City or vios? Mazda 2 way better

cannot keep "topping up" like that la.... otherwise Merc C-class alreadyt.

let me school you a bit:-

1) the spare tire is to reduce weight (save cost partly) but mainly to save weight which is why the new Vios' acceleration speed has increase despite having a little bit less HP and torque;

3) how cacat? 1HP less and 2NM less torque? - elaborate a bit la bang.

everything in life is a compromise and you cannot have it all unless you have enough money to waste (which i believed you do not). you win some, you lose some.

Your head sure hit the roof at the back seat. Small size car sell at yahudi price. Not worth the money

Persona >> City & Vios

skip sajala

either just get new alza or jump straight to hrv/civic/corolla cross etc

Okay u actually pay for Daihatsu rocky and myvi. Daihatsu rocky is still cheap car in japan anyway

New vios majority parts are perodua especially the engine and transmission is exactly myvi model...

It no longer toyota but daihatsu product

becos only mehsian rike Honda

Those taking max year loans really can't afford it and should be concern about FC, Tyres and other maintenance.

Else, if can afford 100K vehicle, shouldn't be too concern about current fuel price and rumours

Thats previous years. Nowdays still problem?

But in reality, it is available here and now.

Am driving a DNGA-B, Myvi engined, DCVT new car almost 30K less than the Vios.

Can't run away from public perception that UMW overpriced its unit.

lmao this fella again..

from that day keep open tered to validate his vios 2023 purchase, but he didnt get what he wanted tered backfired instead.

even though people give valid points why the 2023 vios sucks, but he still will defend kaw2.

so what exactly you want TS? you feeling buyers remorse ka?

ok la vios 2023 very jenggg. mantap bosskur, enjoice your new car je la steady bom pi pi

This post has been edited by Optizorb: Mar 30 2023, 10:22 PM

The argument here isn't about how the new VIOS is better than b4 but it goes back to your big main title of the thread which is "VIOS vs CITY"

So in that sense, you are compromising all the shit just to get the VIOS over City? hahaha, i guess only super hardcord toyota fanboy would do that

for CITY >>
at least i can still get it at below 80k
at least i can still have the option to choose for spare tire
at least the rear seat aren't cacat

so everything in life isn't a compromise but it is a choice

for me,

toyota vios new one is OK. But most people will think you are getting a Myvi for the price of vios just for the brand toyota. The interior is definitely not 100k. Also do note that you are getting DNGA, not TNGA. We all know Europe gets the TNGA B platform for its GR Yaris, which will already be at a price of CBU mazda 3 when it reaches our shore (and people will get Mazda 3 hatch instead)

Honda City looks like a mini Beemer 3 series, the NVH, nobody really care la, I mean, its a freshgrad car for parents who think myvi is a tad too small or not enough future proof or want their children to have a better starter car. Its an all rounder

Mazda 2 is DOA for its price now esp the April 1st revision

Nissan Almera...needless to say la Tan Chong, Jatco and the underwear V shaped front

This post has been edited by Jedi: Apr 1 2023, 11:31 AM

its actually Ativa's steering. btw city got auto hold and electronic handbrake ka?

only rs got

Indonesia version comes with full size spare wheels. UMWT didn't include spare to cut cost.

Hi All,

Honda City 2025 RS full spec vs Toyota G spec...

Any comments?

Both of this car is the bottom of the barrel economic car meant to get you from point A to B, using less than a sip of fuel. Don't expect anything and youd be surprised how economic it can get especially if you have owned a Proton previously.

Anyway, Honda for the engine, it's really good, or toyota generally for everything else. It didn't excel in anything but put together quite nicely, considering again you're buying something in the lowest part of the catalog.

Personally I have a HRV and I really like the engine, it's built right, smooth and powerful. My alphard engine cannot compare in term of smoothness. But everything else alphard wins la of course.