QUOTE(phantomash @ Feb 3 2023, 02:33 AM)
Isn't that obvious? From the very 1st viral. Photo of menu, nothing mentioned on vegetarian food served to him. Selective presentation
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QUOTE(phantomash @ Feb 3 2023, 02:33 AM) Isn't that obvious? From the very 1st viral. Photo of menu, nothing mentioned on vegetarian food served to him. Selective presentation This post has been edited by jojolicia: Feb 3 2023, 08:11 AM |
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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Feb 3 2023, 07:57 AM) So there are no proof? Your butt say cannot? U and HP guy mmg sameThere are plenty of halal restaurant in uk, they still go kfc macdonald? And sarawak? Wasting saje duduk MY Simple thing also bodo Ask me to put Quran verse Mmg stupid to the maxx This post has been edited by darkLapland: Feb 3 2023, 08:14 AM |
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QUOTE(darkLapland @ Feb 3 2023, 08:02 AM) U and HP guy mmg same Agama sendiri pun tak fasih? Wasting saje duduk MY Simple thing also bodo Ask me to put Quran verse Mmg stupid to the maxx Takde dalam quran cakap haram, kalau boleh elakkan. Kalau tak boleh elak tak haram. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...rkR-29I7CNeUDsu This post has been edited by wanted111who: Feb 3 2023, 01:08 PM |
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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Feb 3 2023, 12:47 AM) Is it written in the quran? Many muslim study in japan.many more study in uk, us etc. Yes.Macdonald and kfc at those country got serve bacon. Is it halal or haram? Dont talk so far, let say sarawak. Many muslim eat at restaurant serving babi, is it dosa? Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “I do not find in what has been revealed to me anything forbidden to eat except carrion, running blood, swine—which is impure—or a sinful offering in the name of any other than Allah. But if someone is compelled by necessity—neither driven by desire nor exceeding immediate need—then surely your Lord is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Quran 6:145) Why are you questioning pork is haram or not? |
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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Feb 3 2023, 01:07 PM) Agama sendiri pun tak fasih? Really sohaiTakde dalam quran cakap haram, kalau boleh elakkan. Kalau tak boleh elak tak haram. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...rkR-29I7CNeUDsu No wonder HP can make those mistake Mmg wujud sohai like u in MY Or u are the HP Partner manager Manyak langsi |
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Feb 3 2023, 01:21 PM) Yes. Im not questioning about eating babi is haram. Im questioning about eating vegetarian food in a non halal restaurant which also serving pork, is it haram? In quran any verse saying this?Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “I do not find in what has been revealed to me anything forbidden to eat except carrion, running blood, swine—which is impure—or a sinful offering in the name of any other than Allah. But if someone is compelled by necessity—neither driven by desire nor exceeding immediate need—then surely your Lord is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Quran 6:145) Why are you questioning pork is haram or not? Because many said ultensil used to cook pork cannot be use to cook food for muslim , is it haram to eat vegetarian food prepare from the same ultensil that was used to cook pork? Is it stated anywhere in the quran? QUOTE(darkLapland @ Feb 3 2023, 03:06 PM) Really sohai Tak tau nak berbahas guna fakta, otak kurang cerdas, cuma tau personal attack. Biarlah pembaca nilai eh siapa sohai?No wonder HP can make those mistake Mmg wujud sohai like u in MY Or u are the HP Partner manager Manyak langsi |
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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Feb 3 2023, 07:20 PM) Im not questioning about eating babi is haram. Im questioning about eating vegetarian food in a non halal restaurant which also serving pork, is it haram? In quran any verse saying this? U keep asking stupid questionBecause many said ultensil used to cook pork cannot be use to cook food for muslim , is it haram to eat vegetarian food prepare from the same ultensil that was used to cook pork? Is it stated anywhere in the quran? Tak tau nak berbahas guna fakta, otak kurang cerdas, cuma tau personal attack. Biarlah pembaca nilai eh siapa sohai? Ofcos ler kene The answer is Haaaaarooommmmmmmmmmm |
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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Feb 3 2023, 12:20 PM) Im not questioning about eating babi is haram. Im questioning about eating vegetarian food in a non halal restaurant which also serving pork, is it haram? In quran any verse saying this? Yes, unless it’s washed first.Because many said ultensil used to cook pork cannot be use to cook food for muslim , is it haram to eat vegetarian food prepare from the same ultensil that was used to cook pork? Is it stated anywhere in the quran? Tak tau nak berbahas guna fakta, otak kurang cerdas, cuma tau personal attack. Biarlah pembaca nilai eh siapa sohai? “The cleansing of the utensil belonging to one of you, after it has been licked by a dog, is to wash it seven times, and using soil for cleaning for the first time.” Sahih Muslim (279) Because the category of pork and dog is najs mughallazah, so it has to be washed like that first before it can be used to cook halal dish. |
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Feb 3 2023, 07:27 PM) Yes, unless it’s washed first. So it is not haram correct? Same ultensil can be use as long it is cleaned and the food is halal, in this case vegetarian is confirm halal coz vegetarian contain no meat is true and no vegetable is haram is also true.“The cleansing of the utensil belonging to one of you, after it has been licked by a dog, is to wash it seven times, and using soil for cleaning for the first time.” Sahih Muslim (279) Because the category of pork and dog is najs mughallazah, so it has to be washed like that first before it can be used to cook halal dish. Ada puak sini cakap tu haram macam orang yang reply i kat atas tu, pandai pandai buntut dia cakap haram. Tak pergi kaji selidik. Agama sendiri tak tau. This post has been edited by wanted111who: Feb 3 2023, 07:32 PM |
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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Feb 3 2023, 12:29 PM) So it is not haram correct? Same ultensil can be use as long it is cleaned and the food is halal, in this case vegetarian is confirm halal coz vegetarian contain no meat is true and no vegetable is haram is also true. How sure are you that those utensils are cleaned as prescribed? This is not just put in sink settle like that.Ada puak sini cakap tu haram macam orang yang reply i kat atas tu, pandai pandai buntut dia cakap haram. Tak pergi kaji selidik. Agama sendiri tak tau. In Islam, the concept of syubhah is there. If you cannot know for sure and the evidence points to haram, then you have to avoid as in all likelihood it’s haram. |
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Feb 3 2023, 07:43 PM) How sure are you that those utensils are cleaned as prescribed? This is not just put in sink settle like that. And how sure are we the ultensil isnt clean? Didnt quran have verse saying if we dont know then it is not haram?In Islam, the concept of syubhah is there. If you cannot know for sure and the evidence points to haram, then you have to avoid as in all likelihood it’s haram. Like you said anyone can avoid, but at same time it is not haram. He knew the venue is non halal restaurant, he choose to go but it isnt haram. And the food that was arrange to him isnt haram as well. Anyway islam was practice differently here. Muslim in pakistan, sarawak, indonesia, uk, usa, australia practice theirs differently, they going kfc and macdonald that serve bacon or going to restaurant without halal certificate. |
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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Feb 3 2023, 07:54 PM) And how sure are we the ultensil isnt clean? My own personal view.. I may get criticism but if I know that shop sells pork, of course I'll avoid as best as I can even if serve vegetarian. But if I go to a non muslim friends house.. I just eat if they serve me non pork food. I don't fikir sampai utensil tu tak cuci suci etc. Anyway islam was practice differently here. Muslim in pakistan, sarawak, indonesia, uk, usa, australia practice theirs differently, they going kfc and macdonald that serve bacon or going to restaurant without halal certificate. Jgn kecam saya..oh wai!! This post has been edited by grumpydrive: Feb 3 2023, 09:40 PM |
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