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TSRigerZ
post Mar 18 2023, 09:43 PM, updated 3 months ago

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The advice is everywhere that you should not mix tires of different tread patterns.

But how come there are no demonstrations of the effects of doing so, like those videos that show the difference between new vs worn tires when driving in the wet?
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post Mar 18 2023, 10:11 PM

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Never bothered.

Only thing I could perasan is noise shj.

If u don't drive like a mad man, going above 140km/h, the braking distance also is negligible.

But point no.2 more to do with compound rather than thread pattern.
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post Mar 18 2023, 10:11 PM

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Try driving and pushing your car & tyres to the limit, then you will know why you shouldn't mix.
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post Mar 18 2023, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(DSV4600 @ Mar 18 2023, 10:11 PM)
Try driving and pushing your car & tyres to the limit, then you will know why you shouldn't mix.
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And what about the majority of us who dont do that
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post Mar 18 2023, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Mar 18 2023, 10:55 PM)
And what about the majority of us who dont do that
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Mix at your own risk lo. Only 4 pieces of rubber is touching the road from your vehicle.
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post Mar 18 2023, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(DSV4600 @ Mar 18 2023, 11:02 PM)
Mix at your own risk lo. Only 4 pieces of rubber is touching the road from your vehicle.
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And this is exactly the reason I ask the question:

Why are there no demonstrations showing that this is actually a dangerous practice
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post Mar 19 2023, 05:18 AM

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i mix many times ady. even different rim diammeter also
hi speed just pijak max tak prduli je
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post Mar 20 2023, 10:57 AM

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Front Primacy 3 and rear MC6.. what is the danger?
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post Mar 20 2023, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 19 2023, 05:18 AM)
i mix many times ady. even different rim diammeter also
hi speed just pijak max tak prduli je
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ya hoh.

the performance cars, staggered rim somemore + diff width.
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post Mar 20 2023, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Mar 20 2023, 10:57 AM)
Front Primacy 3 and rear MC6.. what is the danger?
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Mar 20 2023, 11:09 AM)
ya hoh.

the performance cars, staggered rim somemore + diff width.
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true. dont worry
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post Mar 20 2023, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 19 2023, 06:18 AM)
i mix many times ady. even different rim diammeter also
hi speed just pijak max tak prduli je
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If straight road usually not much impact, but if your in high speed doing cornering and some emergency happen in the middle that will be the best time you pray your tires and brake system perform well.. laugh.gif

Usually normal driving condition, mix different tires wont have much impact. But still at least front 2 or rear 2 need to be same.
If all 4 tires different brand or treads, if not mistaken can be saman by JPJ and go for puspakom inspection. (usually will fail brake test as 4 different tires will got different braking distance if different compound)

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post Mar 20 2023, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Mar 18 2023, 09:43 PM)
The advice is everywhere that you should not mix tires of different tread patterns.

But how come there are no demonstrations of the effects of doing so, like those videos that show the difference between new vs worn tires when driving in the wet?
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Believe you need to spend a bit more time searching ...


Why Mixing Expensive Tyres With Cheap Tyres Will Ruin Your Car!





The Reasons You Shouldn't Mix Tires - big No No!



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post Mar 20 2023, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Mar 20 2023, 03:24 PM)
If straight road usually not much impact, but if your in high speed doing cornering and some emergency happen in the middle that will be the best time you pray your tires and brake system perform well..  laugh.gif

Usually normal driving condition, mix different tires wont have much impact. But still at least front 2 or rear 2 need to be same.
If all 4 tires different brand or treads, if not mistaken can be saman by JPJ and go for puspakom inspection. (usually will fail brake test as 4 different tires will got different braking distance if different compound)
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yameh whistling.gif i sudah play all u mentioned liao.
mix front mix back mix left mix right
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post Mar 20 2023, 06:23 PM

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there are drawbacks of course. now my brake pad is super uneven wear level.
gotta fix soon enter sc
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post Mar 20 2023, 06:23 PM

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but grip wise, no big deal man
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post Mar 20 2023, 11:43 PM

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if u are a runner, u can try mixing shoes. wear left cheap bata rm90, while right leg use adidas/nike rm400. the cheap one will bottleneck the expensive one. same goes to tyre. but if u disagree, its fine. we are agree to disagree
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post Mar 21 2023, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 20 2023, 07:23 PM)
there are drawbacks of course. now my brake pad is super uneven wear level.
gotta fix soon enter sc
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The uneven brake pad wear level already a big indication, just as per mentioned before if went for brake test different tires will come out different results. Why i know, as 1 time i forget to change out my spare tire and during puspakom inspection gg brake test. If you see the test report from puspakom they can show you individual tire braking performance which 1 is below par thus why is better to have at least both side or better all 4 the same tires for even braking performance. What i believe if the 1 tire braking performance is worse the brake pad on that tire side will wear even more.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Mar 21 2023, 09:45 AM)
The uneven brake pad wear level already a big indication, just as per mentioned before if went for brake test different tires will come out different results. Why i know, as 1 time i forget to change out my spare tire and during puspakom inspection gg brake test. If you see the test report from puspakom they can show you individual tire braking performance which 1 is below par thus why is better to have at least both side or better all 4 the same tires for even braking performance. What i believe if the 1 tire braking performance is worse the brake pad on that tire side will wear even more.
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after uneven wear. they become balaced la
hahaha. wont be an issue at first until im back to normal setup (four same tyre). baru jadi trouble
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post Mar 21 2023, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(Jeyanj @ Mar 20 2023, 03:45 PM)
Believe you need to spend a bit more time searching ...
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QUOTE(DM52 @ Mar 20 2023, 11:43 PM)
if u are a runner, u can try mixing shoes. wear left cheap bata rm90, while right leg use adidas/nike rm400. the cheap one will bottleneck the expensive one. same goes to tyre. but if u disagree, its fine. we are agree to disagree
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Please re-read my question properly ya
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post Mar 22 2023, 08:58 AM

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Last time my car has 4 different brand of tyre at the same time. No issue also. Drive like normal only.
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post Mar 23 2023, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 20 2023, 06:23 PM)
but grip wise, no big deal man
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depends on your car and the crappy tire that you chose.

Relatively similar tire won't yield drastic result.

My saga blm mix Silverstone m3 pair with good year assurance.

Where the m3 is, I can control whether the car will understeer or oversteer during rain. Put in front you get understeer, put behind you get oversteer.

But if you are familiar with your car, you would feel the difference. Even the difference of rotating tires and not rotating tiresfeels different for me during turns.


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post Mar 25 2023, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Mar 20 2023, 10:57 AM)
Front Primacy 3 and rear MC6.. what is the danger?
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oversteer

if terbalik better right? understeer better than oversteer
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post Mar 25 2023, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(square2 @ Mar 25 2023, 12:39 PM)
oversteer

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tried, tested, proven?
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post Mar 25 2023, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Mar 25 2023, 02:59 PM)
tried, tested, proven?
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i kena before but using different set of tires

front ps3, back cc5

karak highway. it was near bukit tinggi side. lucky there was no car nearby else GG already
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post Mar 25 2023, 03:24 PM

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As long as they are balanced on the left and right, no big deal.

Example: two front wheels using sliverstone, and two rear wheels using goodyear.
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post Mar 25 2023, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(square2 @ Mar 25 2023, 12:39 PM)
oversteer

if terbalik better right? understeer better than oversteer
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Michelin is not known for oversteer
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post Mar 25 2023, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Mar 25 2023, 03:57 PM)
Michelin is not known for oversteer
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oversteer is because back tire can't handle grip, not the front one. in your case, your back tire is continental.

when driving as a front driver, it's more on the front tire that gives feedback to you, not the back ones.
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post Mar 25 2023, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(square2 @ Mar 25 2023, 04:20 PM)
oversteer is because back tire can't handle grip, not the front one. in your case, your back tire is continental.

when driving as a front driver, it's more on the front tire that gives feedback to you, not the back ones.
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Honestly speaking, I had more confidence in Continental tyres when it comes to pushing the limit. Had PS3 before with this car and then Primacy 3. These would just understeer like crazy. I got the used MC6 after the back tires (primacy) got some cuts and kept leaking. Using MC6 on the back feels so solid with its stiffer sidewall compared to Primacy 3.
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QUOTE(tctham @ Mar 23 2023, 11:45 PM)
depends on your car and the crappy tire that you chose.

Relatively similar tire won't yield drastic result.

My saga blm mix Silverstone m3 pair with good year assurance.

Where the m3 is, I can control whether the car will understeer or oversteer during rain. Put in front you get understeer, put behind you get oversteer.

But if you are familiar with your car, you would feel the difference. Even the difference of rotating tires and not rotating tiresfeels different for me during turns.
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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Mar 25 2023, 02:59 PM)
tried, tested, proven?
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Tried tested proven.

With tires with mismatching grip, you will definitely induce understeer or oversteer. I oversteered while driving from ldp to sunway hospital, those turns near Taylor lakeside entrance.
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post Mar 25 2023, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(tctham @ Mar 25 2023, 08:46 PM)
Tried tested proven.

With tires with mismatching grip, you will definitely induce understeer or oversteer. I oversteered while driving from ldp to sunway hospital, those turns near Taylor lakeside entrance.
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I'm going to have to take your words with a pinch of salt since we dont know the full facts and details regarding your incident
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post Mar 26 2023, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Mar 25 2023, 09:25 PM)
I'm going to have to take your words with a pinch of salt since we dont know the full facts and details regarding your incident
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Yes, your mileage may vary. It seems that you already have your conclusion that it does not make any difference. Are you waiting for someone to reaffirm your belief? Because it doesn't feel like you are neutral and seeking for user experiences, despite what others have said already.

 

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