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post Feb 21 2023, 05:42 PM, updated 3y ago

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A G30 Pre LCI 530e is going for less than RM160,000.

Seems like a great bargain to me. Of course, the reason's pretty obvious .. it's cause of the hybrid engine.

But the way I see it, if you were to change all 6 battery modules for around RM30k plus, that'd come to around RM200k which is still pretty acceptable for an otherwise decent car

Any thoughts on this guys?
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post Feb 21 2023, 05:46 PM

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Would never go 5 feet near one without bsri warranty or recond. 330e similar fate


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post Feb 21 2023, 06:01 PM

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post Feb 21 2023, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(clature @ Feb 21 2023, 05:42 PM)
A G30 Pre LCI 530e is going for less than RM160,000.

Seems like a great bargain to me. Of course, the reason's pretty obvious .. it's cause of the hybrid engine.

But the way I see it, if you were to change all 6 battery modules for around RM30k plus, that'd come to around RM200k which is still pretty acceptable for an otherwise decent car

Any thoughts on this guys?
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Low ball some more. Dont worry about the hybrid feature, get the engine condition back tip-top.
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post Feb 21 2023, 09:18 PM

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Hybrid cars cannot turn off auto stop when car is stationary. Can be a nuisance in tropical country when air cond cuts off almost completely in traffic jam/ lights

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post Feb 21 2023, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(clature @ Feb 21 2023, 05:42 PM)

But the way I see it, if you were to change all 6 battery modules for around RM30k plus.

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just buy bro. yolo. and its quite impossible the module damage in same time. maybe need change few not all in one shot.

Yes. bmw is still bmw. so lovely to drive.
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post Feb 22 2023, 10:15 AM

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do it. cash in on everybody's fear with hybrid. you did the maths, it works out.
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post Feb 22 2023, 11:14 AM

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If i were you, i will check the car service history first like where the service is done, any claim records... If this car got few big claim case before like within 2~3 years time, good luck and be prepare of the repair cost as it might happen again within the next 2~3 years.
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post Feb 22 2023, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 22 2023, 11:14 AM)
If i were you, i will check the car service history first like where the service is done, any claim records... If this car got few big claim case before like within 2~3 years time, good luck and be prepare of the repair cost as it might happen again within the next 2~3 years.
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The best thing is, these prices are by BMW Premium Selection so I think the service history probably checks out. And they usually offer an additional 1 year warranty.
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post Feb 22 2023, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(hungrygodzilla @ Feb 22 2023, 10:15 AM)
do it. cash in on everybody's fear with hybrid. you did the maths, it works out.
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Exactly man .... cash in on everyone's fear with hybrids. Couldn't put it better myself
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post Feb 22 2023, 11:52 AM

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Hybrid cars has been around for many many years already. anyone having issues with batteries, cars more than 5 years?
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post Feb 22 2023, 02:24 PM

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compared to 530i, it is floating abit although it is heavier than 530i
during corner, you can feel 530e butt is flying off
other than that i think it is a good car, esp for those who do lot of >10KM drive.

the batt.... so far i didn't hear any of my friends complaint about their F30 330e
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post Feb 22 2023, 02:35 PM

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I think the hybrid battery is least of your concerns. There are many other components in a hybrid car that can go wrong and are expensive to fix.
KLE charging board for instance. Also, there are more errors on startup due to Aux battery, 12V battery, etc. Sometimes cannot drive have to tow to SC.
Need to ensure that you charge and keep the battery within acceptable state of charge range so that it will not cause problems due to low battery.

Overall can be a good deal but also can be problematic. I was looking at the F10 330e and 530e but after test driving them, I feel the non-hybrid versions feel much better. Don't really know why but there is no oomph compared to say the F30 328i pre-LCI.

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post Feb 22 2023, 02:40 PM

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lagi jackpot if previous owner bought the extended warranty!
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post Feb 22 2023, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(clature @ Feb 22 2023, 11:46 AM)
The best thing is, these prices are by BMW Premium Selection so I think the service history probably checks out. And they usually offer an additional 1 year warranty.
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But do your research also la, join the facebook group, check the forum.
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post Feb 23 2023, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(hungrygodzilla @ Feb 22 2023, 06:34 PM)
But do your research also la, join the facebook group, check the forum.
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Yes, people sell or trade in fast/early usually there is "some thing" trigger them, either the car, owner or other reason.
I knew few business/rich owners and they do keep cars which is over 10 years if it is good, for them their mindset is if the new car keep sitting/going in/out of SC, doing a lot of warranty claims or fix what do you think it will be good after warranty ends? Most of them don't like the hassle, even they do have multiple cars on hand and they don't like to waste money or time on a particular car too much unless they really like it.

FYI, this group of people i knew mostly sworn never buy hybrid cars again.. biggrin.gif Now they only go for pure EV or normal combustion engine. All mostly regretted and sold off most of their hybrids from BMW, Merc to Volvo. Only 1 hybrid being the exception is the Toyota/Lexus Hybrid system, seems that is the only 1 less issue and got more affordable aftermarket parts (halfcut) to fix nowadays.

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post Feb 23 2023, 10:02 AM

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Since it's 2018, probably owner trades in before the 5 year warranty expires but then, modern BMWs tend to fall apart just after 5 years. It does seem like a good bargain. Make sure to check thoroughly and look at the service records. I had a few BMWs that had major issues just after the 5 year mark.
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post Feb 23 2023, 10:56 AM

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probably can check if the battery warranty is 8 years. If i recall, the normal warranty is up to 5 years and specific for hybrid system up to 8 years....if 8 years of batt coverage...can consider...

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post Feb 23 2023, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(billy08 @ Feb 22 2023, 11:52 AM)
Hybrid cars has been around for many many years already. anyone having issues with batteries, cars more than 5 years?
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not many Hybrid car more than 5 years on the road nowadays. Prius & prius C last time everywhere you go you will see at least 1-2...


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post Feb 23 2023, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(melt @ Feb 23 2023, 11:07 AM)
not many Hybrid car more than 5 years on the road nowadays. Prius & prius C last time everywhere you go you will see at least 1-2...
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Yes thats true also. I think I only see Prius C and not Prius on Malaysian roads here in Klang Valley. Why is that? Is it because of problems and replacing the battery is not an option due to cost?
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post Feb 23 2023, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 23 2023, 09:54 AM)
Yes, people sell or trade in fast/early usually there is "some thing" trigger them, either the car, owner or other reason. 
I knew few business/rich owners and they are do keep cars which is over 10 years if it is good, for them their mindset is if the new car keep sitting/going in/out of SC, doing a lot of warranty claims or fix what do you think it will be good after warranty ends? Most of them don't like the hassle, even they do have multiple cars on hand and they don't like to waste money or time on a particular car too much unless they really like it.

FYI, this group of people i knew mostly sworn never buy hybrid cars again..  biggrin.gif Now they only go for pure EV or normal combustion engine. All mostly regretted and sold off most of their hybrids from BMW, Merc to Volvo. Only 1 hybrid being the exception is the Toyota/Lexus Hybrid system, seems that is the only 1 less issue and got more affordable aftermarket parts (halfcut) to fix nowadays.
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I've got a friend who's probably the opposite. He's got a 330e that he's really modified kau2 over the course of last year. Sometimes I'd see him turn up in the 330e. Some times he'd be driving a different car. When asked, he'd casually just say his Bimmer's in the workshop. Never heard him complain though. For him, he said it's part and parcel of owning a hybrid car. To quote him ... 'I bought the car fully aware of what I was getting myself into. There's really no point complaining. It's like marrying a high maintenance woman and then complaining about her. Then why did you marry her in the first place?'

He loves his 330e to bits though. I guess it's about managing expectations.
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post Feb 23 2023, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(clature @ Feb 23 2023, 04:27 PM)
I've got a friend who's probably the opposite. He's got a 330e that he's really modified kau2 over the course of last year. Sometimes I'd see him turn up in the 330e. Some times he'd be driving a different car. When asked, he'd casually just say his Bimmer's in the workshop. Never heard him complain though. For him, he said it's part and parcel of owning a hybrid car. To quote him ... 'I bought the car fully aware of what I was getting myself into. There's really no point complaining. It's like marrying a high maintenance woman and then complaining about her. Then why did you marry her in the first place?'

He loves his 330e to bits though. I guess it's about managing expectations.
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That why i mentioned about the "unless they really like it." If you can spend the money and expect more time going in & out mechanic shop or SC than you are good to go.

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post Feb 23 2023, 11:03 PM

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Go drive it. If YOU like it, then buy it. It’s a bargain.

I would take a depreciated BMW PHEV over the engine equivalent cause you get more car for your money. Just need to check service history and if the battery has the 8 years warranty then you’re good.

QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Feb 21 2023, 09:18 PM)
Hybrid cars cannot turn off auto stop when car is stationary. Can be a nuisance in tropical country when air cond cuts off almost completely in traffic jam/ lights
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You talking from your ass? The BMW PHEVs can.

And PHEV air con don’t cut off. TS talking about BMW PHEV, BMW don’t have any hybrids like Toyota.

People like you just go around spew bullshit on something you know nothing about.
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post Feb 24 2023, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Feb 23 2023, 11:03 PM)
Go drive it. If YOU like it, then buy it. It’s a bargain.

I would take a depreciated BMW PHEV over the engine equivalent cause you get more car for your money. Just need to check service history and if the battery has the 8 years warranty then you’re good.
You talking from your ass? The BMW PHEVs can.

And PHEV air con don’t cut off. TS talking about BMW PHEV, BMW don’t have any hybrids like Toyota.

People like you just go around spew bullshit on something you know nothing about.
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Well…it’s a forum. Opinions are given. Up to individuals…if you think auto stop works for you.
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post Feb 24 2023, 09:12 AM

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Well, go to Auzrin fb page and search for a post yesterday night. Someone post in behalf of "How Mr. Yong destroys his BMW 330e hybrid batteries for the sake of research" and read it.

If not mistaken Mr. Wengyew Yong from BMW 330e club Malaysia shared the info

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post Feb 24 2023, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(billy08 @ Feb 23 2023, 03:00 PM)
Yes thats true also. I think I only see Prius C and not Prius on Malaysian roads here in Klang Valley. Why is that? Is it because of problems and replacing the battery is not an option due to cost?
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last time to fix the battery it cost a bomb but nowadays some below 5k can be done.

my friend did have a prius c last time but towards the end of the warranty period there is an issue where UMW cant fix it. I cant recall what the issue but the car was in the workshop for almost half a year after repaired it was fine for awhile and then back to workshop again. In the end he sold it after waited for another half a year.

most malaysian buy car with good resale value so hybrid car are not one of them. Really have no idea the main reason why we dont see them anymore.


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post Feb 24 2023, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 24 2023, 09:12 AM)
Well, go to Auzrin fb page and search for a post yesterday night. Someone post in behalf of "How Mr. Yong destroys his BMW 330e hybrid batteries for the sake of research" and read it.

If not mistaken Mr. Wengyew Yong from BMW 330e club Malaysia shared the info
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This guy's report is a compelling read. A bit over the top with the technical jargon if you ask me. But I totally salute and thank him for doing this.

His conclusion is the same as what any smartphone manufacturer would recommend ... keep the battery charged between 20%-80%. Which kinda makes sense cause he charged his to 100% every single day and that destroyed all his battery cells. This also checks out with earlier complaints on the forum from those who didn't bother charging at all and needed battery replacements much sooner. Those guys probably had the battery below 20% most of the time
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post Feb 24 2023, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(melt @ Feb 24 2023, 09:13 AM)
last time to fix the battery it cost a bomb but nowadays some below 5k can be done.

my friend did have a prius c last time but towards the end of the warranty period there is an issue where UMW cant fix it. I cant recall what the issue but the car was in the workshop for almost half a year after repaired it was fine for awhile and then back to workshop again. In the end he sold it after waited for another half a year.

most malaysian buy car with good resale value so hybrid car are not one of them. Really have no idea the main reason why we dont see them anymore.
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Yes, I guess it is a supply and demand issue. If there are more EV cars sold, then the price will slowly start to come down. But your kawan prius-c waited for 6-months for repair.. wah low eh, how to tahan without a car for 6 months. lucky under warranty, if after warranty pengsan terus..

 

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