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 Have you experienced alcohol withdrawal?

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GiganticBird
post Mar 20 2023, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(superbike @ Mar 20 2023, 05:44 PM)
aahh i remembered when you talked about your alcohol withdrawal before. glad i never experienced it in person despite i did considered myself a heavy binge drinker but not a daily drinker. i was just a casual drinker but when i do drink, i binge a lot. i do however have an uncle and a friend who drink daily and when they don't have their drink, they would shake violently and seizure.

i did however experience withdrawal from heroin and methamphetamine many times already that while their withdrawal isnt as dangerous as alcohol does, you just wish you die.
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seriously drug like heroin n meth withdrawal experience not as dangerous as alcohol?

btw people who recover from drug like meth must be really strong willed
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post Mar 20 2023, 09:34 PM

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Used to drink everyday except Friday and one time 6 cans at least, highest 15 cans , don't count all those one night mix beer/wine/whisky, it's normal for me.

But I try to drink less on Thursday and let myself has a peaceful Friday , then continue weekend


One fine day I just stop drinking, then one week one can, next week drink more etc


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post Mar 20 2023, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(olay biscuit barrel @ Mar 20 2023, 09:31 PM)
True. This can't be lectured. I stopped because I was hospitalized with acute pancreatitis when I was in college so I had no choice.
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Yeah, I've always thought that first thing to go is liver, cirrhosis then death. But when I got to know someone who drinks a lot instantly died due to pancreatitis, it never crossed my mind.

I have been for medical checkup, they say my liver enzymes are extremely high, other than that all readings are strangely normal.

Its not very often that it happens but since drinking upsets the stomach, I end up vomiting every time I wake up, at first I thought its acid reflux, no surprise there because I have bad stomach due to bad eating habits when younger.

That's until my vomit is greenish yellow, I did not see a doctor about it, but from what I can tell its bile reflux. So yeah, hopefully, eventually I will give up drinking totally.
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post Mar 20 2023, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(mee udang @ Mar 20 2023, 05:37 PM)
As per title, after drinking, do you get hangover or withdrawals?

I'm considered a heavy drinker, so much so that Indians and East Malaysians will consider me crazy.

Although I tried to quit drinking many times but old habits hard to die, least I could do now is to reduce it.

For many years now, I don't get hangover, what I get are withdrawals, and it can be quite scary because its a long list of symptoms and can last for days, if not weeks.

If I can get by first few days, then would be okay but if cannot stand the withdrawals, then drinking relapse to feel normal again. mega_shok.gif
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You sure you heavier than me?

been drinking 500ml long can beer about 4-6 cans per day with mixture of 12% strong.
never skip a day since 5-6 years ago
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post Mar 20 2023, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(AyamBlend @ Mar 20 2023, 09:34 PM)
Used to drink everyday except Friday and one time 6 cans at least, highest 15 cans , don't count all those one night mix beer/wine/whisky, it's normal for me.

But I try to drink less on Thursday and let myself has a peaceful Friday , then continue weekend
One fine day I just stop drinking, then one week one can, next week drink more etc
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I remember during COVID I lost my job, then cannot go out of course. So became very distressed, bought usual box of 24 cans, did not even last me more than 2 days. Same goes for 1 liter of vodka, did not even last more than 2 days.

Thing is about me and drinking, if have to consider quitting, have to totally quit already. I have quit many times but once start even with just one can, it will slowly creep and becomes a routine and back to same problem, become more than just one can eventually.
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post Mar 20 2023, 10:04 PM

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to stop drinking, put away your money
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post Mar 20 2023, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(judie999 @ Mar 20 2023, 09:53 PM)
You sure you heavier than me?

been drinking 500ml long can beer about 4-6 cans per day with mixture of 12% strong.
never skip a day since 5-6 years ago
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12% beer is still acceptable, mine would be 18% beer, 4 cans a day, sometimes can even be 5-6 cans.

I used to say about how much I can drink, barely any issues but since I've had withdrawals, I don't feel its worth it to have that title anymore.
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post Mar 20 2023, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(mee udang @ Mar 20 2023, 10:06 PM)
12% beer is still acceptable, mine would be 18% beer, 4 cans a day, sometimes can even be 5-6 cans.

I used to say about how much I can drink, barely any issues but since I've had withdrawals, I don't feel its worth it to have that title anymore.
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I think 16% right?

Usually my fav is 8% or skol strong 9%. If no stock, then i go for 12%

12% and above taste are awful, cut a slice of lemon and drink. Less smell and can restore some health too

Btw, if you know cheap supplier tell me. I want buy in bulk lolx

Do you have gout btw?


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post Mar 20 2023, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(kevinc @ Mar 20 2023, 10:04 PM)
to stop drinking, put away your money
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Not as simple as that, during COVID I had no job and lesser money as it progresses and I turn to drinking to forget my troubles.

There are news article showing that drinking shoot up during COVID in comparison to before COVID, for obvious reasons.

I don't drink as much as during COVID, but have to put an end to my daily drinking.
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QUOTE(mee udang @ Mar 20 2023, 10:12 PM)
I turn to drinking to forget my troubles.
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my own way of quiting alcohol. stopped beer in 2016, spirits in 2018, wine reduced from 3-4 bottles a week in 2020 to half a bottle a week today, or less. quit one type of alcohol every 2 years. if you have the will, you can do it. good luck
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post Mar 20 2023, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(mee udang @ Mar 20 2023, 05:37 PM)
As per title, after drinking, do you get hangover or withdrawals?

I'm considered a heavy drinker, so much so that Indians and East Malaysians will consider me crazy.

Although I tried to quit drinking many times but old habits hard to die, least I could do now is to reduce it.

For many years now, I don't get hangover, what I get are withdrawals, and it can be quite scary because its a long list of symptoms and can last for days, if not weeks.

If I can get by first few days, then would be okay but if cannot stand the withdrawals, then drinking relapse to feel normal again. mega_shok.gif
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why must write indian? you wanna challenge indian izzit?
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post Mar 20 2023, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(judie999 @ Mar 20 2023, 10:09 PM)
I think 16% right?

Usually my fav is 8% or skol strong 9%. If no stock, then i go for 12%

12% and above taste are awful, cut a slice of lemon and drink. Less smell and can restore some health too

Btw, if you know cheap supplier tell me. I want buy in bulk lolx

Do you have gout btw?
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Not sure if have gout, never checked.

There's 12%, 16% and my usual 18% last time, now no more stock.
https://untappd.com/b/united-dutch-brewerie.../2107589/photos
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Not major supplier but can buy in bulk if you tell you want a lot. This is only one I know left that still sell.
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I've seen some go as high as 19% but really awful stuff, don't think any lemon will help you.

But I usually go for these high % beers because they are so high, its not taxed as beer; more towards liquor so its usually cheaper than 5% beers.

You maybe healthy now, alcohol is harmless at small amounts but its deceptive as you're essentially having a slow death without even realizing.
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post Mar 20 2023, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Mar 20 2023, 10:34 PM)
why must write indian? you wanna challenge indian izzit?
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Because Indian are among the strongest drinkers I know aside from East Malaysians.

I don't want to challenge Indian, I don't need to show I can drink a lot anymore.

FYI, I was talking to an Indian uncle trying to open a bottle of vodka, so I helped him open.

Only in better lighting later I saw his face. Whites of his eyes are yellow, its sign of jaundice, onset to have liver failure. Soon his skin will turn yellow, but hard to tell because of darker skin.

So no, I don't want to challenge.
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post Mar 20 2023, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(GiganticBird @ Mar 20 2023, 09:32 PM)
seriously drug like heroin n meth withdrawal experience not as dangerous as alcohol?

btw people who recover from drug like meth must be really strong willed
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yes they arent since heroin works on mainly endorphins and also dopamine and serotonin while meth works mainly on the dopamine and norepinephrine, to the lesser extent serotonin brain site. alcohol however works on the brain's GABA receptors which regulates your seizure threshold. If you continuously drink alcohol, your brain gets used to the presence of alcohol for downregulation of the brains electricity so without the presence of alcohol, if you stopped suddenly your brain goes into shock and haywire.
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post Mar 20 2023, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(mee udang @ Mar 20 2023, 10:36 PM)
Not sure if have gout, never checked.

There's 12%, 16% and my usual 18% last time, now no more stock.
https://untappd.com/b/united-dutch-brewerie.../2107589/photos
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Not major supplier but can buy in bulk if you tell you want a lot. This is only one I know left that still sell.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


I've seen some go as high as 19% but really awful stuff, don't think any lemon will help you.

But I usually go for these high % beers because they are so high, its not taxed as beer; more towards liquor so its usually cheaper than 5% beers.

You maybe healthy now, alcohol is harmless at small amounts but its deceptive as you're essentially having a slow death without even realizing.
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Gout = Severe leg pain due to uric acid. If youre frequent drinker & have sudden leg pain till can't walk, most likely is gout

That shop is it indian liquor shop? But is a bit too far from my place....

To me 5% also feel no rasa already. But i still stock up 2 carlton of 500ml Thai beer every month for casual drink. For booster, need 9% to achieve my target

So far i bought 500ml can is RM8 . Usually i bought 10 cans and go restock every 2-3 days

For frequent drinker, try drink celery juice & apple cider to combat for healthier. At least can help a bit. Also exercise at least 10 min daily




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post Mar 20 2023, 10:59 PM

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I used to be heavy drinker..now i drink 1 day KO 2 days
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u will stop drinking when your liver about to dead
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post Mar 20 2023, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(judie999 @ Mar 20 2023, 10:55 PM)
Gout = Severe leg pain due to uric acid. If youre frequent drinker & have sudden leg pain till can't walk, most likely is gout

That shop is it indian liquor shop? But is a bit too far from my place....

To me 5% also feel no rasa already. But i still stock up 2 carlton of 500ml Thai beer every month for casual drink. For booster, need 9% to achieve my target

So far i bought 500ml can is RM8 . Usually i bought 10 cans and go restock every 2-3 days

For frequent drinker, try drink celery juice & apple cider to combat for healthier. At least can help  a bit. Also exercise at least 10 min daily
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Think no gout if so, maybe cannot feel it because pain is numbed by alcohol.

Most liquor shops I go to are run by Indians, that shop is my daily port and I know the guy. But it been awhile since I go there nowadays. If you his regular, he can probably sell you RM8/can.

For me, it's already sign that I have to stop drinking completely and currently taking silymarin to heal my liver. Years of abuse already put it in bad shape and I get bruises easily at one point, I checked this is due to liver already not functioning properly, but since it's not end stage, it can still heal over few months.
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QUOTE(GiganticBird @ Mar 20 2023, 09:32 PM)
seriously drug like heroin n meth withdrawal experience not as dangerous as alcohol?

btw people who recover from drug like meth must be really strong willed
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It is possible, but very difficult.

If you're poor, no family or society support, it's very easy to go back because you're surrounded with the same mindset ppl.

It's a never ending cycle.



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