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TShellothere131495
post Mar 9 2023, 12:37 PM, updated 3y ago

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Okay engineers here. I am recently interested to become a PE. Just applied Graduate Engineer after long time got my degree cert.

Now, I heard there are two ways for malaysian: One is through BEM, another is through IEM.

Both of them require you to work 3 years, in which 1 year need a supervisor/mentor to guide you.

After that, if you follow BEM path, you need to sit for PAE. If you follow IEM path, you need to sit for PI and upgrade to corporate member of IEM.

Then, baru you can apply for Professional Engineer.

I right or wrong? Is my understanding correct? If yes, why would people go for the IEM path? You need to pay for the IEM member fee again. Why not just follow BEM path, no need to pay for membership?

Another question, if follow BEM path, what should I do? As graduate engineer, i just simply find a mentor and ask him guide me for 1 year? Then after 3 years, I simply contact BEM for sitting PAE?
TrialGone
post Mar 9 2023, 12:56 PM

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Errrrr actually PE is through BEM regardless. IEM is to facilitate the process of becoming PE much easier. Think iem like driving school to getting ur driving license. JPJ (like BEM) only issue the license.

Iem helps to arrange for PI, set course to fulfill the course requirement etc. They also arrange seminar/talks/site visit to collect cpd points to maintain ur PE. U can obtain cpd without joining but it be much harder and expensive for non member.
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post Mar 9 2023, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Mar 9 2023, 12:56 PM)
Errrrr actually PE is through BEM regardless. IEM is to facilitate the process of becoming PE much easier. Think iem like driving school to getting ur driving license. JPJ (like BEM) only issue the license.

Iem helps to arrange for PI, set course to fulfill the course requirement etc. They also arrange seminar/talks/site visit to collect cpd points to maintain ur PE. U can obtain cpd without joining but it be much harder and expensive for non member.
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Okay thanks. So, using the IEM path to become PE is better because after that, it's easier to maintain the PE status through IEM activities.
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post Mar 9 2023, 01:01 PM

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actually nobody uses the title Ir in front of their name unless theyre one of those professor datuk dr Ir those kind of ppl

whats the point of getting it btw

i see my uncle has it , but he is in management, so whats the point of being an Ir...

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post Mar 9 2023, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Mar 9 2023, 01:01 PM)
actually nobody uses the title Ir in front of their name unless theyre one of those professor datuk dr Ir those kind of ppl

whats the point of getting it btw

i see my uncle has it , but he is in management, so whats the point of being an Ir...
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You can charge PE chops lots of moneh
Let other kuli anjing liar do the actual engineering job

Your job is only chop your name on a piece of paper easily 20k per month
grimreaper05
post Mar 9 2023, 01:22 PM

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waste time waste money waste energy
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post Mar 9 2023, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Mar 9 2023, 01:19 PM)
You can charge PE chops lots of moneh
Let other kuli anjing liar do the actual engineering job

Your job is only chop your name on a piece of paper easily 20k per month
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lol misleading
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post Mar 9 2023, 01:24 PM

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probably only worth it if you're aiming to have your own construction/consultation company
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post Mar 9 2023, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Mar 9 2023, 01:01 PM)
actually nobody uses the title Ir in front of their name unless theyre one of those professor datuk dr Ir those kind of ppl

whats the point of getting it btw

i see my uncle has it , but he is in management, so whats the point of being an Ir...
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same, im mech eng, but my role now more to management d, IR is useless for me, after i naik asst. manager i feel like IR kinda useless, whether a not get IR can increase salary i dunno

if u wanna follow the IR path, i guess future more secure?? haha, since u can authorize drawings and such, but if any F up happen, ur head on the block la brows.gif
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post Mar 9 2023, 01:35 PM

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Ir only useful if you work in Consulting firm, ie CSA Ir,
Then you can chop the drawing and get fee, but remember the chop lasted a lifetime ya. So it is not simply chop here and there goyang lampa get 20k. You need check and verify the drawings.
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post Mar 9 2023, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Mar 9 2023, 01:01 PM)
actually nobody uses the title Ir in front of their name unless theyre one of those professor datuk dr Ir those kind of ppl

whats the point of getting it btw

i see my uncle has it , but he is in management, so whats the point of being an Ir...
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bcos u r in malaysia with a high power distance culture

so must put Ir Ts. Dr Tan Sri Dato Datuk in front of name

whereas my colleagues in UK call each other by first name even though they have titles in front
msacras
post Mar 9 2023, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Mar 9 2023, 01:19 PM)
You can charge PE chops lots of moneh
Let other kuli anjing liar do the actual engineering job

Your job is only chop your name on a piece of paper easily 20k per month
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It’s 1.5k per chop.

So if you can consistently chop everyday.

Easily 30k yoh
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post Mar 9 2023, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Mar 9 2023, 01:01 PM)
actually nobody uses the title Ir in front of their name unless theyre one of those professor datuk dr Ir those kind of ppl

whats the point of getting it btw

i see my uncle has it , but he is in management, so whats the point of being an Ir...
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I have it. I am in senior management.
It is a recognition of engineering ability. So in meeting clients and authorities, your ideas and comments carry some weight. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 9 2023, 01:39 PM

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post Mar 9 2023, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Mar 9 2023, 01:19 PM)
You can charge PE chops lots of moneh
Let other kuli anjing liar do the actual engineering job

Your job is only chop your name on a piece of paper easily 20k per month
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Got so easy meh


QUOTE(daisuke @ Mar 9 2023, 01:27 PM)
same, im mech eng, but my role now more to management d, IR is useless for me, after i naik asst. manager i feel like IR kinda useless, whether a not get IR can increase salary i dunno

if u wanna follow the IR path, i guess future more secure?? haha, since u can authorize drawings and such, but if any F up happen, ur head on the block la brows.gif
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In marehsia got people get charged for screwups meh
Never seen before.

QUOTE(Blofeld @ Mar 9 2023, 01:35 PM)
bcos u r in malaysia with a high power distance culture

so must put Ir Ts. Dr Tan Sri Dato Datuk in front of name

whereas my colleagues in UK call each other by first name even though they have titles in front
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Yea my uncle also never ask people address him as Ir. His name card is just his name ... No title.

Another aunt is Dato' but almost forget she's Dato' because she so humble. But she rich is true la. Hahah.
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post Mar 9 2023, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Mar 9 2023, 01:19 PM)
You can charge PE chops lots of moneh
Let other kuli anjing liar do the actual engineering job

Your job is only chop your name on a piece of paper easily 20k per month
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Yeah right its easy like certified scaffholder but things you sign failed or collapse prepare masuk penjara because you its certified by you
TrialGone
post Mar 9 2023, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Mar 9 2023, 01:01 PM)
actually nobody uses the title Ir in front of their name unless theyre one of those professor datuk dr Ir those kind of ppl

whats the point of getting it btw

i see my uncle has it , but he is in management, so whats the point of being an Ir...
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IR still means ur uncle did the projects, have technical experience, went through courses, sat for PI and passes. Basically more credible than someone claiming datuk know how to design piping system. If I'm the client I will choose ur uncle over some randos with mere PM title.

Also after I got IR, I get like tons of pipu viewing my LinkedIn profile that I force to disable notification.

This post has been edited by TrialGone: Mar 9 2023, 02:22 PM
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post Mar 9 2023, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 9 2023, 01:38 PM)
I have it. I am in senior management.
It is a recognition of engineering ability. So in meeting clients and authorities, your ideas and comments carry some weight.  biggrin.gif
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This. It really helps to shut some idiots who make random nonsense comments on engineering matters.
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post Mar 9 2023, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Mar 9 2023, 02:28 PM)
This. It really helps to shut some idiots who make random nonsense comments on engineering matters.
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Yes. It helps coupled with my 40 years of work experience. Especially with expats.

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