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jojolicia
post Feb 3 2023, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(phantomash @ Feb 3 2023, 02:33 AM)
its made up to be as sensitive as possible baru boleh entitlement ma.
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Isn't that obvious?
From the very 1st viral. Photo of menu, nothing mentioned on vegetarian food served to him. Selective presentation

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wanted111who
post Feb 3 2023, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(darkLapland @ Feb 3 2023, 07:53 AM)
U know nothing dont simply claim lah
Non-muslim country they might have difficulty finding halal

MY easy access to halal food
Simply suke hati said muslim will suka2 hati go makan babi shop.
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You show the verse from quran dont chibai here.
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post Feb 3 2023, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Feb 3 2023, 07:54 AM)
You show the verse from quran dont chibai here.
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You the stupid one
Better dont chibai here


wanted111who
post Feb 3 2023, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(darkLapland @ Feb 3 2023, 07:56 AM)
You the stupid one
Better dont chibai here
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So there are no proof? Your butt say cannot?

There are plenty of halal restaurant in uk, they still go kfc macdonald?

And sarawak?

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SUSdarkLapland
post Feb 3 2023, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Feb 3 2023, 07:57 AM)
So there are no proof? Your butt say cannot?

There are plenty of halal restaurant in uk, they still go kfc macdonald?

And sarawak?
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U and HP guy mmg same
Wasting saje duduk MY

Simple thing also bodo
Ask me to put Quran verse

Mmg stupid to the maxx

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wanted111who
post Feb 3 2023, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(darkLapland @ Feb 3 2023, 08:02 AM)
U and HP guy mmg same
Wasting saje duduk MY

Simple thing also bodo
Ask me to put Quran verse

Mmg stupid to the maxx
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Agama sendiri pun tak fasih?

Takde dalam quran cakap haram, kalau boleh elakkan. Kalau tak boleh elak tak haram.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...rkR-29I7CNeUDsu

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KineticKill
post Feb 3 2023, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Feb 3 2023, 12:47 AM)
Is it written in the quran? Many muslim study in japan.many more study in uk, us etc.

Macdonald and kfc at those country got serve bacon. Is it halal or haram?

Dont talk so far, let say sarawak. Many muslim eat at restaurant serving babi, is it dosa?
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Yes.

Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “I do not find in what has been revealed to me anything forbidden to eat except carrion, running blood, swine—which is impure—or a sinful offering in the name of any other than Allah. But if someone is compelled by necessity—neither driven by desire nor exceeding immediate need—then surely your Lord is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Quran 6:145)

Why are you questioning pork is haram or not?
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post Feb 3 2023, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Feb 3 2023, 07:51 AM)
Is he a active PAS member/leader?
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Sek kito / kelantanese obviously PiS member lah
SUSdarkLapland
post Feb 3 2023, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Feb 3 2023, 01:07 PM)
Agama sendiri pun tak fasih?

Takde dalam quran cakap haram, kalau boleh elakkan. Kalau tak boleh elak tak haram.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...rkR-29I7CNeUDsu
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Really sohai

No wonder HP can make those mistake
Mmg wujud sohai like u in MY

Or u are the HP Partner manager
Manyak langsi
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post Feb 3 2023, 04:38 PM

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post Feb 3 2023, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Feb 3 2023, 01:21 PM)
Yes.

Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “I do not find in what has been revealed to me anything forbidden to eat except carrion, running blood, swine—which is impure—or a sinful offering in the name of any other than Allah. But if someone is compelled by necessity—neither driven by desire nor exceeding immediate need—then surely your Lord is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Quran 6:145)

Why are you questioning pork is haram or not?
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Im not questioning about eating babi is haram. Im questioning about eating vegetarian food in a non halal restaurant which also serving pork, is it haram? In quran any verse saying this?

Because many said ultensil used to cook pork cannot be use to cook food for muslim , is it haram to eat vegetarian food prepare from the same ultensil that was used to cook pork?

Is it stated anywhere in the quran?


QUOTE(darkLapland @ Feb 3 2023, 03:06 PM)
Really sohai

No wonder HP can make those mistake
Mmg wujud sohai like u in MY

Or u are the HP Partner manager
Manyak langsi
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Tak tau nak berbahas guna fakta, otak kurang cerdas, cuma tau personal attack. Biarlah pembaca nilai eh siapa sohai?
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post Feb 3 2023, 07:23 PM

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post Feb 3 2023, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Feb 3 2023, 07:20 PM)
Im not questioning about eating babi is haram. Im questioning about eating vegetarian food in a non halal restaurant which also serving pork, is it haram? In quran any verse saying this?

Because many said ultensil used to cook pork cannot be use to cook food for muslim , is it haram to eat vegetarian food prepare from the same ultensil that was used to cook pork?

Is it stated anywhere in the quran?
Tak tau nak berbahas guna fakta, otak kurang cerdas, cuma tau personal attack. Biarlah pembaca nilai eh siapa sohai?
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U keep asking stupid question
Ofcos ler kene

The answer is Haaaaarooommmmmmmmmmm


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post Feb 3 2023, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Feb 3 2023, 12:20 PM)
Im not questioning about eating babi is haram. Im questioning about eating vegetarian food in a non halal restaurant which also serving pork, is it haram? In quran any verse saying this?

Because many said ultensil used to cook pork cannot be use to cook food for muslim , is it haram to eat vegetarian food prepare from the same ultensil that was used to cook pork?

Is it stated anywhere in the quran?
Tak tau nak berbahas guna fakta, otak kurang cerdas, cuma tau personal attack. Biarlah pembaca nilai eh siapa sohai?
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Yes, unless it’s washed first.

“The cleansing of the utensil belonging to one of you, after it has been licked by a dog, is to wash it seven times, and using soil for cleaning for the first time.”

Sahih Muslim (279)

Because the category of pork and dog is najs mughallazah, so it has to be washed like that first before it can be used to cook halal dish.
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QUOTE(darkLapland @ Feb 3 2023, 07:23 PM)
U keep asking stupid question
Ofcos ler kene

The answer is Haaaaarooommmmmmmmmmm
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Faktanya mana? Ke kau cakap haram then haram? Halal then halal? Orang kena ikut cakap kau? Macam penungang lah ko ni.
wanted111who
post Feb 3 2023, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Feb 3 2023, 07:27 PM)
Yes, unless it’s washed first.

“The cleansing of the utensil belonging to one of you, after it has been licked by a dog, is to wash it seven times, and using soil for cleaning for the first time.”

Sahih Muslim (279)

Because the category of pork and dog is najs mughallazah, so it has to be washed like that first before it can be used to cook halal dish.
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So it is not haram correct? Same ultensil can be use as long it is cleaned and the food is halal, in this case vegetarian is confirm halal coz vegetarian contain no meat is true and no vegetable is haram is also true.

Ada puak sini cakap tu haram macam orang yang reply i kat atas tu, pandai pandai buntut dia cakap haram. Tak pergi kaji selidik. Agama sendiri tak tau.

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KineticKill
post Feb 3 2023, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Feb 3 2023, 12:29 PM)
So it is not haram correct? Same ultensil can be use as long it is cleaned and the food is halal, in this case vegetarian is confirm halal coz vegetarian contain no meat is true and no vegetable is haram is also true.

Ada puak sini cakap tu haram macam orang yang reply i kat atas tu, pandai pandai buntut dia cakap haram. Tak pergi kaji selidik. Agama sendiri tak tau.
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How sure are you that those utensils are cleaned as prescribed? This is not just put in sink settle like that.

In Islam, the concept of syubhah is there. If you cannot know for sure and the evidence points to haram, then you have to avoid as in all likelihood it’s haram.
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Feb 3 2023, 07:43 PM)
How sure are you that those utensils are cleaned as prescribed? This is not just put in sink settle like that.

In Islam, the concept of syubhah is there. If you cannot know for sure and the evidence points to haram, then you have to avoid as in all likelihood it’s haram.
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And how sure are we the ultensil isnt clean? Didnt quran have verse saying if we dont know then it is not haram?

Like you said anyone can avoid, but at same time it is not haram. He knew the venue is non halal restaurant, he choose to go but it isnt haram. And the food that was arrange to him isnt haram as well.

Anyway islam was practice differently here. Muslim in pakistan, sarawak, indonesia, uk, usa, australia practice theirs differently, they going kfc and macdonald that serve bacon or going to restaurant without halal certificate.
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post Feb 3 2023, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Feb 3 2023, 07:54 PM)
And how sure are we the ultensil isnt clean? 
Anyway islam was practice differently here. Muslim in pakistan, sarawak, indonesia, uk, usa, australia practice theirs differently, they going kfc and macdonald that serve bacon or going to restaurant without halal certificate.
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My own personal view.. I may get criticism but if I know that shop sells pork, of course I'll avoid as best as I can even if serve vegetarian. But if I go to a non muslim friends house.. I just eat if they serve me non pork food. I don't fikir sampai utensil tu tak cuci suci etc.

Jgn kecam saya..oh wai!!

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QUOTE(coyouth @ Feb 2 2023, 12:34 AM)
i bet even noble house kl makes more than that noob's sales of 1.5 million.  tongue.gif
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Does it bring any significant positive monetary contribution to HP?

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