usually the uncertain,unpredictable,no proven success method type of venture which will give the highest gains example just look at the ipod..........

Thanks

Anyone interested in this investment?Maybe one of you guys could be my business partner.If you guys thinking of starting it,we could share our knowledge or something.And I know someone who could supply the trees. (I'm not a supplier)

This post has been edited by amirbashah: Oct 18 2007, 05:54 AM

Researcher from MINT? I met a few of them before but I cant seems to be able to remember their name. Yup, I think the method that he mentioned to you is the one we are collaborating in. It involves drilling the tree and apply some "miracle drug" in it.

I am actually from the research division of the Sabah Forestry Department.

Amir is quite persistent, so go ahead & please get as much info in your new venture - my sincere advise 'discuss & get advise from your best friends' - the famous quote is 'success is created & a bit of luck'

Generally our researchers most of them are laid back and not intrested to dirty their hand find ways to improvise farmers/planters life rather depend on other researchers [foreigners] presenting their finding and we 'evaluate' them and post questions to challange their findings. Taking cue from Prof HAssan [Prof GAmat].

Thailand is far ahead of us - they are running, but our researchers are crawling - Sorry dude.

Amir you could PM/email me

This post has been edited by mohis: Oct 19 2007, 10:47 AM

http://www.fotolog.com/aquilaria/23667130


Looking from these pictures, I think you're goin to have tough competition from Thai growers.

This post has been edited by cherasbabe: Oct 20 2007, 01:19 PM

I thought you're in Semenanjung If you do come here, do PM me ok? Maybe we could have a drink and discuss on this topic.

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Added on October 20, 2007, 7:35 amAre you interested?I'll start buying and planting the trees in early 2008 because currently I don't have the capital.
I just got a job as a PTD officer and I won't be getting my salary until February.

This post has been edited by amirbashah: Oct 20 2007, 07:35 AM

what kind of land is suitable for this tree? is there any bug that attack this type tree? dont want to invest in this tree then find all of it die.

This post has been edited by robertngo: Oct 21 2007, 05:54 PM

It's a forest tree and no need to take care of it often.

haha the investment schemes people can think of nowadays.

look at this!
(picture taken from kickdefella blog)

Dopu tree is the same as Agarwood, if I'm not mistaken.

How much does it takes to do these kinda business ... i think timber is quite a big business not sure if its profitable ... If successful the pay off should be good high risk high return ...

if timber is not profitable then there shall be no timber business, no corruption in timber biz bla bla bla..

u ask small children also they know tokey balak..banyak wang...

about gaharu, it is becoz
1. it is new to us so we dunno the real potential.
2. our food/agriculture/timber technology is way behind thailand.
3. nobody who has venture in this biz willing to share..

but from here say it is very potential.
got 2 output, 1. gaharu, 2. oad oil

my bro inlaw last time produce oud oil and he can sell it to dubai customer for usd250/quater tola (quater tola is about the same size as the small perfume tester bottle).

The only problem is the supply of the dopu/gaharu tree to produce the oil (it involve distillation)

so if u can plant the trees u can produce 2 output.

Just bought the trees (Aquilaria Malaccensis), but still small though.RM5 each. Bought only 10 trees (No money) in Damansara.

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Added on October 24, 2007, 6:42 amGot this infrormation from Jasben Plantation:

Anggaran Kos Permulaan Penanaman (Kelantan) bagi Seekar Tanah


1)Membersih tanah- RM500.00

2)Anak Pokok 10 Bulan (RM5.00 x 430 pokok)- RM2150.00

3)Baja C.I.R.P (RM0.50 x 430 ketul)- RM215.00

4)Kos penanaman (RM1.00 x 430 pokok)- RM430.00

5)Sistem siraman (anggaran polypaip untuk seekar)- RM3500.00

6)Kayu penegak / buluh (RM0.50 x 430 batang)- RM215.00

JUMLAH- RM7,010.00


Anggaran Kos untuk 7 tahun Seekar Tanah


1)Kos penanaman awal- RM7,010.00

2)Pembajaan C.I.R.P (3 x 3 tahun x RM0.50 x 430 pokok)- RM1,935.00

3)Penjagaan / pembersihan kawasan (RM 200 x 7 tahun)- RM1,400.00

4)Kos suntikan/ inducement pada tahun ke - 5 (RM50 x 430 pokok)- RM21,500.00

5)Kos penebangan pokok dan kutipan hasi- RMl3,500.00

6)Lain-lain kos (pagar / jagaan dsbnya)- RM5000.00

JUMLAH- RM41,345.00


GAHARU - Anggaran Hasil

Anggaran hasil minimun RM 1,000.00 sepokok.

Seekar (430 pokok)

- 100% RM 430,000.00

- 80% RM 344,000.00

- 50% RM 215,000.00



This post has been edited by amirbashah: Oct 24 2007, 06:42 AM

bro, may i know where did you find those infos on the starting cost ?

From this website http://www.jasbenplantation.cjb.net/ or try this one http://www.jasbenplantation.com
There's a lot of information on gaharu in these websites. Unfortunately the website is in Malay and English version is not available.

Pricing on Agarwood

Jadual Gred di Pasaran

Buat masa ini tiada gred yang seragam dan selalunya berbeza mengikut negeri. Berikut adalah gred yang dikeluarkan oleh JPSM dalam Bengkel Penyeragaman Penggredan Gaharu di Semenanjung Malaysia pada awal bulan Jun 2007 yang lalu di Kuala Lipis Pahang.

Harga (perkilogram)/ Price (perkilogram)

Gred Super A-RM 25,000 ke atas

Gred A-RM 20,000

Gred B-RM 18,000

Gred C-RM 15,000

Gred D-RM 8,000

Gred E-RM 3,000

Lain-lain Gred-RM 500 - RM 1,000

Gred Kayu untuk Minyak-RM 5 - RM 100

Minyak Gaharu-RM 300 - RM 350/ tola (12gm)


Wow waa wee waa.......(Borat)

This post has been edited by amirbashah: Oct 25 2007, 09:23 AM

Hello amir, saya suka dikenali sebagai wangmali............teruskan niat saudara tu untuk menanam pokok gaharu...dan saya pun baru je selesai tanam seluas 4 ekar........sekarang ade lagi tanah kosong 5 ekar dan 30 ekar. yang 5 ekar ni sya nak buka kepada pelabur yang berminat.........semuanye saya uruskan.....portion pelabur 70% k sikitami tuan tanah 30%.........

Lokasi tanaman : Daerah Kluang, Johor.

Satu lagi projek ialah 30 ekar.....saya nak buat sistem ladang...............semua pokok gaharu saya guna benih vietnam....projek 30 ekar ni saya share ngan syarikat GLC 50/50

Kalau En. Amir dan kawan2 masih ingin melabur lagi...........boleh la contact saya ........012 7997821

Hasilnya lumayan.......apa salahnye kita kongsi.......harapan saya ialah nak buktikan yang tanaman ni menguntungkan.

En. Amir tak yah dengar cakap2 negatif diaorg tu......diaorang asyik buat research je tapi belum tanam lagi....dan belum tahu teknologi terkini.....yang boleh menghasilkan resin yang berkualiti..........

Kalau di thailand...........lagi pelik............lepas 4 tahun dah ambik hasil.......suntikan vaksin memang terbukti....
Syarikat thailand ni dah lama business......bukak la web www.agarharvest.com .....

sekarang ni jabatan hutan kita pun ade hantar org kat vietnam utk study lagi.

So.....saya harap en.amir teruskan usaha tersebut dan kalau ade info2 yang baik email je kat saya azam_gx@yahoo.com .

saya pun baru je lagi

satu lagi ....en. amir ade tak proposal dan costing yang lengkap.....klu boleh bagi saya.....sebab nak wat presentation la kat.....funder................

kalau boleh kita jumpa.....lagi bagus dapat gak belajar lagi

ok........selamat maju jaya.

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Added on December 21, 2007, 2:12 pmSatu lagi en. amir.............boleh u bagi contact supllier untuk benih vietnam,baja CRIP dan Vaksin untuk suntikkan tu......saya tengok awknye murah la.................saya guna org tengah,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,klu leh direct kan ke jimat kos......
nanti jumpa kita minum kopi la.........kautim,,,,,,,,,,,hehehehehe

Satu lagi contact no. en. amir

This post has been edited by wangmali: Dec 21 2007, 02:12 PM

wangmali respek bro., saya masih tunggu approval tanah di perak ni, boleh message saya no bro tak?

tkasih

very interesting form of investment

A'kum Encik Wang Mali.Saya dah lama tak check thread ni,tak sangka ada lagi.Banyak jugak pokok yang encik nak tanam.4 ekar tambah lagi 30 ekar akan datang.Saya buat masa sekarang tak start tanam lagi.Cuma beli anak pokok dan biar kat rumah.Baru ada 20 pokok dan akan tambah lagi lepas dapat gaji pertama.Pasal nak tanam kat tanah tu tak tahu bila sebab tanah masih semak,belum clear.Jadi kena upah orang bersihkan dulu dan tanah saya ada dalam 7 ekar tapi plan nak tanam dalam 4 ekar.Pasal nak tanam besar-besaran ni,nanti dulu rasanya tapi saya ada terfikir untuk meminjam tanah dari kerajaan atau menyewa dari orang lain.Tapi kalau nak tanam 30 ekar tu saya tak pasti lagi dan masih ada risikonya.Pasal baja,anak pokok dan lain2 tu,encik boleh check Jasben Plantation.Saya beli anak pokok kat sana.Baja dia 30sen seketul tapi suntikan tu saya tak tahu lagi.Harap boleh jumpa encik dan berbincang pasal gaharu.

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Added on December 26, 2007, 10:17 amBoleh tahu macam mana u apply nak dapat tanah?Dari jabatan mana nak apply?

This post has been edited by amirbashah: Dec 26 2007, 10:17 AM