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post Jan 22 2023, 03:27 AM, updated 3y ago

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Honours

Premiership (13): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013
Division One Champions (7): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
Division Two Champions (2): 1936, 1975

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (3): 1968, 1999, 2008
UEFA Europa League (1): 2017
European Cup-Winners' Cup (1): 1991
European Super Cup (1): 1991

FA Charity/Community Shield (21 (17 outright, 4 shared)): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2016 (* = joint holders)
FA Cup Winners (12): 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004, 2016
League Cup/Carabao Cup Winners (6): 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2017, 2023

Toyota Inter-Continental Cup Winners (1): 1999
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Managers

A. H. Albut [1892 - 1900]
James West [1900 - September 1903]
Ernest Magnall [10 October 1903 - 9 September 1912]
T. J. Wallworth [9 September 1912 - 20 October 1912]
John Bentley [28 October 1912 - 28 December 1914]
John Robson [28 December 1914 - 31 October 1921]
John Chapman [31 October 1921 - 8 October 1926]
Clarence Hildrith [8 October 1926 - 13 April 1927]
Herbert Bamlett [13 April 1927 - 9 November 1931]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1931 - 13 July 1932]
Scott Duncan [13 July 1932 - 7 November 1937]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1937 - 15 February 1945]
Matt Busby [1 October 1945 - 11 June 1969]
Jimmy Murphy [February 1958 - June 1958]
Wilf McGuinness [11 June 1969 - 29 December 1970]
Matt Busby [29 December 1970 - 8 June 1971]
Frank O'Farrell [8 June 1971 - 19 December 1972]
Tommy Docherty [22 December 1972 - 4 July 1977]
Dave Sexton [14 July 1977 - 29 April 1981]
Ron Atkinson [9 June 1981 - 6 November 1986]
Sir Alex Ferguson [6 November 1986 - 30 June 2013]
David Moyes [01 July 2013 - 22 April 2014]
Ryan Giggs *Caretaker* [22 April 2014 - 18 May 2014]
Louis van Gaal [July 2014 - 23 May 2016]
Jose Mourinho [27 May 2016 - 18 December 2018]
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer [19 December 2018* - 21 November 2021] *Note: Appointed officially on 28 March 2019
Michael Carrick *Caretaker* [21 November 2021 - 02 December 2021]
Ralf Rangnick *Interim* [03 December 2021 - 22 May 2022]
Erik ten Hag [23 May 2022 - Current]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manch..._and_statistics

Record Home Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Home Defeat: 1-7 v Newcastle United, 10/09/1927 [Division 1]

Record Away Win: 8-1 v Nottingham Forest, 06/02/1999
Record Away Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record League Win: 10-1 v Wolves, 15/10/1892 (Division 1)
Record League Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Premier League Win: 9-0 v Ipswich Town, 04/03/1995
Record Premier League Defeat: 0-5 v Newcastle United, 20/10/1996 | 0-5 v Chelsea, 03/10/1999 | 1–6 v Manchester City, 23 October 2011

Record FA Cup Win: 8-0 v Yeovil Town, 12/02/1949
Record FA Cup Defeat: 1-7 v Burnley, 13/02/1901 [1st Round]

Record European Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record European Defeat: 0-5 v Sporting, 18/03/1964 [Cup Winners' Cup QF]

Record Champions League Win: 7-1 v Roma, 10/04/2007 [UCL QF, 2nd leg]

Record Home Attendance (At Old Trafford): 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record League Appearances: 672 (555 Start, 117 Sub) Ryan Giggs 1990 - 06 May 2014 v Hull City [963 (802 Start, 161 Sub) overall]

Record League Goalscorer: 199 [in 606 league appearances] Sir Bobby Charlton 1956-1973

Record Overall Goalscorer: 253 [in 559 appearances] Wayne Rooney 2004-09 July 2017

Record Transfer Fee Received: 80,000,000 pounds for Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid (July 2009)

Record Transfer Fee Paid: 89,000,000 pounds for Paul Pogba from Juventus (August 2016)


As the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 18 times in their history. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup 4 times, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

Manchester United Club Info

Old Trafford

Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
Main Telephone: 0161 868 8000

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM)
Hope Alien will sticky this info later.
Though written in 2006 so no Roy Keane yet.

Ex-United players that have moved on to become managers.

Written by Simon Stone (MARCH 22, 2006)

STEVE BRUCE (1987-1996): Took his first steps in management with Sheffield United in 1998, then swiftly moved on to Huddersfield, Wigan and Crystal Palace. Left Selhurst Park in acrimonious fashion after Birmingham targeted him as the replacement for Trevor Francis in 1991. Took Blues into the Premier League but after a heavy FA Cup defeat is struggling to keep his job.

MARTIN POWELL (1971-1983): Stylish and well-respected Scotland centre-half whose authoritative nature appeared to make him a natural for the management game. Lasted four months at Burnley.

SIR BOBBY CHARLTON (1956-1973): Arguably the finest English player of all time proved to be an unmitigated disaster as a manager. Claimed he was not given the resources to make a decent job of it at Preston but was never lured back into management following his departure after a single season.

STEVE COPPELL (1975-1983): After a knee injury cut his playing career short at just 28, Coppell turned his attention to management. Steered Crystal Palace into the FA Cup final and then third place in the old First Division - the Eagles' highest ever - the following season. It was the first of four stints in charge at Selhurst Park in a career which has seen him move to Manchester City (for only six games), Brentford and Brighton. Now at Reading and about to steer the Royals into the top flight for the first time.

PADDY CRERAND (1962-1971): A key figure in United's 1968 European Cup triumph, Crerand lasted five months at Northampton before getting the bullet and, like Charlton, never managed again.

MARK HUGHES (1983-86, 1988-95): Hughes was never tipped as a manager by Ferguson but has taken to the game with ease. Took Wales into the Euro 2004 play-offs. Took over at Blackburn shortly afterwards, steering Rovers away from danger in his first season. Currently in contention for a Champions League spot.

BRIAN KIDD (1967-1974): Another European Cup winner who proved to be a poor manager. Got itchy feet in 1998 after spending seven years as Sir Alex Ferguson's highly-rated assistant. Took command at Blackburn but dismissed six months later.

BRYAN ROBSON (1981-94): United's inspirational leader under Ron Atkinson and Ferguson. There are two schools of thought on his stint at Middlesbrough - he either spent lots and achieved little (relegation and two losing finals) or he laid the platform for the Teessiders to become an established Premiership outfit. Kept West Brom up in extraordinary fashion last year but back in trouble again this season.

GORDON STRACHAN (1984-89): Scotland international who won the FA Cup with United and the title of the pre-Premiership era with Leeds. Sacked after five years at when the Sky Blues lost top-flight status, then enjoyed success at Southampton - reaching the 2003 Cup final - before resigning to spend more time with his family. Now at Celtic, has recovered from a humiliating Champions League exit to Artmedia Bratislava, and, after winning his first trophy on Sunday in the CIS Insurance Cup, is set to clinch the Scottish Premier League.

NOBBY STILES (1960-71): Along with Charlton, one of only two Englishmen to have won the World Cup and European Cup, he replaced his former England and United team-mate at Preston, with limited success. After a brief stint in Vancouver, returned to England to take over as manager of West Brom. Sacked after five months, having gained just three wins.
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post Jan 22 2023, 03:30 AM

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Jan 22 2023, 01:42 AM)


The starting lineup combination become more and more limited.
Not good as opponent is easier to predict us.
The more worrying is injury list will become longer ...
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Jan 22 2023, 03:26 AM)
Crystal Palace basically make 3th and 4th place team dropping points.
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post Jan 22 2023, 06:59 AM

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15 more hours to go πŸ‘πŸΌ
both team are on their best form.
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post Jan 22 2023, 09:41 AM

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We get to enjoy a PL game during CNY.
Hope some of you will have the opportunity to get more of the family watching United.

More importantly to the regulars and everyone here, Happy Chinese New Year! May new owners bring us more prosperity and a bigger transfer budget.
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Happy chor2 or pissed off chor2? Jeng jeng jeng
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post Jan 22 2023, 11:06 AM

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Seems no one is talking about the rumors of Harry Kane to Man Utd. Perhaps, we are just tired of Gareth Bale's story, or Frank Ribery's laugh.gif

Harry Kane is currently 29 years old. The same age, when Robbie Van Persie joined our club - the last striker that we can rely on to score a goal, consistently.

When Wout Weghorst joins us on loan, I read the comment from EtH:

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' He’s a goalscorer definitely but also a type who will work for the team, who is a really good pressing player in defending, so he can contribute [there] as well.'

Aside from being a goalscorer, Kane has good defending stats, too, compared to other strikers.

Kane has nowhere to go if Spurs failed to qualify Champions League next season, at least, if he still wants to play in England. Early this season, City got Haaland, Liverpool with Nunez, and Arsenal with Jesus.

What about Chelsea? Compared to them, Man Utd in the present moment is in a better position where we are higher ranked in the Premier League, higher possibility of playing the Champions League next season, and also, Chelsea is the Spurs' London rival.

With the possibility of Spurs not playing Champions League, combined with an expiring contract in June 2024, Spurs has no choice but to win any trophy to convince Kane to renew the contract. If they fail to do that, they may resort to selling Kane, even for a discounted price.

The only question left is - does EtH want him?



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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 22 2023, 10:52 AM)
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I would like to think of it this way. We have had an exceptional run of results. We are firmly in the top 4, which is an incredible achievement with this squad at the start of the season expectations.

So even if we lose, celebrate that we have beaten City and are in the Top 4. Even better, it means Arsenal have a higher chance of winning the League ahead of City. We don't want City to win the League.

So whatever the result, we have a reason to be happy!

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post Jan 22 2023, 11:43 AM

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confident to get at least a point biggrin.gif gogogo
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post Jan 22 2023, 03:07 PM

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Draw good result

Lost expected but don’t lost so much

Win is a bonus
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post Jan 22 2023, 11:16 PM

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Gotta humble the gunners!
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post Jan 22 2023, 11:31 PM

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With Mc Tom, I felt Maguire in CB

Our strength is for sure is defence without Casemiro the midfield will weaken

My prediction is that United going to play long ball, no short pass
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QUOTE(DarkWan @ Jan 22 2023, 11:06 AM)
Seems no one is talking about the rumors of Harry Kane to Man Utd. Perhaps, we are just tired of Gareth Bale's story, or Frank Ribery's laugh.gif

Harry Kane is currently 29 years old. The same age, when Robbie Van Persie joined our club - the last striker that we can rely on to score a goal, consistently.

When Wout Weghorst joins us on loan, I read the comment from EtH:
Aside from being a goalscorer, Kane has good defending stats, too, compared to other strikers.

Kane has nowhere to go if Spurs failed to qualify Champions League next season, at least, if he still wants to play in England. Early this season, City got Haaland, Liverpool with Nunez, and Arsenal with Jesus.

What about Chelsea? Compared to them, Man Utd in the present moment is in a better position where we are higher ranked in the Premier League, higher possibility of playing the Champions League next season, and also, Chelsea is the Spurs' London rival.

With the possibility of Spurs not playing Champions League, combined with an expiring contract in June 2024, Spurs has no choice but to win any trophy to convince Kane to renew the contract. If they fail to do that, they may resort to selling Kane, even for a discounted price.

The only question left is - does EtH want him?
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Kane will be similar like Van Persie. Might be our missing puzzle to win the league next season, but will be a signing effective for 2 seasons, maximum 3
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Haaland how many hatricks d. No cut his supply line, then goals galore
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post Jan 23 2023, 12:46 AM

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DDG is playing with fire several times already
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Rashford!!!
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post Jan 23 2023, 12:54 AM

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bocor so fast .. can DDG / ETH just kick the goal kick high upfield or not ...zzz
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post Jan 23 2023, 12:57 AM

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i blame the goal kick tactic ...

this is how we conceded cheap goals during our 1st 2 games
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post Jan 23 2023, 12:57 AM

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2 consecutive error by AWB.
But out mid is non existence, can’t found options as McTom keep making himself unavailable for passes
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Mctom is poor. Only follow where the ball go blindly. Don't even think ahead.
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Super goal by Rashford. We give a really cheap goal away.

Everytime we build from back, hati berdebar
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now we're behind
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post Jan 23 2023, 01:43 AM

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Eriksen don’t have a partner to play. Very bad mid

Weghorst not suited to the play… maybe yet.

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Saka > rashford

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Header like that also can
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garnacho has to come on for weghorst
Moving rashy to mid, not much option on the bench

McTom ooo McTom….

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that was pathetic and pointless passing sequence for the free kick

you have a target man (sort of) upfront so utilise him

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Weghorst is like meguire 2.0
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What a game
Attack vs counter
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jan 23 2023, 02:10 AM)
What a game
Attack vs counter
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If only we have Casemiro and martial
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Consequences of keep defending...lol
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Can't rely on counters forever
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now only wan make atk sub lol


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VAR did not even check the line


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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jan 23 2023, 02:22 AM)
now only wan make atk sub lol
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Super weird. Super super weird.
5 points lost….over 2 important matches
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Antony and weghorst piss poor
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come on its obvious we fail to push for the 2nd ball .. and no 3rd man available everytime we gets the ball.. they deserved to win this..

just move on
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Meh. There goes our faint title hopes. Arsenal syok lo. Even fans didn't hope can challenge title this season.

Awb caught dreaming in 2 goals. Werghost while not bad, just doesn't seems to have the cutting edge.

Fred is worst. Bring him to have solid def. Always bocor. Against cp also like that
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Jan 23 2023, 02:25 AM)
VAR did not even check the line
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I think the first pass to the wide seems off
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Cheh, title contender also need work so hard.. 3 seasons of gelling vs us half season gelling... Luckily stll got 19 match to go
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 23 2023, 02:28 AM)
I think the first pass to the wide seems off
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Theyy purposely not show the replay with the VAR line
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QUOTE(areankim @ Jan 23 2023, 02:25 AM)
Super weird. Super super weird.
5 points lost….over 2 important matches
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Well deserved lost. Their hunger to win is far stronger than us. If draw, I would say a point gained.

Should try new tactic with garnacho as starting 11. Not always impact sub.
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Good match.

I think another season under ETH, Utd can challenge for the title.

This season, realistically, getting 3rd position can consider as overachieving given how disarray the team was in the beginning when compared to now.

On to the next match. We shall see if Arsenal are just pretenders for the next 18 matches
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Spin master is a waste of space. Our right wing is cursed
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So fucking annoyed larh, ETH fully to be blamed for this result. Why did he not make changes earlier, only after conceding then bring on Garnacho for Varane.... so annoyed with that. That game was there for the taking, if he wanted to just go for a 2-2, bring on another CB, i just dont understand.

Why Weghorst was on the pitch for the whole game, god knows, why Eriksen was also on for that long, who knows. McTominay was so poor.

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jan 23 2023, 02:47 AM)
So fucking annoyed larh, ETH fully to be blamed for this result. Why did he not make changes earlier, only after conceding then bring on Garnacho for Varane.... so annoyed with that. That game was there for the taking, if he wanted to just go for a 2-2, bring on another CB, i just dont understand.

Why Weghorst was on the pitch for the whole game, god knows, why Eriksen was also on for that long, who knows. McTominay was so poor.
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Cheh, title contender also need work so hard.. 3 seasons of gelling vs us half season gelling... Luckily stll got 19 match to go
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so manu still considered title contender or not?
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Man City much harder than arsenal but United players lack of focus for full 90 minutes

With Casemiro I do think the result will be different

We miss dearly Dalot,Martial and Casemiro
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Jan 23 2023, 02:59 AM)
Man City much harder than arsenal but United players lack of focus for full 90 minutes

With Casemiro I do think the result will be different

We miss dearly Dalot,Martial and Casemiro
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We never said we are... Lol... Arsenal pls dun collapse half way... I can laugh u guys forever... 😁
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Well deserved lost. Their hunger to win is far stronger than us. If draw, I would say a point gained.

Should try new tactic with garnacho as starting 11. Not always impact sub.
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I dont think we are not hungry for win... But the fatigue taken up in second half... You can see rashy cant even do alot of sprints anymore... And shaw obviously tired, erikssen too...

Of course strategies were wrong too with Antony and werghorst in the game for far too long...
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jan 23 2023, 02:54 AM)
We dont play like champions (i dont believe Arsenal do as well) but until it is mathematically proven that we cant be in the race, we have an outside chance. Either way, we dont play like champs.
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Man City much harder than arsenal but United players lack of focus for full 90 minutes

With Casemiro I do think the result will be different

We miss dearly Dalot,Martial and Casemiro
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Narrow loss. Its okay. Not like we got smashed or anything, last minute winner. We will learn and move on. We are never title contenders this season, don't forget this season is a rebuild for us and Top 4 is a good achievement if we get it.

If there was any team I prefer to lose to it is Arsenal right now so I'm sending my congratulations to their fans. If Arsenal loses the PL title to City with the lead they have, you can expect a lot of banter going there.

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I prefer city win the title. Arsenal fans auto jadi big headed bila menang. They are slightly below Liverpool fans πŸ˜‚

Anyway i like the progress shown by the club. Cant wait for next season 😊
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I think we are in right direction.
Hopefully the club selling will successful, and new owner will invest like Boehly.

Lots of praises toward AWB recently, but it is once again prove he is the best as 2nd choice.
Imagine if Antony doesn't help him in defending so much, his weaknesses will keep being exposed.

Eriksen, old issue. Not enough stamina for 90 mins.
But it is not his fault man.
Rmb he is with heart issue? He is already a fighter to keep playing as a sport athletc.
He is also the player with most assists in the team, we definitely need him, but with a regular sub who can replace him directly in 60th ~ 70th mins.

Fred? Both of them not even same playing style.
Again, the best choice we have now is Zidane.
I know his physical is not enough, but not even 5~10 mins each in 2 games in a week?
The importance is development.
I personally is quite little disappointed toward ETH in this part.

Squad depth issue, Martial keep injured, Sancho with phycological issue, what to do.
Tbh, compared to pool and Chelsea, we are already considered good.
Again, hopefully club selling successful, new owner invest.
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QUOTE(damnself @ Jan 23 2023, 09:04 AM)
I prefer city win the title. Arsenal fans auto jadi big headed bila menang. They are slightly below Liverpool fans πŸ˜‚

Anyway i like the progress shown by the club. Cant wait for next season 😊
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Btw, it is 7 days before transfer windows closing.
The chance we are getting new player, is 0.01%.

I think ETH already accepted that, adjusted himself and starting to pick 1 youngster and develop regularly.
Omitting Elanga, as he is so disappointed this season.

The point is develop + regularly.
Fans choice is obviously Zidand and Pellistri.
His choice seems to be Mainoo, as he is more physical ready.

Yet, he is lacking wow performance so far, which Zidane already did in pre-season and Pellistri already did in Charlton match.
Hopefully ETH is right, as we really lack of no.10, and Mainoo is an AM.
Even though me myself prefer Zidand the most.

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Arsenal is destine to be champion this season

1. Consistent
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4. Score a lot of half chance goals
5. Luck

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18 matches, is still long way to go.

In 2011-2012 season, Utd were like 9 points ahead to City. But the team squandered the lead, until the last match, when Aguerooooo scored the winning goal.

If the Sengal fans think they already won, I'd savour every drip of their tears at the end of the season when they implode like they usually do such as the season when Leicester won the league, as that season the other clubs were in shit form except them, yet they still loss the plot.
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The title is Arsenal's to lose and I wish them all the best this season. No one wanna see oil money winning the league again

The premier league need to restore the balance of power

Our title challenge hype lasted less than 2 weeks lol

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QUOTE(tontolou @ Jan 23 2023, 12:02 PM)
18 matches, is still long way to go.

In 2011-2012 season, Utd were like 9 points ahead to City. But the team squandered the lead, until the last match, when Aguerooooo scored the winning goal.

If the Sengal fans think they already won, I'd savour every drip of their tears at the end of the season when they implode like they usually do such as the season when Leicester won the league, as that season the other clubs were in shit form except them, yet they still loss the plot.
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Arsenal is destine to be champion this season

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Wait 2/3 of the season done first... They have been handed very favourable schedule this season... If only they reschedule the man city arsenal match when we fought Cp... Then the sunday results maybe very different...
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jan 23 2023, 11:33 AM)
Arsenal is destine to be champion this season

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5. Luck
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They still have 2 tough matches vs MC, and 3-4 others facing Liv, Chelsea, Newcastle

MC still have chances to close the gap
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QUOTE(MrBlackie33 @ Jan 23 2023, 02:40 PM)
They still have 2 tough matches vs MC, and 3-4 others facing Liv, Chelsea, Newcastle

MC still have chances to close the gap
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Liverpool and Chelsea currently facing injury problems, but I expect them to come back strong second half of the season

Newcastle is a tough team, well organised team with them playing as a team. Howie so far is better than Potter
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tough luck. awb missing his man, then putting him onside later on. aih
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Without casemiro, we kena bolos 3 goals. This is daily affair pre casemiro.

Arsenal still need fight City twice. Title race not over yet
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Been too busy with work.. watch matches but no time to post here..

Noticed that United playing like a Jose team nowadays.. park the bus.. ball over the top, run from behind.. hit on the counter..
Hanging on 1-0 lead.. not proactively looking for the killing blow.. only reacted when opponents equalized..

Under Jose back then they called it cowardice football.. under ETH they call it progress.. same stuff different marketing..

Interceptions and successful presses is good.. similar like Ole first season..
Only one game showed control, dominate and dictate of the game so far imo.. against Spurs..

Signings.. 14 players out replaced with 7 last summer.. more than 1mil per week saved.. the manager said publicly the squad is full and good..
January window so far, one player out and one player in.. saved 456k per week.. Glazers must be happy..

The manager haven't said publicly the club not backing him.. so i take the rumors that the board dont back him as speculation..

Anyway looking forward to February 26, should be the day United 5 years trophyless run ended.. GGMU
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tough luck. awb missing his man, then putting him onside later on. aih
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He did very well nullifying martinelli already... Cannot everything also blame him lol... Midfield without a world class cdm reli alot of difference... Technical wise... This is why the non injured partey revitalize arsenal bolos ing midfield... Mctom is no where near there... And erikssen, susah... He is playing at his limit with his mechanical heart... 3 matches he also starting first 11
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jan 23 2023, 06:14 PM)
Been too busy with work.. watch matches but no time to post here..

Noticed that United playing like a Jose team nowadays.. park the bus.. ball over the top, run from behind.. hit on the counter..
Hanging on 1-0 lead.. not proactively looking for the killing blow.. only reacted when opponents equalized..

Under Jose back then they called it cowardice football.. under ETH they call it progress.. same stuff different marketing..

Interceptions and successful presses is good.. similar like Ole first season..
Only one game showed control, dominate and dictate of the game so far imo.. against Spurs..

Signings.. 14 players out replaced with 7 last summer.. more than 1mil per week saved.. the manager said publicly the squad is full and good..
January window so far, one player out and one player in.. saved 456k per week.. Glazers must be happy..

The manager haven't said publicly the club not backing him.. so i take the rumors that the board dont back him as speculation..

Anyway looking forward to February 26, should be the day United 5 years trophyless run ended.. GGMU
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Lol half a season park the bus and u compare against jomo time... we have been playing counter attacking football almost all our life... how to change within 6 mths ? When we won cups with park the bus strategy... We also celebrated his achievement... But his park the bus strategy nt working subsequently make us ended up at no.10...

But anyhow... Plsss middle eastern billionaire come for us... Damn all the bizman money... Unless we get an owner like tedd boehly
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Lol half a season park the bus and u compare against jomo time... we have been playing counter attacking football almost all our life... how to change within 6 mths ? When we won cups with park the bus strategy... We also celebrated his achievement... But his park the bus strategy nt working subsequently make us ended up at no.10...

But anyhow... Plsss middle eastern billionaire come for us... Damn all the bizman money... Unless we get an owner like tedd boehly
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I'm just saying it like how i see it and pointing out the double standards form the media and OT fans..

I do not know how to change the way team play within 6 months.. but Eddie Howe did it at Newcastle.. so it is not impossible as people alluded to..

Cowardice football, as long as end up with trophies, all is good.. Jose did it and won 2 cups.. that should be the benchmark..

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He will end up like shearer, won nothing despite scoring alot of goals every season πŸ˜…
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Shearer won PL with Blackburn, and came close with Newcastle but didnt win much with them but its his boyhood club so it is what it is. Either way, we need to stop looking at these 30 year old attackers larh, time to go for younger STs.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 24 2023, 01:32 AM)
Lol half a season park the bus and u compare against jomo time... we have been playing counter attacking football almost all our life... how to change within 6 mths ? When we won cups with park the bus strategy... We also celebrated his achievement... But his park the bus strategy nt working subsequently make us ended up at no.10...

But anyhow... Plsss middle eastern billionaire come for us... Damn all the bizman money... Unless we get an owner like tedd boehly
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We need an owner that makes this a passion project rather than treating it as a business. So i dont care where the owner is from.
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As a personal opinion, I don't think it is completely accurate to say we are playing counter attacking football or even labelling it cowardice football. We are only as strong as our squad capabilities.

Start if the season, yes. The last 10 games minus the Arsenal game, I would prefer the word 'control'. We play a controlled game. We have control of the midfield nd the limiting of opposition chances before they materialise. We see less of our CBs making highlight reel tackles because there is no need to. We have a CDM in Casemiro who controls the flow and snuffs out chances early.

The Arsenal game was always going to be different. We are playing away from home. We are playing the most in form team in the League who are also the League leaders. We are playing without our most vital midfield player in Casemiro. And we lost only to a last minute goal. Playing open against Arsenal would be almost suicide with a midfield of McFred.

In half a season, I do see tactical progress towards a more controlled style play. And no, the Board has let the manager down and if we get Top 4, it is in spite of the Board and not because.

So for me.....

Progress : Yes. Tactical and team wise.
Manager : Big yes. ETH is exceeded my expectations at the half season mark.
Team : Still has holes in the squad to resolve. We need another midfielder badly and fullback cover.
Club Management : Still shit. Poor scouting, poor negotiation. Owners are crap. And yes club management has a big impact on a club, see Liverpool. Klopp is a World class manager and they are only in their position because club hasn't backed the manager and rejuvenated the midfield. Instead plonking 100m on Nunez and calling it a day.
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if can qualify for ucl more than enough for first season under eth
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This is not about simply giving playing time for fringe players anymore.
It is a must to rest at least half of the lineup team against Nottingham.
All of them is too tired.

Further more, EFL semi final is 2 legs.
Even lost, have 2nd leg at home to turn things around.

Casemiro can play, since he rested against Arsenal.
Malacia, Garnacho, Fred must replace Shaw, Rashford, Eriksen.
Other positions, Ten Hag really need to make a choice.

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I'm just saying it like how i see it and pointing out the double standards form the media and OT fans..

I do not know how to change the way team play within 6 months.. but Eddie Howe did it at Newcastle.. so it is not impossible as people alluded to..

Cowardice football, as long as end up with trophies, all is good.. Jose did it and won 2 cups.. that should be the benchmark..
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They are just playing like they used to be with stronger defending tactics... They aint playing the beautiful football that everyone wants... But for me as long as the manager willing to change things accordingly, thats cool enough... Park the bus as long as can win something... Anything that can get 3 pts will do...
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This is not about simply giving playing time for fringe players anymore.
It is a must to rest at least half of the lineup team against Nottingham.
All of them is too tired.

Further more, EFL semi final is 2 legs.
Even lost, have 2nd leg at home to turn things around.

Casemiro can play, since he rested against Arsenal.
Malacia, Garnacho, Fred must replace Shaw, Rashford, Eriksen.
Other positions, Ten Hag really need to make a choice.
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Nottingham away sapu them first then at home defending the lead... Reading match can put our second team for all we want... we need to rest alot players for europa matches
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As a personal opinion, I don't think it is completely accurate to say we are playing counter attacking football or even labelling it cowardice football. We are only as strong as our squad capabilities.

Start if the season, yes. The last 10 games minus the Arsenal game, I would prefer the word 'control'. We play a controlled game. We have control of the midfield nd the limiting of opposition chances before they materialise. We see less of our CBs making highlight reel tackles because there is no need to. We have a CDM in Casemiro who controls the flow and snuffs out chances early.

The Arsenal game was always going to be different. We are playing away from home. We are playing the most in form team in the League who are also the League leaders. We are playing without our most vital midfield player in Casemiro. And we lost only to a last minute goal. Playing open against Arsenal would be almost suicide with a midfield of McFred.

In half a season, I do see tactical progress towards a more controlled style play. And no, the Board has let the manager down and if we get Top 4, it is in spite of the Board and not because.

So for me.....

Progress : Yes. Tactical and team wise.
Manager : Big yes. ETH is exceeded my expectations at the half season mark.
Team : Still has holes in the squad to resolve. We need another midfielder badly and fullback cover.
Club Management : Still shit. Poor scouting, poor negotiation. Owners are crap. And yes club management has a big impact on a club, see Liverpool. Klopp is a World class manager and they are only in their position because club hasn't backed the manager and rejuvenated the midfield. Instead plonking 100m on Nunez and calling it a day.
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Interesting take
But to me I call it as is - shit is shit especially with Fred & McTikTok
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Considering how things stand, I'd throw the FA Cup with a reserve side to focus on the League Cup. Getting a trophy in the first ETH season will provide such a massive confidence boost.

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Interesting take
But to me I call it as is - shit is shit especially with Fred & McTikTok
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Happy to dive deeper into it if you want to. Shit is always in comparison to something else. Are you referring to the McFred pairing as shit? Or the team progress to date is shit?

I can't remember the last time I was this positive as a United fan even after a League loss. But I take my blessings whenever I find them now after the past 10 years.
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Progress is winning trophies.. United are suffering the worst trophy drought ever, in 40 years..
The longer this goes on, the further winning tradition and mentality fading away..



This counter should be on reset this coming Feb 26..

Minimum of one trophy per season must be reinstated as soon as possible..
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Considering how things stand, I'd throw the FA Cup with a reserve side to focus on the League Cup. Getting a trophy in the first ETH season will provide such a massive confidence boost.
Happy to dive deeper into it if you want to. Shit is always in comparison to something else. Are you referring to the McFred pairing as shit? Or the team progress to date is shit?

I can't remember the last time I was this positive as a United fan even after a League loss. But I take my blessings whenever I find them now after the past 10 years.
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The McFred incl AWB - the rest I can still live with
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The McFred incl AWB - the rest I can still live with
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Ah, to fix this requires Boehly levels of investment to refresh the squad.
Our current owners do not want to invest any more.

If these owners stick around, our DOF might just offer Fred a new contract to save money on bringing in a new midfielder. And perhaps…..just perhaps…..the legendary Phil Jones gets another 5 year contract.
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I think we did quite well considering how good arsenal is this season. They did not really dominate the game until like last the 15 mins or so.
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This is not about simply giving playing time for fringe players anymore.
It is a must to rest at least half of the lineup team against Nottingham.
All of them is too tired.

Further more, EFL semi final is 2 legs.
Even lost, have 2nd leg at home to turn things around.

Casemiro can play, since he rested against Arsenal.
Malacia, Garnacho, Fred must replace Shaw, Rashford, Eriksen.
Other positions, Ten Hag really need to make a choice.
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United
Season 22/23
20 games: 39 points
Season 21/22
20 games: 37 points
Season 20/21
20 games: 40 points

So far minimal point progressions with better players.. same stuff different marketing..

Arsenal
Season 22/23
19 games: 50 points
Season 21/22
19 games: 35 points
Season 20/21
19 games: 27 points

Newcastle
Season 22/23
20 games: 39 points
Season 21/22
20 games: 11 points
Season 20/21
20 games: 19 points

Newcastle point progression so far is highly impressive.. and they are low key about it..
From a relegation battler last season to 3rd spot as of now..
Eddie Howe are doing it with the likes of Joe Willock, Fabian Schaar, Joelinton, Jamal Lewis and Sean Longstaff..
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Jan 24 2023, 08:53 PM)
I think we did quite well considering how good arsenal is this season. They did not really dominate the game until like last the 15 mins or so.
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Yea thats because we werent pinning the fullbacks back with Garnacho or Pellestri, thats why Zinchenko can be so far forward to be involved in the goal. I am annoyed that we didnt try to go for the win.
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Domino effect?
Son will leave?
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Domino effect?
Son will leave?
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Domino effect?
Son will leave?
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This guy cant even lick a boot for son... Lol... Anyhow why they need so many wingers... Lol
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jan 23 2023, 03:19 PM)
tough luck. awb missing his man, then putting him onside later on. aih
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 24 2023, 01:29 AM)
He did very well nullifying martinelli already... Cannot everything also blame him lol... Midfield without a world class cdm reli alot of difference... Technical wise... This is why the non injured partey revitalize arsenal bolos ing midfield... Mctom is no where near there... And erikssen, susah... He is playing at his limit with his mechanical heart... 3 matches he also starting first 11
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jan 24 2023, 10:50 PM)
Yea thats because we werent pinning the fullbacks back with Garnacho or Pellestri, thats why Zinchenko can be so far forward to be involved in the goal. I am annoyed that we didnt try to go for the win.
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Things were good when Antony still in the field. He and AWB both closed down opponent left side, leaving Saka there to attack only but changed when Antony got yellow and seems don’t dare to press or mark Zinchenko, this given Zinchenko room to roam forward when Antony was subbed off with Fred as Bruno always like to move into central area. We all know AWB weakness always been 2 vs 1, where he don’t know who to make. The built up before the goal, try reply that again, Varane already instruct AWB to mark Zinchenko but he opt to marked Trossard. Yes, best is to put Pellestri or Elanga on the right to help AWB but ETH did not do that


McTom we all know he alone cannot play DM even with someone beside him, his weakness always awareness, first half his instruction was quite cleared, we can see most of the time he charge forward and standing quite same position like Bruno and his job was to man marked Xhaka while Eriksen sit back and mark Odegaard which I think already good given he and McTom able to limit both Xhaka and Odegaard.

Waghorst, this game really can see he was playing like attacking midfield with defense role, he put on tackling, interceptions where hardly any other central forward will do.

As the score still tied at 2-2, most managers, maybe add in Conte or even Mourinho will sub in more defensive players to get the 1 point but our boss still want to control the possession
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Domino effect?
Son will leave?
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I understand Danjuma was already with the Everton squad and had done media work ahead of signing the documents but the sacking of Lampard as Everton manager played a big part in changing his mind.
Suddenly the manager he agreed with is gone and he was on the brink of signing for a manager-less club, no guarantee that any new manager would play him.

Spurs jumped on it.
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Why la cant we play like this masa lawan arsengal?
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Pathetic opponent that's why
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Their recent form has been good tho, we expose them from the start with wide vs their narrow formation. But our defense was shaky also, allowed them a lot of chances.

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Good result, we can rotate for the return leg. With FA Cup coming, the glimpse of Sancho will be much welcome.
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Almost full team again
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jan 26 2023, 08:02 AM)
Almost full team again
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Their recent form has been good tho, we expose them from the start with wide vs their narrow formation. But our defense was shaky also, allowed them a lot of chances.
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Forest has been quite bad overall this season when they cant even reli capitalize on a tiring man utd to get something out... Shud be going down soon...
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oh no, the team won.

Dang it, I thought I can write a wall of text of why the rot starting from the fish head should be immediately removed.
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why are you guys posting old friendly matches? That should be like the 20th anniversary for the 99 treble from 2019.
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why are you guys posting old friendly matches? That should be like the 20th anniversary for the 99 treble from 2019.
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C'mon folks. A little more positivity!

It was a good away win. Weghorst got off the mark with a goal.
Gives us room to rest players for the FA Cup tie. Manchester United is the only English club still in all (Four) competitions.

I guess the recent years has made all of us a little more negative. Barely a page moves with a win but many pages of post with a loss.
If life has taught me anything, it is enjoy the sun while it lasts. We can whine in winter.

For now, it feels really good to leave the cave we have all been living in for an extended period of time.

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Didn't watched the game.
But results very okay.

Scored 3 away goals before 2nd leg, boleh kasi more room for playing fringe players and resting lineup players finally.

29 Jan - Reading(H) - FA Cup
2 Feb - Nottingham Forest (H) - EFL Cup
4 Feb - Crystal Palace (H)
9 Feb - Leeds (H)
12 Feb - Leeds (A)

Method 1
Full force against Reading, then rest most lineup players against Nottingham Forest.
Then full force again back to Premier League.

Method 2
If Ten Hag confident and dare.
Both Reading and Nottingham matches also send Team B.
Give lineup players a full week rest before continue fighting in Premier League.
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Watched delayed match from astro.

Antony macam old Rashford. Semua chances wasted. Easily 4-0 at halftime if he convert those chances

Rashford really full of confidence now
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Jan 26 2023, 06:19 PM)
Didn't watched the game.
But results very okay.

Scored 3 away goals before 2nd leg, boleh kasi more room for playing fringe players and resting lineup players finally.

29 Jan - Reading(H) - FA Cup
2 Feb - Nottingham Forest (H) - EFL Cup
4 Feb - Crystal Palace (H)
9 Feb - Leeds (H)
12 Feb - Leeds (A)

Method 1
Full force against Reading, then rest most lineup players against Nottingham Forest.
Then full force again back to Premier League.

Method 2
If Ten Hag confident and dare.
Both Reading and Nottingham matches also send Team B.
Give lineup players a full week rest before continue fighting in Premier League.
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Full force against Reading, but rusty players like Sancho, Tuanzebe, fringe players are ready in the bench when result are secured.

Against Forest, some youngsters start Ganacho, Pellestri, Mainoo, but the bench full of regulars.

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 27 2023, 12:58 AM)
Watched delayed match from astro.

Antony macam old Rashford. Semua chances wasted. Easily 4-0 at halftime if he convert those chances

Rashford really full of confidence now
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Weghorst arrivals did help Antony a lot, now it’s up to him to convert the chances into goals.

He is more like a positional play type of player, quite similar to Sancho, remembered vs Arsenal game, he actually helps AWB by pressing Zinchenko, things went bad when he received yellow card and get subbed off which cause our right side get overload

If he buff up his body a bit then will be good
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I suddenly have a weird thought.
Shud Ten Hag try to play Antony as AM? A direct Bruno replacement.

I mean he really hardworking in helping defends.
Against Man City once he subbed off, we can see how important he is.

Yet he really x boleh dribble, and Pellistri took his chance recently.
Against relatively weaker team that doesn't need to defend a lot, can play Pellistri as RW and Antony as AM to rest Bruno.

Bruno really tired, a few years already, fully utilized by all managers.
Really scared he will down 1 day.
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I suddenly have a weird thought.
Shud Ten Hag try to play Antony as AM? A direct Bruno replacement.

I mean he really hardworking in helping defends.
Against Man City once he subbed off, we can see how important he is.

Yet he really x boleh dribble, and Pellistri took his chance recently.
Against relatively weaker team that doesn't need to defend a lot, can play Pellistri as RW and Antony as AM to rest Bruno.

Bruno really tired,  a few years already, fully utilized by all managers.
Really scared he will down 1 day.
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No because he stays wide to pull fullbacks and midfielders towards him
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Unlike the London clubs reinforcing during the January transfer window, our manager isn't getting much help to date.


Erik ten Hag has urged Manchester United to "strike" in the transfer market if an opportunity arises before Tuesday's deadline.

United have so far added only loan striker Wout Weghorst in January with sources telling ESPN the club are instead focused on strengthening the squad in the summer.

But with just days to go before the deadline, Ten Hag has put pressure on the board to keep pursuing new signings ahead of what could be a busy second half of the season in four competitions.

"In the coming days, if we had the opportunity I would go for it but that's not also up to me, that's also clear," said Ten Hag.

"I think this club always has to have the approach that every day you have to get better so if there are opportunities to get better then you have to strike.

"That's my approach so I'm looking around, to research but I have an idea with which profiles we could strengthen the squad."

United are the only English team left in four competitions and Ten Hag is keen to have a squad big enough to cope with the demands of a season that could stretch to more than 60 games.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/manchester-unit...r-window-closes
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Unlike the London clubs reinforcing during the January transfer window, our manager isn't getting much help to date.
Erik ten Hag has urged Manchester United to "strike" in the transfer market if an opportunity arises before Tuesday's deadline.

United have so far added only loan striker Wout Weghorst in January with sources telling ESPN the club are instead focused on strengthening the squad in the summer.

But with just days to go before the deadline, Ten Hag has put pressure on the board to keep pursuing new signings ahead of what could be a busy second half of the season in four competitions.

"In the coming days, if we had the opportunity I would go for it but that's not also up to me, that's also clear," said Ten Hag.

"I think this club always has to have the approach that every day you have to get better so if there are opportunities to get better then you have to strike.

"That's my approach so I'm looking around, to research but I have an idea with which profiles we could strengthen the squad."

United are the only English team left in four competitions and Ten Hag is keen to have a squad big enough to cope with the demands of a season that could stretch to more than 60 games.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/manchester-unit...r-window-closes
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Same old stories I guess.

Pancing wanna sell. Padahal don’t want to sell pun. So leech club to death. Don’t want to buy players because club β€œperform”. Wait till players fatigue, and everything will crumble. Lol.

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Maybe Glazer wanna wait and sell club… so monies keep for rolling and bankroll Glazer’s coffers.
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Glazer wont approve any spending spree until they wash hand... It is expected already... Look at Liverpool... Totally same like us... Lol... Their owners nt looking to buy anymore despite they need more addition than us... Lol
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Ten Hag almost full force, not even half, like 80%.
Look at the middle and attacking line.
Please tolong score 3 or 4 goals before 60 mins, so can sub in 5 players to rest some over-utilized players.
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Ten Hag almost full force, not even half, like 80%.
Look at the middle and attacking line.
Please tolong score 3 or 4 goals before 60 mins, so can sub in 5 players to rest some over-utilized players.
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He has been criticized for that at Ajax as well, constantly using the same players even when he doesnt need to.
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Sancho should have been on the bench for this game man
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Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag has explained the reasons for Luke Shaw and Scott McTominay being absent for tonight’s Emirates FA Cup tie against Reading.

McTominay was on the bench against Nottingham Forest in the Carabao Cup semi-final first leg, but did not make an appearance. His last start came against Arsenal in the 3-2 loss at the Emirates Stadium last Sunday.

As for Shaw, he also started in the defeat to the Gunners last weekend, but was missing from the squad that travelled to The City Ground on Wednesday night.

Speaking to MUTV, Ten Hag said that he is hopeful the duo can make a swift return against Forest in the second leg of the Carabao Cup semi-final.

β€œLuke is ill and Scott has a small problem,” said Ten Hag.

β€œWe don't want to take risks, so I hope they can be back on Wednesday but I'm not sure.”


https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/erik-...28-january-2023

Rashford! He is really on fire biggrin.gif Nvm... LOL

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Haiz ... Can create chance, but no luck.
No blaming, already considered good if compared to last season where once opponent park the bus, totally dunno what to do.
Now at least know what to do, just need some luck.
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https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/erik-...28-january-2023

Rashford! He is really on fire  biggrin.gif Nvm... LOL
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Lets go Casemiro! Antony with the assist!
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Harry Maguire ... Ten Hag really need to be firm on decision in selling him.
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Be it experimental or same idea, Antony is playing as AM, as what I mentioned yesterday, lol
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Job done.
Hopefully more lineup players can rest next match against Nottingham Forest in EFL cup.
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Job done.
Hopefully more lineup players can rest next match against Nottingham Forest in EFL cup.
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Hopefully Sancho plays in that game larh,
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A bit of swagger in our play. Another win, another win, another win.
We are rolling.

QUOTE(alien2003 @ Jan 28 2023, 02:02 PM)
Even Newcastle is getting Anthony Gordon.... I am not putting any hope of further arrivals...... wait till summer I guess  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jan 29 2023, 03:55 AM)
He has been criticized for that at Ajax as well, constantly using the same players even when he doesnt need to.
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I'm not having much hope too. I feel ETH is pushing for it internally but like he said, it is out of his hands.
Can't help but think if his consistent line up is sending a subtle message like the first 2 games of the season against Brigthon and Brentford.

Back then it was exposing the quality of the inherited squad.
Now it is to show United are still in all competitions and we need more bodies to compete. I get why ETH is loathe to sell in accordance to the sell before buying club policy. With the transfer team, there is no guarantee they will be able to get the players needed even with the funds and we might end up failing to replace sold players.

If the club is forcing ETH to play the same line up all season, it is on the club and the owners. But the owners no longer care, they are exploring to sell the club so don't expect any investment. Not that it is their money anyway, they have never put in a cent.


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Hopefully wins are the norm for Man Utd

This feeling and confidence is long gone until the arrival of Ten Hag
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Eriksen left OT with stretchers, well we are screwed now unless we get some signings.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jan 26 2023, 09:05 AM)
3 goals in pockets for return match at OT can rotate plus next game vs Reading can do big rotation too
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jan 29 2023, 08:35 AM)
Eriksen left OT with stretchers, well we are screwed now unless we get some signings.
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Bro you mean crutches right? That’s about 15 times better than a stretcher.



Can anyone explain the off side call for the Rashford goal? It rebounded off a Reading player no?
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jan 29 2023, 09:35 AM)
Bro you mean crutches right? That’s about 15 times better than a stretcher.
Can anyone explain the off side call for the Rashford goal? It rebounded off a Reading player no?
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My bad LOL brain fart moment, yea crutches.

The goal should have stood its a brain fart from the ref and VAR ref, if it unintentionally hits the Reading player than they have a point, but he intentionally hits it, so the goal should have stood.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jan 29 2023, 09:35 AM)
Bro you mean crutches right? That’s about 15 times better than a stretcher.
Can anyone explain the off side call for the Rashford goal? It rebounded off a Reading player no?
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My understanding is that the goal should have stood as it came off a Reading player.

The alternate view would be as the pass is taken, Weghorst was already deemed offside even though he wasn't the intended recipient. So the flag went up when the rebound fell to him.
But even in this case, Weghorst was inactive as he wasn't the intended recipient and as soon the the ball touched the Reading player, his offside status would have reset to onside.

So yeah, VAR mistake as far as I'm concerned. Ref initially gave the goal.
At least these mistakes against us are coming off matches that we won rather than costing us points.

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Aiyo such a strong line up against reading... Can tahan til Barcelona match or not o... Thinking of the first team players may injured is scary...
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jan 29 2023, 09:38 AM)
My bad LOL brain fart moment, yea crutches.

The goal should have stood its a brain fart from the ref and VAR ref, if it unintentionally hits the Reading player than they have a point, but he intentionally hits it, so the goal should have stood.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 29 2023, 09:55 AM)
My understanding is that the goal should have stood as it came off a Reading player.

The alternate view would be as the pass is taken, Weghorst was already deemed offside even though he wasn't the intended recipient. So the flag went up when the rebound fell to him.
But even in this case, Weghorst was inactive as he wasn't the intended recipient and as soon the the ball touched the Reading player, his offside status would have reset to onside.

So yeah, VAR mistake as far as I'm concerned. Ref initially gave the goal.
At least these mistakes against us are coming off matches that we won rather than costing us points.
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So, armchair fans and an ex active amateur player (yours sincerely) of football disagree with professional referees.

We need a VAR to VAR the VAR to ensure proper VAR.

Ok then win some lose some as I also kinda disagree with the given goal for Bruno against Citeh.

When I played football the result was totally the other way around. Disallowed against city and allowed against reading. The interpretation of offside, active and inactive and intents has been taken too damn far.

That Carroll was a cnut. Next time he comes let’s ensure he leaves on stretcher before a red card need to be dished out. Preferably on the first few minutes.


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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jan 29 2023, 11:15 AM)
So, armchair fans and an ex active amateur player (yours sincerely) of football disagree with professional referees.

We need a VAR to VAR the VAR to ensure proper VAR.

Ok then win some lose some as I also kinda disagree with the given goal for Bruno against Citeh.

When I played football the result was totally the other way around. Disallowed against city and allowed against reading. The interpretation of offside, active and inactive and intents has been taken too damn far.

That Carroll was a cnut. Next time he comes let’s ensure he leaves on stretcher before a red card need to be dished out. Preferably on the first few minutes.
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You make it sound like being an active player of the sport gives you some higher understanding? Even pros at high level dont know every single rule. We are fans, even if logical i dont agree with certain calls even if i know i am deluded LOL

Consistency has to be the key, this exact goal was given when Salah scored with the defender flicking the ball resetting the play and Salah became on side.

This article goes through the logic of that Bruno-Rashford goal well IMO

https://www.espn.com/soccer/english-premier...anchester-derby

For me, i cant wait for football to evolve to become a sport with less reliance of referees interpretation, everything needs to be clear cut and data driven, and consistent throughout.

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Soon or later it is gonna happen.
He has been playing non-stop, so does other lineup players.
Expect at least will miss several weeks, if worse, months.

No blaming, it is footbal.
Injuries is unavoidable when u are sport athletic, especially football.
Look at pool and Chelsea injury list.
We are already considered lucky that our list not that long.
Still, it is slowly become longer now.
Martial, Dalot, VDB, McTom.

It is up to Ten Hag on how to deal with it now.
For me it so certain Ten Hag will use Fred to replace him at first.
But totally different function, certainly more work rate, but almost no composure, no vision, no killing pass, no crossing.

Mostly this mean will be breakthrough season for another youngster.
Mainoo seems good last night. Zidane has been waiting as well.

Like it or not, it is gonna happen.
Fred is just not good enough in providing composure, stability and creativity in midfield.
Work rate is his only strength, and it is far from sufficient.

Just like how Chelsea forced to play Lewis Hall, pool is forced to play Bajcetic.
It will happen.

Just hope Eriksen injury is not that serious.
Sure he will be greatly missed.

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You make it sound like being an active player of the sport gives you some higher understanding? Even pros at high level dont know every single rule. We are fans, even if logical i dont agree with certain calls even if i know i am deluded LOL

Consistency has to be the key, this exact goal was given when Salah scored with the defender flicking the ball resetting the play and Salah became on side.

This article goes through the logic of that Bruno-Rashford goal well IMO

https://www.espn.com/soccer/english-premier...anchester-derby

For me, i cant wait for football to evolve to become a sport with less reliance of referees interpretation, everything needs to be clear cut and data driven, and consistent throughout.
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I don’t say being a player makes me understand or being entitled higher but football is popular because it is not complicated. By right a 7 year old should understand the rules almost immediately.
Making it complicated will alienate people from the beautiful game.
Off side was added to improve sportsmanship but I don’t see any unsportsmanlike behaviour from recent allowed and disallowed goals. I only see hair, fingernails, toenails and mind reading from VAR.
how to teach kids to play and love the game if you struggle to explain what happen at the highest level. And we are still talking about rules here, not skill or tactics.

I do however see Carroll playing like a drunk hooligan trying to cut peoples legs away, which is nigh unsportsmanlike and yet it takes 65mins for him to be ejected. SMH.

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His dribbling skill did improved this season, which also the reason why he is scoring goals.

Hope he really get that mindset breakthrough instead of luck.
His dribbling in last season really vomit blood, always into the wall.

It is not even skill but his understanding toward dribbling is totally off.
Or shud I say he adapted a wrong dribbling style?

He always tried Neymar / Messi style of dribbling.
Now he adapted somewhat Mbappe style of dribbling, which definitely suit him more.

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so united has no intention to sell lindelof because another club has no intention to sell their player to manutd?
am i understand this tweet correctly?

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damn bloody sob Carroll dog, injured Eriksen and almost took out Casemiro

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Antony did very well yesterday. A lot key passes. Casemiro play = bring us higher lvl. Don't think we will lose if he available vs arsenal
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Brighton just dumped Liverpool out of the FA Cup with a last minute winner.
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An article on the offside event based on the laws of the game.
Images within the article in the link below.


What happened: In the 35th minute, Casemiro attempted to play a through-ball that Reading defender Thomas Holmes tried to intercept. The ball looped up and fell to Wout Weghorst, who headed across the face of goal for Rashford to score from close range.

After a VAR review, the goal was disallowed as Weghorst was in an offside position when Casemiro played the ball, and the striker was the next United player to become involved (watch here.)

VAR review: Even though Casemiro wasn't attempting to pass the ball to Weghorst, this is irrelevant in the offside law. The moment of the pass sets the offside position for all attacking players against the second-last opposition player, and it then depends how the ball comes to an attacker.

This drills right into the definition of a "deliberate play" in the offside law. We hear about this a lot in the modern game, even though it has existed within the laws for many years. The IFAB tried to clear up a lot of the mystery behind its interpretation in the summer, but it's application still remains incredibly subjective and very frustrating for many supporters.

Merely calling it a "deliberate play" is confusing in itself, because in almost all cases a player is trying to play the ball deliberately. The definition is far more complex and concerns, most importantly, a player having control over their actions and where the ball goes.

If a player is stretching, making a reflex action, or blocking a shot or cross, this shouldn't be seen as a "deliberate play." This isn't the same as a poor attempted clearance in which the player has the time and space to play the ball.


"Deliberate play" is when a player has control of the ball with the possibility of:
- passing the ball to a teammate
- gaining possession of the ball
- clearing the ball (e.g. by kicking or heading it).

The criteria to identify a "deliberate play":
- the ball travelled from distance and the player had a clear view of it
- the ball was not moving quickly
- the direction of the ball was not unexpected
- the player had time to coordinate their body movement, i.e., it was not a case of instinctive stretching or jumping, or a movement that achieved limited contact/control
- a ball moving on the ground is easier to play than a ball in the air

For Holmes, two of these clauses are important. Firstly, the ball didn't travel from distance, Casemiro was relatively close by when he played the ball. And most crucially, the Reading player didn't have time to coordinate his body movement. In attempting to cut out Casemiro's pass, Holmes made a blocking action with the outside of his right boot, causing the ball to loop up. It was not an attempted pass or a controlled clearance and absolutely fits the definition of a movement with limited contact/control.


Thomas Holmes makes a blocking action with the outside of his right boot, rather than a pass or clearance. ITV
There was no doubt Weghorst was in an offside position, so as soon as the VAR, Lee Mason, identifies the play wasn't deliberate, the only possible decision is to disallow the goal. That said, as this was a subjective call, referee Darren England really should have been sent to the monitor to confirm the decision, rather than it just being made by the VAR alone.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/english-fa-cup/...wed-for-offside
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ETH need to start using young midfielders in coming weeks. Fernandes will need a breather, Eriksen probably out for a month. Casemiro is the key, MacFred are okay in cup competitions but still a poor combo in league games.

We are good in defence department, wide players also in a decent depth. GK are well covered.

Upfront are obvious low in quality. Martial, Weghorst and Elanga. False 9 probably not a bad idea because we didn't do a lot of crosses.

I believe Glazers are in no mood to splash cash, but I still hope for a low key signing.
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ETH need to start using young midfielders in coming weeks. Fernandes will need a breather, Eriksen probably out for a month. Casemiro is the key, MacFred are okay in cup competitions but still a poor combo in league games.

We are good in defence department, wide players also in a decent depth. GK are well covered.

Upfront are obvious low in quality. Martial, Weghorst and Elanga. False 9 probably not a bad idea because we didn't do a lot of crosses.

I believe Glazers are in no mood to splash cash, but I still hope for a low key signing.
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to do loan signing during this window, there are not much options... maybe can loan busquet from barca... since FDJ seems like already taken his spot... or loan herrera from his current club...
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last day... any last min purchase? backup purchase at least.. cfc shopping like buy vege je.. power the new owner
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last day... any last min purchase? backup purchase at least.. cfc shopping like buy vege je.. power the new owner
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loan deals should be hard to do anything... dont expect too much... lol... any almost expire midfielder we can get in the market?
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looking at werghorst game the past few matches... he is definitely the giroud type of striker... pressing, hardworking, link up play and heading... dont expect him to score goals like ibra or cavani... but he is definitely the one that can get our wing to flourish type of striker... we never have a proper no.9 that willing to do the dirty work and link up play... and he willingly help us to get the ball at midfield also if required... he may not suitable for counter attacking... but even as false 9, he shud be doing very well for ETH...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 30 2023, 11:19 AM)
loan deals should be hard to do anything... dont expect too much... lol... any almost expire midfielder we can get in the market?
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dont think so... midfield thin now...

vdb out.. bruno playing almost every game.. erikson out.. youth needs to be given chance to play.. pray hard casemiro fit
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 30 2023, 11:26 AM)
dont think so... midfield thin now...

vdb out.. bruno playing almost every game.. erikson out.. youth needs to be given chance to play.. pray hard casemiro fit
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yeah susah, and we still in all 4 competitions... how to have strong squad without spending much money i pun tak tau... but this season as long as gt any cup... qualify UCL is enough for me... anything else will be bonus... our midfield mmg need to spend alot since dunno how many seasons ago...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 30 2023, 12:02 PM)
yeah susah, and we still in all 4 competitions... how to have strong squad without spending much money i pun tak tau... but this season as long as gt any cup... qualify UCL is enough for me... anything else will be bonus... our midfield mmg need to spend alot since dunno how many seasons ago...
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caicedo 70m gbp also rejected by brighton. wished we have the money to join the race. he is earning 3k pw only at brighton.

current stage top 3 + 1 cup win at is good enough. hope to see more young players starting in coming rotation games.
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caicedo 70m gbp also rejected by brighton. wished we have the money to join the race. he is earning 3k pw only at brighton.

current stage top 3 + 1 cup win at is good enough. hope to see more young players starting in coming rotation games.
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casemiro also cost us 60m... do you think brighton will wan lesser for a 21 years old? and knowing arsenal is very despo now... lol... january no cheap deals one la... if gt cheap deal u also takut... lol
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Saw somewhere that Greenwood is back to training.

That's good news tbh on the attacking front of the team.
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Saw somewhere that Greenwood is back to training.

That's good news tbh on the attacking front of the team.
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no reliable news on this... i doubt so... plus his case doesnt seems can settle anytime soon... career ruined for a stupid reason... going to be next ravel morrison soon... he is lucky that our club didnt release him with immediate effect
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QUOTE(tontolou @ Jan 30 2023, 03:26 PM)
Saw somewhere that Greenwood is back to training.

That's good news tbh on the attacking front of the team.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 30 2023, 12:15 PM)
casemiro also cost us 60m... do you think brighton will wan lesser for a 21 years old? and knowing arsenal is very despo now... lol... january no cheap deals one la... if gt cheap deal u also takut... lol
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casemiro was a late purchase and a 5 time cl winner still at 30.. glad we got him.. his 60m looks really good now.. he literally upgraded the midfield presence in defence and attack dept.

rmb we payed similar amount for adm almost 10 years ago...
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casemiro was a late purchase and a 5 time cl winner still at 30.. glad we got him.. his 60m looks really good now.. he literally upgraded the midfield presence in defence and attack dept.

rmb we payed similar amount for adm almost 10 years ago...
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hopefully casemiro still gt 5 years left with us now... he proved everyone wrong when he showcase his passing is as good as kroos and modric...

ADM is a good purchase.... until he kena robbed... lol... and his style doesnt jive with LVG... its like u ask RM players to play barca style...
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Cancelo to Bayern Munich, extremely out of expectation.
Don't think any team can stop Arsenal now.
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Jan 31 2023, 01:49 AM)
Cancelo to Bayern Munich, extremely out of expectation.
Don't think any team can stop Arsenal now.
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He wasnt playing anyway, he had arguments with Pep regarding that, so Pep showed him the door.
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We have a luck of the draw, FA Cup and Carabao Cup. IIRC we got ALL home ties (except Forest away, obligation)

West Ham are always the tough matches but it's at home. Moyes will rotate.
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Jan 31 2023, 01:49 AM)
Cancelo to Bayern Munich, extremely out of expectation.
Don't think any team can stop Arsenal now.
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When a team can scored a lot of half chance or difficult angle goals, this is one of champion requirements

In Pep’s system, anyone can be replace plus City recruitment team can easily find another one to replace him except for SSS type of player like Haaland
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last transfer day.. not even loanee coming in? saddings. woodward out owait
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last transfer day.. not even loanee coming in? saddings. woodward out owait
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 31 2023, 09:40 AM)
maybe can sign some shits from chelsea since they so many incoming... sure need some outgoing to balance out... lol... gallagher ke, jorginho ke, loftus creek ke... lol
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Depay, Isco cheap bargain, could improve us, gone. I'm quite realistic fan, I expect our club only afford this type of deal.

Now just play some youngsters, or risk numbers of key players play through fatigue and half fitness.
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Depay, Isco cheap bargain, could improve us, gone. I'm quite realistic fan, I expect our club only afford this type of deal.

Now just play some youngsters, or risk numbers of key players play through fatigue and half fitness.
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oh yeah isco, but so far no one focus on him too... actually other league gt alot of almost expire players to sign for loan deals... but i guess not all suitable for ETH... look at weghorst deal, i think ETH is not only just sapu, he only wan the most suitable one even it the player coming on loan.... not just anybody with some reputation is enough...
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Tielemens 6 months away from expired contract. Why nobody look at him? Arsenal may take a shot as all their top choices didn't materialize. Us and Liverpool probably can use him as well.

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 29 2023, 11:49 PM)
Brighton just dumped Liverpool out of the FA Cup with a last minute winner.
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Mitoma punya goal is pure beauty my friend 🫡🏻
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Sweeter than that goal that beats pellegrini citeh in the final

Forgot the team name but it was pre-pep G citeh

QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 30 2023, 12:02 PM)
yeah susah, and we still in all 4 competitions... how to have strong squad without spending much money i pun tak tau... but this season as long as gt any cup... qualify UCL is enough for me... anything else will be bonus... our midfield mmg need to spend alot since dunno how many seasons ago...
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Haha we now like old Arsenal

Kronke kiam siap money when team already bottom 10 a decade ago laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(BartoCastro @ Jan 31 2023, 12:01 PM)
Tielemens 6 months away from expired contract. Why nobody look at him? Arsenal may take a shot as all their top choices didn't materialize. Us and Liverpool probably can use him as well.
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this guy likely have gentleman agreement with ars already. before the season starts already v close with ars.

players/midfield esp that have less than 6 months
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No expectation, no disappointment.
Playing Mainoo or even Zidand is certainly unavoidable now.
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No expectation, no disappointment.
Playing Mainoo or even Zidand is certainly unavoidable now.
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of course the glazers wont release fund, when we seems doing well now without spending much and they are still waiting for the new owner to spend money...
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lol arsenal from caceida to jorginho, what a huge twist... in the end later chelsea bought both caceida and enzo... lol
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Jan 31 2023, 05:33 PM)


No expectation, no disappointment.
Playing Mainoo or even Zidand is certainly unavoidable now.
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That is with IF, EtH plays Mainoo or Zidane laugh.gif

Now with Eriksen having an ankle injury, we can only pray Casemiro didn't have an injury or we'll get back to McFred again icon_question.gif
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Give us Busquet la. Better than nothing.
Play 20 mins as fresh legs also can.
If Franck Jessie, even better.

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No further update for the new owner? I thought the deadline is Feb

Buttt, maybe another stingy type of owner
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No further update for the new owner? I thought the deadline is Feb

Buttt, maybe another stingy type of owner
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As expected, but maximum 3 weeks later Ten Hag won't tahan Fred anymore, and will starting to play Mainoo or Zidane.

Exactly what happened to Hall for Chelsea and Bajcetic for pool. Mark my words.


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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Jan 31 2023, 08:44 PM)


As expected, but maximum 3 weeks later Ten Hag won't tahan Fred anymore, and will starting to play Mainoo or Zidane.

Exactly what happened to Hall for Chelsea and Bajcetic for pool.
Mark my words.
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Fred cannot operate deep, if he play further up, he is more useful and his weakness can easily covered up

As compared to McTom, beside home grown, he got nothing now, you can see ETH don’t even use him now.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jan 31 2023, 08:48 PM)
Fred cannot operate deep, if he play further up, he is more useful and his weakness can easily covered up

As compared to McTom, beside home grown, he got nothing now, you can see ETH don’t even use him now.
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Fred is just hardworking, nothing more.
His composure, vision, passing is not even 1/10 of Eriksen.
Using Fred for long term means the creativity passing only relying on Bruno, which is easily predictable by opponent team, and thus setting plan to defeat us easily.
It is domino effect.

Thus like what I said, maximum 3 weeks, the results itself will force Ten Hag to find solution.
Playing Mainoo and Zidane is the most direct method.

Got another solution, but will involve lots of position changing.
Which is Martinez play as CM; Shaw play as CB; Malacia as LB.
Brandon Williams as replacement LB.

Or simply Martinez as CM; Harry Maguire as CB.

It will depend on Ten Hag and injuries situation till then.
No matter what method, if Bruno injured, then pray for top 10 la.
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As usual, last min buat kerja... Lol nanti kena bayar 50m for a midfielder.... Aiks
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 31 2023, 09:31 PM)
As usual, last min buat kerja... Lol nanti kena bayar 50m for a midfielder.... Aiks
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No la, Glazers won't approve any transfer money no more before selling of the club.

Either loan or not coming at all.
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No la, Glazers won't approve any transfer money no more before selling of the club.

Either loan or not coming at all.
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No competitor it seems
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Isco to Berlin deal collapse last min

Can go pancing him now
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No competitor it seems
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Sabitzer was one of the names on Rangnick's list of recommendations.
Maybe a loan with a buy option will work for us in case he fits in really well.

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Although should nt be happy, but then seems like a decent loan window that we have... At least just to beef up the dept that we needed
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Still envious that everyone else is spending money and we can only loan low profile players... But better than nothing... Look at Liverpool how silent this window already very special liao
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Feb 1 2023, 01:37 AM)
Still envious that everyone else is spending money and we can only loan low profile players... But better than nothing... Look at Liverpool how silent this window already very special liao
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He was one of the hottest player in the market before joining Munich back then.

Hopefully reason why he didn't play as lineup players in Bayern Munich is just bcuz tactical plan mismatched.

No expectation, no disappointment.
A player coming in already exceeded my expectation.

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Btw, I think both party wanted to include option-to-buy clause.
But it is just too rush to discuss the price, thus a simple loan.
Hopefully everything goes smooth, get the deal done first.

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What kind of player is marcel? Eriksen type?
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Chelsea crazy buy plus β€œslavery” contracts for 8 to 10 years
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Quite surprising they closed the deal that easy even thou no champions league to play next season
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QUOTE(MrBlackie33 @ Feb 1 2023, 08:12 AM)
Quite surprising they closed the deal that easy even thou no champions league to play next season
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Quite surprising they closed the deal that easy even thou no champions league to play next season
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maybe got advisor suggest to do it this season before newcastle come in and slap the oil inflation into everyone. but really fast deal and impressive.

hope our loanees perform and can perma purchase
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Lol, 120m for a midfielder... Hopefully he will be part of their deadwood team.... Lol... Enzo aint cdm... He is box to box like kovacic... Kante doesn't seems will back anytime soon.... Their squad super imbalance... Lol
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Feb 1 2023, 08:51 AM)
maybe got advisor suggest to do it this season before newcastle come in and slap the oil inflation into everyone. but really fast deal and impressive.
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Hopefully UEFA will look into it and deduct them some points and some ban. Even huge fine is fine.

Chelsea might get away with it, but at least UEFA need to investigate deeply.
All clubs also need to give pressure, or else corrupted UEFA won't do things.
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maybe got advisor suggest to do it this season before newcastle come in and slap the oil inflation into everyone. but really fast deal and impressive.

hope our loanees perform and can perma purchase
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Gt money apa pun boleh la... Luckily hire a balia manager... Someone who din won any shit to handle a team of superstars ego... Its nt gonna end well... Lol
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What kind of player is marcel? Eriksen type?
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Feb 1 2023, 09:09 AM)
Hopefully UEFA will look into it and deduct them some points and some ban. Even huge fine is fine.

Chelsea might get away with it, but at least UEFA need to investigate deeply.
All clubs also need to give pressure, or else corrupted UEFA won't do things.
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Macam man city je... Bayar duit will settle eventually... Not like juventus lol always makan the penalty hidup2
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John o shea type... Lol... Jack of all trade haha
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Feb 1 2023, 09:09 AM)
Hopefully UEFA will look into it and deduct them some points and some ban. Even huge fine is fine.

Chelsea might get away with it, but at least UEFA need to investigate deeply.
All clubs also need to give pressure, or else corrupted UEFA won't do things.
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believe they have advisors on this. read that the transfer fee / by number of years so its 10m per player effectively. which doesnt affect ffp. go by the book nth wrong. its a gamble also. imagine we sign maguire and offer 9 years contract fml
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Feb 1 2023, 09:09 AM)
Hopefully UEFA will look into it and deduct them some points and some ban. Even huge fine is fine.

Chelsea might get away with it, but at least UEFA need to investigate deeply.
All clubs also need to give pressure, or else corrupted UEFA won't do things.
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Deduct or get transfer ban also no use, they tied down those players 8 to 10 years deals, they can survive with the current players for at least 3 to 4 transfer windows
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Feb 1 2023, 09:12 AM)
can he gk?
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He can be medical team doc as well πŸ˜…
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Deduct or get transfer ban also no use, they tied down those players 8 to 10 years deals, they can survive with the current players for at least 3 to 4 transfer windows
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If more than half are flops... How to survive lol... Keep on use Deadwood everyday... Lol
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can he gk?
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Feb 1 2023, 09:14 AM)
believe they have advisors on this. read that the transfer fee / by number of years so its 10m per player effectively. which doesnt affect ffp. go by the book nth wrong. its a gamble also. imagine we sign maguire and offer 9 years contract fml
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So many spending and transfer, so many documents.
So many people and organization involved.
I don't believe they didn't make one single mistake.

After all, human make mistakes.
It is up to UEFA to investigate.
Like I said, even huge fine also fine for me.

Stop leeching money by organizing more matches.
Get it from Chelsea.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Feb 1 2023, 09:33 AM)
6 mths saje, shud be cant see this scene haha
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Btw, news.
Won't have big affect anyway.
Injury ruined him.

Provided if he didn't get injured so frequently, we also do not need to always searching for CB.
Not his fault, but what a pity.

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Elanga, Pellistri, Zidane didn't get loan out eventually.
Quite feeling for Zidane, didn't get a single minute so far, but not approved to get loan out.

Kasi him some minutes in Nottingham match la adui.

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Gt money apa pun boleh la... Luckily hire a balia manager... Someone who din won any shit to handle a team of superstars ego... Its nt gonna end well... Lol
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Yaya. Will be super difficult. Hope they stuck with aka Fred maguire for 7-9 years. Then gg.

Quite satisfied with the last min loan. No expectation no disappointment. Better than play Fred week in week out


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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Feb 1 2023, 09:52 AM)
Elanga, Pellistri, Zidane didn't get loan out eventually.
Quite feeling for Zidane, didn't get a single minute so far, but not approved to get loan out.

Kasi him some minutes in Nottingham match la adui.
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ETH in charge reserve now, I think he saw something we don’t, that’s why Zidane not getting any call up to first team even on the bench, Mainoo on the hand get minutes
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Btw, news.
Won't have big affect anyway.
Injury ruined him.

Provided if he didn't get injured so frequently, we also do not need to always searching for CB.
Not his fault, but what a pity.
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Better sell actually, his injuries doesn't seems will recover kind... Already few seasons... Macam welbeck dy
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Imagine how Caicedo will be booed by their fans.
6 months pun x boleh wait.

Most probably was his agent who released the statement.
But he approved it, showed his personality.

If it was the agent released the statement without his approval.
Then he really need to sack the agent.

Btw, don't think he is the one who are looking for.
I like Palhinha more.

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Feb 1 2023, 10:11 AM)
Imagine how Caicedo will be booed by their fans.
6 months pun x boleh wait.

Most probably was his agent who released the statement.
But he approved it, showed his personality.

If it was the agent released the statement without his approval.
Then he really need to sack the agent.

Btw, don't think he is the one who are looking for.
I like Palhinha more.
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He is just like younger version of bissouma... Which now flopping hard in spurs... Eth need cdm that have more control on the ball not just destroyer style... Casemiro is the prime example of cdm we need... Combination of both...
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Yaya. Will be super difficult. Hope they stuck with aka Fred maguire for 7-9 years. Then gg.

Quite satisfied with the last min loan. No expectation no disappointment. Better than play Fred week in week out
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time to take guess on sabitzer shirt number, no.7?
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time to take guess on sabitzer shirt number, no.7?
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I was so bummed with Eriksen out. I'm not ETH and I don't know how he plans but I won't be surprised Marcel will fill the bench role while Fred comes on.

With ETH, those on the bench is just as important as the starting 11. Example :
Malacia / Shaw
Case / McFred
AWB / Dalot

I think ETH will use this new guy to provide plenty of backup and pressure to McFred and some to Bruno on the training ground to perform. Whoever wins on the training ground will be starting.

It also speaks badly about the options we have in reserve, that no one can be promoted to at least understudy of the understudy.

Eriksen has been a bright star this year, only overshadowed by the mega Casemiro. On his own we see a very very effective no.8. Carrick would be proud, Scholes too.

How on earth did we miss out on him over the years? Oh yeah we bought Fred and Pogback. Hmm.
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Glad that we seal the loan deal with Marcel Sabitzer.

With VDB unavailable for the entire season, suddenly our midfield feels very thin when Eriksen is unavailable for months, and McTom for weeks (yes, he is injured, too).
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 1 2023, 01:45 PM)
I was so bummed with Eriksen out. I'm not ETH and I don't know how he plans but I won't be surprised Marcel will fill the bench role while Fred comes on.

With ETH, those on the bench is just as important as the starting 11. Example :
Malacia / Shaw
Case / McFred
AWB / Dalot

I think ETH will use this new guy to provide plenty of backup and pressure to McFred and some to Bruno on the training ground to perform. Whoever wins on the training ground will be starting.

It also speaks badly about the options we have in reserve, that no one can be promoted to at least understudy of the understudy.

Eriksen has been a bright star this year, only overshadowed by the mega Casemiro. On his own we see a very very effective no.8. Carrick would be proud, Scholes too.

How on earth did we miss out on him over the years? Oh yeah we bought Fred and Pogback. Hmm.
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well we didnt opt for him last time. between him and bruno we took bruno in. and after that he got the incident which took out a few good years away from his career. at least we still can sign him and for free summore. hope he come back fit and give a couple more seasons
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well we didnt opt for him last time. between him and bruno we took bruno in. and after that he got the incident which took out a few good years away from his career. at least we still can sign him and for free summore. hope he come back fit and give a couple more seasons
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He go to inter first... He prefer to win title than with us this trophyless club... Now old already he no choice baru stuck with us... Hahaha
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 1 2023, 01:45 PM)
I was so bummed with Eriksen out. I'm not ETH and I don't know how he plans but I won't be surprised Marcel will fill the bench role while Fred comes on.

With ETH, those on the bench is just as important as the starting 11. Example :
Malacia / Shaw
Case / McFred
AWB / Dalot

I think ETH will use this new guy to provide plenty of backup and pressure to McFred and some to Bruno on the training ground to perform. Whoever wins on the training ground will be starting.

It also speaks badly about the options we have in reserve, that no one can be promoted to at least understudy of the understudy.

Eriksen has been a bright star this year, only overshadowed by the mega Casemiro. On his own we see a very very effective no.8. Carrick would be proud, Scholes too.

How on earth did we miss out on him over the years? Oh yeah we bought Fred and Pogback. Hmm.
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He go to inter first... He prefer to win title than with us this trophyless club... Now old already he no choice baru stuck with us... Hahaha
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Feb 1 2023, 02:45 PM)
Only Fred step up, Mc no longer in ETH’s plan.
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Lol, 120m for a midfielder... Hopefully he will be part of their deadwood team.... Lol... Enzo aint cdm... He is box to box like kovacic... Kante doesn't seems will back anytime soon.... Their squad super imbalance... Lol
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They doing overhaul for whole squad, most likely replace 10/11 starting eleven players. Jorginho gone, kante mostly sub next season. New look chelsea next season. Very interesting
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 1 2023, 03:05 PM)
Yes I also want to say Fred is stepping up and leaving Mc behind. Another feather on ETH cap
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Fred step up since RR time

ETH experiment with Fred playing as holding dm during pre season and he did ok but when league start, he got exposed in the first 2 games which leave ETH no choice but to abandon the idea. When Casemiro came, he used McTom to do limited role which he performed ok until first city game where he also got exposed everywhere

Since then Fred always a good sub coming in and playing infront of Casemiro and do a lot of dirty works upfront which build the foundation of ETH keep using him when time is right, McTom on the other hand, even reading game also not in the bench and unused sub for last forest game
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Feb 1 2023, 03:00 PM)
got win title at inter? thought he was considered surplus there. but between bruno and eriksen i think fans here also got discuss which one better before we sign... i for one was on bruno team - as he is younger for the fees
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Yea won it together with lukaku and sanchez ma... Hahah... But he didn't get alot game time like spurs time... Conte won't let him go anyway until he kena heart attack...
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Feb 1 2023, 04:45 PM)
Fred step up since RR time

ETH experiment with Fred playing as holding dm during pre season and he did ok but when league start, he got exposed in the first 2 games which leave ETH no choice but to abandon the idea. When Casemiro came, he used McTom to do limited role which he performed ok until first city game where he also got exposed everywhere

Since then Fred always a good sub coming in and playing infront of Casemiro and do a lot of dirty works upfront which build the foundation of ETH keep using him when time is right, McTom on the other hand, even reading game also not in the bench and unused sub for last forest game
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Injured bro after the MC game... Eth still keep him despite interest from other clubs... Dont think he is worse than fred.. but fred is more impactful as sub as he scored some goals dy
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Feb 1 2023, 05:00 PM)
Injured bro after the MC game... Eth still keep him despite interest from other clubs... Dont think he is worse than fred..Β  but fred is more impactful as sub as he scored some goals dy
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I certainly cannot understand why there are fans think Fred is better than McTom.
For me, both is same level.
Both without vision and positioning.

Nevertheless, they play different position now.
One is DM, one is CM.
It is not fair to compare apple with orange.

Yet, for those who keep praising Fred, and only criticize McTom.
I think they totally forgot how McTom had hard carried the DM position before Casemiro play.

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Feb 1 2023, 06:20 PM)
I certainly cannot understand why there are fans think Fred is better than McTom.
For me, both is same level.
Both without vision and positioning.

Nevertheless, they play different position now.
One is DM, one is CM.
It is not fair to compare apple with orange.

Yet, for those who keep praising Fred, and only criticize McTom.
I think they totally forgot how McTom had hard carried the DM position before Casemiro play.
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He was given limited role to be the 3rd man in the defence.

McTom now is only good cuz he has home grown status, once we sorted out that, he will definitely get sold

You can just search around the statistics between this 2, Fred is slightly ahead of McTom even just compared last season

Fred is good as squad player, not a starter but McTom situation is awkward considering he is behind Casemiro, Eriksen and Fred, now with the new joiner, he become 5th choice or possible 6th since Mainoo is coming up
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Feb 1 2023, 04:45 PM)
Fred step up since RR time

ETH experiment with Fred playing as holding dm during pre season and he did ok but when league start, he got exposed in the first 2 games which leave ETH no choice but to abandon the idea. When Casemiro came, he used McTom to do limited role which he performed ok until first city game where he also got exposed everywhere

Since then Fred always a good sub coming in and playing infront of Casemiro and do a lot of dirty works upfront which build the foundation of ETH keep using him when time is right, McTom on the other hand, even reading game also not in the bench and unused sub for last forest game
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Fred only good when high high up the pitch and we are not defending lead. Against cp, arsenal. Bolos after he sub in when we need to be solid.

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I certainly cannot understand why there are fans think Fred is better than McTom.
For me, both is same level.
Both without vision and positioning.

Nevertheless, they play different position now.
One is DM, one is CM.
It is not fair to compare apple with orange.

Yet, for those who keep praising Fred, and only criticize McTom.
I think they totally forgot how McTom had hard carried the DM position before Casemiro play.
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McT actively hides behind defenders putting himself out of play.
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really overhaul. impressive likely with jomo coming back for a third spell... with owner backing. this one gonna be fun
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Tolong kasi score at least 1 ~ 2 goals before half time so can fully utilize 5 subs.
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Tolong kasi score at least 1 ~ 2 goals before half time so can fully utilize 5 subs.
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Already leading 3 goals, majority of the player apply 3rd gear only.
Shud kasi chance for fringe players and youngsters.
Cannot afford lineup players injured.
See, Varane kena tackle in the ankle.
Cukup la, can win already. Protect some lineup players tolong.
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Sancho as AM, exactly what I thought.
I personally really think he suit this position more.
He has no speed for dribbling, cannot do Beckham cross as well, but his vision and killing pass is a fit as AM.

It is time to have a 2nd choice of no.10.
Cannot always just Bruno.
Firstly, too easy to be predicted by opponent team.
Second, he is not machine, really cannot play every match.

I am really glad Ten Hag is having same thought.
Last time Antony as AM, seems not quite successful.
But Sancho seems not bad.

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Easy 5-0 cukuplah

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First final in ETH's first season. Something to look forward to.
It's a 50-50 game. This season Newcastle are stronger than some Big Six teams. I'm sure Newcastle's new owners also want a first trophy of their reign.

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It's done, congratulations. Great job. Newcastle know how to defend well. It will be a good final.

Put the focus on the next league game πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ
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Ten Hag seems to be very critical of the kids. Maybe that's the reason why we don't see Zidane (and the rest) that much.

The kids on the bench are probably those who can take Ten Hag's instructions.
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Ten Hag seems to be very critical of the kids. Maybe that's the reason why we don't see Zidane (and the rest) that much.

The kids on the bench are probably those who can take Ten Hag's instructions.
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i think zidane have some disciplinary issue also like garnacho last time... thats why eth dont want to use him at all... torture him by giving him a seat on the bench to never able to play the first team game... lol
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i think zidane have some disciplinary issue also like garnacho last time... thats why eth dont want to use him at all... torture him by giving him a seat on the bench to never able to play the first team game... lol
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next game is 2 days away.. and some played the whole 90 mins. can tahan ah?
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next game is 2 days away.. and some played the whole 90 mins. can tahan ah?
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eth say they prefer more matches than more trainings... lol... dunno real or not...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Feb 2 2023, 09:26 AM)
i think zidane have some disciplinary issue also like garnacho last time... thats why eth dont want to use him at all... torture him by giving him a seat on the bench to never able to play the first team game... lol
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Don’t always said why no Zidane, why don’t play Zidane, why always play Fred. ETH knows best

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Greenwood charges ALL DROPPED

Well, at least next season we no need spend 100M to sign a striker
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Feb 2 2023, 10:23 PM)
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Well, at least next season we no need spend 100M to sign a striker
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Need to be match fit
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Well, at least next season we no need spend 100M to sign a striker
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Like a new signing they say every damn time. laugh.gif

But on a serious note this is a huge news. Not sure how the squad or eth react to it... But.. he is innocent until proven guilty.

So in theory the guy deserves a 2nd chance. Heard from the rumour mill , he has been training all out at home. Probably gives you some hope that he somewhat will resemble a football player if we ever sees him again.

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How was sancho btw?
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this guy has some discipline issue before... not sure if he has changed now.
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Feb 2 2023, 10:39 PM)
Like a new signing they say every damn time. laugh.gif

But on a serious note this is a huge news. Not sure how the squad or eth react to it... But.. he is innocent until proven guilty.

So in theory the guy deserves a 2nd chance. Heard from the rumour mill , he has been training all out at home. Probably gives you some hope that he somewhat will resemble a football player if we ever sees him again.
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I recalled ETH first few interviews saying if Greenwood is proven no guilty then he will used him

ETH doesn’t see past year records/ stats, everyone deserved a fresh start under him.

Now it’s up to Greenwood to be a good boy or facing the boot
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Ten Hag seems to be very critical of the kids. Maybe that's the reason why we don't see Zidane (and the rest) that much.

The kids on the bench are probably those who can take Ten Hag's instructions.
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So funny. Rubbish lol.

Watched delayed astro match. Bloody referee. Macam makan duit. 2 blatant penalty no give. Foul on other area also no give. Casemiro slip then yellow card. Var also crap. Not helping.

Casemiro pass on first goal really wow. Martial top class. Just dun get injured. Casemiro really crucial in the team. Can even make Fred looks good.

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Bring it on Kayu Hijau
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I doubt about Greenwood coming back to football.

1) Will the club allow him to back to the club?
Half half, a big club that prioritize healthy image. Not easy.
Just imagine if MUWFC or female staff made a protest. That will be more than sufficient to give up on him.

2) Will Ten Hag give him a chance?
Positive, Ten Hag already gave his stance.

3) Does Greenwood himself wanna comeback to play football?
Complex. No one know what he thinks.

4) Even if he come back, will he able to handle the pressure from fans, media, and public? Especially opponent teams' fans.
Booing and ridiculing for every match?
Complex again.

5) Will all the teammates will accept him?
Half half. Some people really don't tolerate women abuse at all.
It will create dressing room politics again, which Ten Hag doesn't want to see at all.

Using Citeh Mendy as example, Citeh only release this statement after he was proven not guilty by the court.

"Given there are open matters related to this case, the Club is not in a position to comment further at this time."

It will be fully depends on himself.
What he thinks and his capability to handle huge pressure.

Any player in same position before but still able to play football?
CR7 situation is much better bcuz the public choose to believe him.

Neymar also get in trouble before.
But for Greenwood, it is the only case where obvious video is published via media platforms.

Don't get me wrong, not that I am on the side to oppose him comeback.
Just want to analyze the actual situation, it won't be easy.

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Im open to greenwood playing for us again. Deserve a second chance
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Look at the likes.
The pressure for both club and Greenwood will be sky high.
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Lindelof as DM, I exactly talked about it when we are stuck with McFred in Ole era.

Back then, I always said, if nothing change, then nothing change.
When something is not working, then find alternative solution.
But not stuck with same routine (McFred) and expect different result.
I exactly used "can use Lindelof as DM" as example.
Almost no one agreed with my idea.
Glad Ten Hag see the same.

Now with injury list piling up, Ten Hag already tried a few players in different positions.
I like it, I can even say we are in same page.
Antony as AM; Sancho as AM; Lindelof as DM.
Exactly same with my thoughts based on observation toward player traits.

After those experimental playing time.
I certainly hope to see Sancho playing as AM again.
Even permanently change to this position.

If McTom continue to stay injured, I also will be more than happy to see Lindelof as DM fresh leg instead of Fred.
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Lindelof as DM, I exactly talked about it when we are stuck with McFred in Ole era.

Back then, I always said, if nothing change, then nothing change.
When something is not working, then find alternative solution.
But not stuck with same routine (McFred) and expect different result.
I exactly used "can use Lindelof as DM" as example.
Almost no one agreed with my idea.
Glad Ten Hag see the same.

Now with injury list piling up, Ten Hag already tried a few players in different positions.
I like it, I can even say we are in same page.
Antony as AM; Sancho as AM; Lindelof as DM.
Exactly same with my thoughts based on observation toward player traits.

After those experimental playing time.
I certainly hope to see Sancho playing as AM again.
Even permanently change to this position.

If McTom continue to stay injured, I also will be more than happy to see Lindelof as DM fresh leg instead of Fred.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Feb 2 2023, 10:49 PM)
I recalled ETH first few interviews saying if Greenwood is proven no guilty then he will used him

ETH doesn’t see past year records/ stats, everyone deserved a fresh start under him.

Now it’s up to Greenwood to be a good boy or facing the boot
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Looks so far eth no give dak if u r a big name and prefers discipline. Hope he can bring up proper guidance to Greenwood. As saf to cr
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Many forget Benzema case, Madrid fans want his head and doesn’t want him to represent the club, he went thru all and the managers give him trust and what he achieve? He basically carried RM’s arse when CR7 left

Back to United, heritage? Remember this legends? Rio missed the test causing him got banned, Cantona publicly kick opponent fans during a match, Rooney went cheong old ayam πŸ˜‚β€¦. Giggs banging sister in law and so on, CR7 if want to make the list. Of cos the media, opponent taunting will be very strong but if it’s all depends on how Greenwood himself handle.

Everyone deserve a second chance, and now our manager is ETH.

Police already dropped the case, now it’s MU internal investigation and it’s all about how skilful our PR team to come out with a good statement, of cos ETH will get bombard by press and media later for pre match pc.

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Feb 3 2023, 01:12 AM)
Club sure want kayu hijau play and hopefully worth 100m in future la. Otherwise really lose 100m worth of player in the name of morality

For me, I don't care about whoever private life. I just watch football. Lousy in football then kena kecam.
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Ya simple as that, he is gifted striker type player and he needs a proper coach to guide him, Ole can’t, RR can’t I believe if ETH can make him good then really give mad respect to ETH. Players like Shaw, AWB, Fred, Martial, Rashford really improved under ETH, and now he slowly revitalised Sancho.
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I am in agreement with all of you that Greenwood be given an opportunity if he is legally not found guilty. We all have our opinions as humans but professional careers should be bound by the law rather than opinion.

The only difference is that he gets an opportunity. Not a spot in the squad yet. We give him an open door. Greenwood has to choose to walk through it and work for it.

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if he able to go through the pressure and make it through... i will support him as a man utd fans... im not greenwood fans... so his personal life not reli a matter to me... the law say he is not guilty then thats it... no need talk about morality and etc.... we are football fans, not footballer soap opera fans... lol
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Feb 3 2023, 01:16 AM)


Lindelof as DM, I exactly talked about it when we are stuck with McFred in Ole era.

Back then, I always said, if nothing change, then nothing change.
When something is not working, then find alternative solution.
But not stuck with same routine (McFred) and expect different result.
I exactly used "can use Lindelof as DM" as example.
Almost no one agreed with my idea.
Glad Ten Hag see the same.

Now with injury list piling up, Ten Hag already tried a few players in different positions.
I like it, I can even say we are in same page.
Antony as AM; Sancho as AM; Lindelof as DM.
Exactly same with my thoughts based on observation toward player traits.

After those experimental playing time.
I certainly hope to see Sancho playing as AM again.
Even permanently change to this position.

If McTom continue to stay injured, I also will be more than happy to see Lindelof as DM fresh leg instead of Fred.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Feb 3 2023, 08:11 AM)
Ya simple as that, he is gifted striker type player and he needs a proper coach to guide him, Ole can’t, RR can’t I believe if ETH can make him good then really give mad respect to ETH. Players like Shaw, AWB, Fred, Martial, Rashford really improved under ETH, and now he slowly revitalised Sancho.
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I like eth revitalising Shaw and especially awb. Eth already has my respect since he able beat most of the top managers in the league just like ole. Not macam moyes, rr, can never beat top managers no matter try how many times. Sure lose.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Feb 3 2023, 09:21 AM)
if he able to go through the pressure and make it through... i will support him as a man utd fans... im not greenwood fans... so his personal life not reli a matter to me... the law say he is not guilty then thats it... no need talk about morality and etc.... we are football fans, not footballer soap opera fans... lol
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the law did not say he is not guilty. it was dropped. 2 different thing imo.
but yeah, happy to have him in the team provided he change

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Feb 3 2023, 09:23 AM)
lindelof as CDM i think brought up alot in social medias... but no coach dare to do it because he is the primary maguire cb partner all these while... until we bought varane and martinez only things changed... shaw as left CB also been brought for some time around the social media... and ETH materialize all our predictions for us... lol
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Lindelof have the traits for cdm for sure. Passing ability is good. Physical maybe need improvement ie more aggresive imo... but good to know lindelof is being considered to be an option in cdm whr we are thin..
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Club sure want kayu hijau play and hopefully worth 100m in future la. Otherwise really lose 100m worth of player in the name of morality

For me, I don't care about whoever private life. I just watch football. Lousy in football then kena kecam.
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There is no way he is worth 100mil anymore mate, he is not played for a whole year, even if he rediscovers some sort of form, he should be 10-20mil player at most. Best thing for the club to do is cancel his contract.
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I am in agreement with all of you that Greenwood be given an opportunity if he is legally not found guilty. We all have our opinions as humans but professional careers should be bound by the law rather than opinion.

The only difference is that he gets an opportunity. Not a spot in the squad yet. We give him an open door. Greenwood has to choose to walk through it and work for it.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Feb 3 2023, 09:21 AM)
if he able to go through the pressure and make it through... i will support him as a man utd fans... im not greenwood fans... so his personal life not reli a matter to me... the law say he is not guilty then thats it... no need talk about morality and etc.... we are football fans, not footballer soap opera fans... lol
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Yes bro, I don’t really care personal life of players or celebrities/singers I like, I enjoy their work more than their soap opera.

As long as he can handle the pressure from female right group, media, opponent taunt and can fit into ETH system, I’m more than happy to welcome him for second chance.

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the law did not say he is not guilty. it was dropped. 2 different thing imo.
but yeah, happy to have him in the team provided he change
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well legality wise he is not guilty until proven otherwise... haha... so dropped = not guilty...? since he is not proven otherwise...

moral intention is not up to us to decide... we have gone thru PR disasters like this and we still survived until now.... its up to the club whether to accept him back lol
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Feb 3 2023, 10:58 AM)
There is no way he is worth 100mil anymore mate, he is not played for a whole year, even if he rediscovers some sort of form, he should be 10-20mil player at most. Best thing for the club to do is cancel his contract.
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hard to say bro, nothing is certain in this world... and human have short term memory span, if he come back and score back to back top scorer award... with english tax, he can easily worth more than 100mil... nothing is certain bro.....
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Feb 3 2023, 11:11 AM)
hard to say bro, nothing is certain in this world... and human have short term memory span, if he come back and score back to back top scorer award... with english tax, he can easily worth more than 100mil... nothing is certain bro.....
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You can be certain that rival fans will eat him up, i give it 0 chance of him becoming top scorer for United etc.
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You can be certain that rival fans will eat him up, i give it 0 chance of him becoming top scorer for United etc.
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Feb 3 2023, 11:24 AM)
You can be certain that rival fans will eat him up, i give it 0 chance of him becoming top scorer for United etc.
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well, it's up to us back him up then, isn't it? ppl can change
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Yea i bet you wouldnt be saying that if that shit happened to your family member. Its not allegations like Mendy, or Ronaldo or Kobe. Evidence was posted online by the victim and charges were only dropped because of withdrawal of the key witness.

And why the hell should we back him? I dont want him anywhere near the team. We had good players in the past, we will have good players in the future.
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Feb 3 2023, 11:46 AM)
Yea i bet you wouldnt be saying that if that shit happened to your family member. Its not allegations like Mendy, or Ronaldo or Kobe. Evidence was posted online by the victim and charges were only dropped because of withdrawal of the key witness.

And why the hell should we back him? I dont want him anywhere near the team. We had good players in the past, we will have good players in the future.
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Feb 3 2023, 10:58 AM)
There is no way he is worth 100mil anymore mate, he is not played for a whole year, even if he rediscovers some sort of form, he should be 10-20mil player at most. Best thing for the club to do is cancel his contract.
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Feb 3 2023, 11:46 AM)
Yea i bet you wouldnt be saying that if that shit happened to your family member. Its not allegations like Mendy, or Ronaldo or Kobe. Evidence was posted online by the victim and charges were only dropped because of withdrawal of the key witness.

And why the hell should we back him? I dont want him anywhere near the team. We had good players in the past, we will have good players in the future.
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professionally why not.. and the charges were dropped also

even ex convict deserve 2nd chance when they come out.. let them start again not just push them away
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Feb 3 2023, 11:46 AM)
Yea i bet you wouldnt be saying that if that shit happened to your family member. Its not allegations like Mendy, or Ronaldo or Kobe. Evidence was posted online by the victim and charges were only dropped because of withdrawal of the key witness.

And why the hell should we back him? I dont want him anywhere near the team. We had good players in the past, we will have good players in the future.
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personally yes if it happens to us, but professionally or as a fans... dont need to be so personal... we are here to support the football club and its players... no need to make it too personal... of course, we are not asking for your forgiveness... and same applies to all the other fans in the world...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Feb 3 2023, 12:20 PM)
personally yes if it happens to us, but professionally or as a fans... dont need to be so personal... we are here to support the football club and its players... no need to make it too personal... of course, we are not asking for your forgiveness... and same applies to all the other fans in the world...
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professionally why not.. and the charges were dropped also

even ex convict deserve 2nd chance when they come out.. let them start again not just push them away
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read somewhere, the girlfriend that leaked the tape is back with him now
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Pogba: Speaking in his new Amazon Prime documentary named The Pogmentary, he said: β€œMy thought process is to show Manchester (United) that they made a mistake in waiting to give me a contract. And to show other clubs that Manchester had made a mistake in not offering me a contract.

Now this feel hilarious 🀣
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Pogba: Speaking in his new Amazon Prime documentary named The Pogmentary, he said: β€œMy thought process is to show Manchester (United) that they made a mistake in waiting to give me a contract. And to show other clubs that Manchester had made a mistake in not offering me a contract.

Now this feel hilarious 🀣
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One of the best transfer decisions we ever made was to get rid of pogba. thank god
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read somewhere, the girlfriend that leaked the tape is back with him now
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Yes, they're back together.

This is a tricky topic because how would we know the real story, right?

The same for Johnny Depp's case.

Nvm, let's get back to football.
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wondering will sabitzer start at home or not this weekend match... time to sapu CP and gain back our momentum in the league... hopefully sancho can play a part this weekend match...
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wondering will sabitzer start at home or not this weekend match... time to sapu CP and gain back our momentum in the league... hopefully sancho can play a part this weekend match...
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Yes, they're back together.

This is a tricky topic because how would we know the real story, right?

The same for Johnny Depp's case.

Nvm, let's get back to football.
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Tbh it’s not that different from our Zahid case

Currently is not guilty but ppl is adamant bout his corruption
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Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag has provided an update on Marcel Sabitzer's availability, in advance of Saturday's 15:00 GMT kick-off against Crystal Palace.

The Reds are out to make it 13 wins on the trot at Old Trafford, but the Eagles showed in our previous encounter last month, a 1-1 draw, how capable they are of making life extremely difficult.

Ten Hag has confirmed our new loan signing from Bayern Munich, Sabitzer, will be in the matchday squad, which is a boost given midfielders Scott McTominay, Donny van de Beek and Christian Eriksen are all currently injured.

Diogo Dalot has resumed training, while Jadon Sancho and Anthony Martial both appeared as substitutes in the midweek Carabao Cup semi-final victory over Nottingham Forest, with Martial scoring the opening goal in the 2-0 win.

Goalkeeper Jack Butland is ineligible as he is currently on loan from the south Londoners.

When asked how Sabitzer has adapted already, the boss said: "Very good. Of course, he did only one session but you can see he's a very fit player. I didn't have a different expectation. He's coming from Bayern Munich. German [clubs] they are always [about] fitness, [it's] always good. So, he is [fit]. So, I think he is ready to play.

"I think he's a really smart player. I think we gave him some guidance but I think he knows what to do, he knows the job, so he could do [start]."

We await any confirmation on Dalot and McTominay's availability but the manager had suggested it was likely Scott would not be back in time.


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Anyone has online subscription options to watch the game?
Sooka has been to error prone for me. Paid but too often the stream would end in errors.
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Hopefully sancho can start to improve from now onwards... Its like a new winter signing for us... Eth didn't give up on him is a great sign of how a top class manager should be.... Can he turn mctom and maguire become world class too? πŸ˜‚
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Feb 4 2023, 10:58 AM)
Hopefully sancho can start to improve from now onwards... Its like a new winter signing for us... Eth didn't give up on him is a great sign of how a top class manager should be.... Can he turn mctom and maguire become world class too? πŸ˜‚
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That 2 are half give up and almost give up already πŸ˜‚
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That 2 are half give up and almost give up already πŸ˜‚
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Feb 4 2023, 10:58 AM)
Hopefully sancho can start to improve from now onwards... Its like a new winter signing for us... Eth didn't give up on him is a great sign of how a top class manager should be.... Can he turn mctom and maguire become world class too? πŸ˜‚
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They are already world class in their alternate universe
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Already dunno what to say.
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I think that is it.
Sell Martial, buy Weghorst and another CF in the end of season.
I like Martial, but certainly not an injury prone one.
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Already dunno what to say.
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The finance will not suddenly be better even if ETH is performing now. The debt that they created is starting to creep up and bit them back in the backside.

Plus the club might not have enough to give them dividend next round.
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So far for Malaysia our options seem limited to Astro. Sooka is also based on Astro backbone.

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Mainstream online subscription as I'm asking for a group of people. Not just me.
So far for Malaysia our options seem limited to Astro. Sooka is also based on Astro backbone.
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Imagine if Arsenal win the league without any defeat, how cocky their fans will be.
I think they will still win the league, but not with "unbeaten" titles.
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Bertenang... wait 11pm results 1st
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anything more is overachieving, thanks to the brilliant tactics of ETH

However London Red had 3 years of building a team, and now they are in contention to win. If they slip up, just like the season Leicester won, than they deserved to have fan like me slurping their tears.
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Lemah lembik dna is back... Lol... Hopefully they keep this consistency towards the end of season... Wondering where are those arsengal fans that come tokok here after their hard fought won against us πŸ˜‚
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Congrats to all football fans, especially fans of clubs from PL.
Imagine if Arsenal win the league without any defeat, how cocky their fans will be.
I think they will still win the league, but not with "unbeaten" titles.
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Ah, found get to watch for free as Maxis customer. Yay!
Game on.
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On the Maxis app, there should be an EPL tab. Scroll through the games to the United game. It should show RM 0 to buy. Confirm the transaction and it’ll reroute you to the Sooka site to stream.
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That should be a penalty.
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Penalty!!!
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Thanks for the hand πŸ˜‚
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Good start..
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Lol pools. . Kesian them
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12 minutes in. United’s high line pressure out of possession is quite effective. United have settled. Palace have not. Keep them off balance.
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Werghorst a great presence for cross... Too bad he still haven't score any from header... Aiks
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Rashford cant dribble for shit
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Nothing makes me worry more than seeing Casemiro on the ground holding his knee.
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What happen to salah? From ronaldo messi level terus downgrade πŸ˜… So the next ronaldo and messi is haaland and?
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What happen to salah? From ronaldo messi level terus downgrade πŸ˜… So the next ronaldo and messi is haaland and?
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Our new tall striker really tall. Should whip in some crosses for him to head biggrin.gif
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Nothing makes me worry more than seeing Casemiro on the ground holding his knee.
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What happen to salah? From ronaldo messi level terus downgrade πŸ˜… So the next ronaldo and messi is haaland and?
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Mbappe
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Mbappe
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Haaland & Greenwood  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Awb reli improve his dribbling recently... Last time no confidence to beat his man at all...
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Awb reli improve his dribbling recently... Last time no confidence to beat his man at all...
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Rashford cant dribble for shit
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What happen to salah? From ronaldo messi level terus downgrade πŸ˜… So the next ronaldo and messi is haaland and?
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werghost is like fellaini, doesn't have quick feet, reaction quite slow but they are important. typical tall players

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We have more possession, but actually didn't really created many chances.

Reason: opponent players were disciplined.
Antony is too easy to predict, as always.
Fred unable to become the transition between Casemiro and Bruno, as expected.

Almost all the chances derived from pressing.
One goal leading is not sufficient and risky.
Fred need to be off.
Depending on how Ten Hag think.
Either kasi Sabitzer his debut, or kasi chance to Mainoo, or play Sancho as AM again, Bruno play CM.

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Antony really cannot. Pls bring in Ganarcho or Sancho!
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Rashy again and again although his dribbling sucks lol
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Give red card jer la so ganas
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Wahhh Antony causing all these drama.
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red card offence
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Red card for that? That’s an absurd decision.
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No excuse and no complain on the decision. Stupid action by him doh.gif doh.gif
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Stupid lol... And we lost our best player...
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What the heck. Missing 3 matches zzzz
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Casemiro red, that few miliseconds view makes it a red, hughes did not even react to Casemiro hand around his neck.
Thanks to Anthony. Really. Anthony need to sit on the bench.

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3 games out.. nex 3 vs who
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Wahhh Antony causing all these drama.
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dayum....... among so many ppl, why Case
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Straight red means next 2 games gone?
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Red card for that? That’s an absurd decision.
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This casemiro seems to be hot headed sometimes but face looks calm as always

Btw our rival is 3-0 down at the moment

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3 games out.. nex 3 vs who
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3 games out.. nex 3 vs who
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Leeds double header.

Then it's either the Europa against Barca or PL game against Leicester.
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Why la Case.. dah la Erikssen injured..
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Ok la leeds and Leicester... Efl cup he still can play
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Feb 5 2023, 12:32 AM)
dayum....... among so many ppl,  why Case
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He gt the the most rest before our match with barca now... Lol.. try to be positive
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Leeds double header.

Then it's either the Europa against Barca or PL game against Leicester.
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i scare now, still got 20 minutes, we down to 10 men
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Feb 5 2023, 12:34 AM)
Ok la leeds and Leicester... Efl cup he still can play
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I think not many players know hold hand on neck sure red. Last time pogba also simply hold aje. Casemiro reaction like apa jadi?

Crap la. 2-1 ni
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Kelong... Haiz... Stupid red card lol
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Red card for that? That’s an absurd decision.
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Need to sub in lindelof or sabitzer to close off the game
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Get Anthony out, sabitzer in
Play 2 upfront

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Get Anthony out, sabitzer in
Play 2 upfront
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No one can stop their wings if like this... 2v1 usually awb will gg lol
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Even if his hand position was just to hold the opposition, it can be easily be manipulated like he was choking him... apa la case buat noob mistake..
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Feb 5 2023, 12:39 AM)
No one can stop their wings if like this... 2v1 usually awb will gg lol
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We play like small kids now... Lol... Make Cp looks like barca now... Haiz... Hopefully casemiro dont out more than 3 matches
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Sabitzer debut in awkward moment... Lol
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lindelof / maguire in...
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Martinez is really butcher….
Amazing performance
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Martinez is really butcher….
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Haix Maguire pls dont do stupid thing
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Fking 7 mins
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Haix Maguire pls dont do stupid thing
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Saf showing pool result to his friend hehe
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Feb 5 2023, 12:52 AM)
Ada maguire tak payah takut. Master defender in last 10 mins
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Sabitzer looks hungry and aggresive... unfortunate debut time.. but kudos to martinez and shaw..
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already 10++ dafuk ref
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Good one.. glad we see through it... We should have won comfortably this game... Not defending like relegation team... Stupid red card haiz
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Fuhhh... a good fight. Nasib baik menang. If not for sure Casemiro kena teruk,
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How the game goes to 8th min
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How the game goes to 8th min
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Thank god we survived. Case's RC almost cost us the match sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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oh case.....what the f is wrong with this ref, how on earth is that a red card....


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Mental 20+7 mins...
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 5 2023, 01:02 AM)
oh case.....what the f is wrong with this ref, how on earth is that a red card....
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You just can't put your both hands on your opponent's neck. You just can't.
This is fully on him. Full stop.

The moment VAR asked the ref to look at the monitor, already see the RC coming.

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How the game goes to 8th min
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That spinmaster needs a scolding. Always cari pasal
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For us who hope Casemiro can get a rest, he can now.
Not even sure good or bad.

Do some fans miss McTom now?
Seems like really need Lindelof to play as DM now, as McTom is injured.
Fred is not a DM for sure.

I know some fans will say Sabitzer can play DM.
But he just joined, let's see if Ten Hag will play him.
Either Lindelof or him, not Fred please.

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Leeds and Leicester should be game that we can get points... Sabitzer and fred pls perform well.... If mctom cant make it back... Our midfield sub shud be mainoo saje.. lol...
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Feb 5 2023, 01:04 AM)
That spinmaster needs a scolding. Always cari pasal
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Tried to get the opponent into troubles, end up doing it to his own teammates / team doh.gif

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 5 2023, 01:02 AM)
oh case.....what the f is wrong with this ref, how on earth is that a red card....
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Case can push or use his body to ram at Hughes but once your hand on opponent neck, straight red. 3 matches min spending, FA can add further 2 to 3 matches for violent conduct if they want
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Feb 5 2023, 01:04 AM)
For us who hope Casemiro can get a rest, he can now.
Not even sure good or bad.

Do some fans miss McTom now?
Seems like really need Lindelof to play as DM now, as McTom is injured.
Fred is not a DM for sure.
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Most probably sabitzer and mctom/fred already... The best midfield option for now... Eth wont wan mcfred combo again...
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Feb 5 2023, 01:04 AM)
For us who hope Casemiro can get a rest, he can now.
Not even sure good or bad.

Do some fans miss McTom now?
Seems like really need Lindelof to play as DM now, as McTom is injured.
Fred is not a DM for sure.
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Sabitzer can be makeshift DM with Fred alongside.
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Why was this not looked at huh? The fucking refereeing in this league idk what to say larh. And the guy so casually let the time pass after the 7th added minute.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Feb 5 2023, 01:06 AM)
Case can push or use his body to ram at Hughes but once your hand on opponent neck, straight red. 3 matches min spending, FA can add further 2 to 3 matches for violent conduct if they want
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When i saw the replay, there's no doubt in my mid it will be a red card.
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To be fair, that guy who gave us the first goal is shorter than Case & standing at lower ground & seemingly aggressive to cause some trouble.

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Feb 5 2023, 01:06 AM)
Case can push or use his body to ram at Hughes but once your hand on opponent neck, straight red. 3 matches min spending, FA can add further 2 to 3 matches for violent conduct if they want
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Based on his face expression, I don't see that is a violent conduct that need to add further match ban.
Even Xhaka didn't get added further, I really don't see Casemiro will get it.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Feb 5 2023, 01:07 AM)
Sabitzer can be makeshift DM with Fred alongside.
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Lindelof sabitzer combo maybe... Prefer fred to be impact sub...
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Feb 5 2023, 01:09 AM)
Based on his face expression, I don't see that is a violent conduct that need to add further match ban.
Even Xhaka didn't get added further, I really don't see Casemiro will get it.
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I can also say base on his face expression, he was really scared of casemiro
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Feb 5 2023, 01:10 AM)
Lindelof sabitzer combo maybe... Prefer fred to be impact sub...
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No mct pls, at least not in starting line up
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VAR few bits frame replay make it looks bad. Watching from the back it’s 1 hand below the neck, the other grabbing the shirt. Hughes wasn’t even reacting to it and just walked away approaching another player

VAR for the ref needs to be from multiple angle, but usually they played the worse frames πŸ˜…πŸ˜…

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Feb 5 2023, 01:11 AM)
I can also say base on his face expression, he was really scared of casemiro
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I mean Casimero face expression.
If he showing strong face expression, then might be further ban.
I don't see it, he calm saja.
Opponent player also didn't become actor, fell down & roll x 3.
Thus I don't see further ban here.
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no no dont put mcsauce, he has tunnel vision while defending

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