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 BMW LCI G20 320i vs 330i vs 330e, BMW LCI G20

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post Jan 18 2023, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(4WD_er @ Jan 18 2023, 09:35 AM)
The price difference you pay between 330e and 330i will all be balanced up by the time you want to sell the car.  Meaning the 20k saving on 330e will take a hit when resale.  It's just the timing difference, if you pay more now, you get more in future.  If you pay less now (for 330e), you get a lot less when resale.

For e.g.

330i, bought 304k, after 5 years sold for say 154k, you lose 150k

330e bought for 283k, after 5 years sold for say 130k, you lose 153k

Of course the time value of money or the interest cost is not covered in the above example.
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good point, I didn't consider that, I will need to take into consideration all these factors

The BMW easydrive option offer the 330e after 5 years is 101.8k only . Lower than your estimates
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post Jan 18 2023, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(4WD_er @ Jan 18 2023, 09:35 AM)
The price difference you pay between 330e and 330i will all be balanced up by the time you want to sell the car.  Meaning the 20k saving on 330e will take a hit when resale.  It's just the timing difference, if you pay more now, you get more in future.  If you pay less now (for 330e), you get a lot less when resale.

For e.g.

330i, bought 304k, after 5 years sold for say 154k, you lose 150k

330e bought for 283k, after 5 years sold for say 130k, you lose 153k

Of course the time value of money or the interest cost is not covered in the above example.
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are u fortune teller. how come so accurate one
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post Jan 18 2023, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Jan 18 2023, 01:47 PM)
are u fortune teller. how come so accurate one
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Haha just guessing work. I am a former user of hybrid car, so I know how bad the resale value is. Basically any hybrid car that is not Toyota or Honda, resale value horrible.

My insurance agent friend ditched his G10 530e at low price, and bought a 320 or 330 Li instead. He said the hassle from the hybrid system is not worth the time he has to endure without having a car to use while claiming for parts / issues.
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post Jan 19 2023, 02:04 PM

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Since the suspension and everything else except power and speakers are the same between 320i and 330i, I would take the 330i.

If the 320i came with comfort suspension instead of M Sport suspension, I would 100% take 320i lol.
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post Jan 20 2023, 12:00 AM

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For 270k+, 320i is just too slow. Just get the 330i if you are already gonna spend this amount of money.

Otherwise, there are other options like the Arteon.
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post Jan 20 2023, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(chriscym @ Jan 18 2023, 12:08 AM)
i agree, different almost 30k between 320i and 330i, seems cant really justify it. 320i i suppose can also return the ECU to offer the same performance since the engine is the same. Then the balance probably can get an aftermarket hifi speaker
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The B48 engine on 320i (B48B20M1) & 330i (B48B20O1) are different (Pistons & Compressions Ratio), same case like N20 engine (20i & 28i)

Yes you can remap the engine after the warranty is expired, mine 520i tuned to Stage2+ with TCU...really superb

Concerned on M Sport fitted suspensions as most of the journalists critics on lack of Adaptive Suspensions on 330i models as the 330i ride is harsh especially on bad road surface

This post has been edited by samwan_sambadi: Jan 20 2023, 12:14 AM
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post Jan 20 2023, 05:11 AM

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QUOTE(chriscym @ Jan 16 2023, 11:53 PM)
Active safety there is AEB, while the rest are just warnings.

I dont drive too fast everyday, but I appreciate better speaker system in the 330i.
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The 330i sound system despite 10 speaker is horrible. Lack of bass and clarity, sound so soft have to turn up the volume quite high just to listen..

My ford and peugeot audio sounds way better than my 330li. Not sure how bmw made it so bad, hence u so many g20 owners change to the bowers & wilkins speakers

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jan 17 2023, 09:28 AM)
I will wait for the 320Li long wheel base model, heard a lot of good feedback. As BMW 3 series is getting bigger & bigger each generation, it is more suit moving into luxury/comfort range.
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We are not getting the 320Li. Only 330Li. The 320Li is manufactured here but only for export market
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post Jan 20 2023, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 20 2023, 06:16 AM)
We are not getting the 320Li. Only 330Li. The 320Li is manufactured here but only for export market
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That why i mentioned wait.. brows.gif Got insider news from BMW SA but not too soon yet..
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post Jan 20 2023, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(samwan_sambadi @ Jan 20 2023, 12:08 AM)
The B48 engine on 320i (B48B20M1) & 330i (B48B20O1) are different (Pistons & Compressions Ratio), same case like N20 engine (20i & 28i)

Yes you can remap the engine after the warranty is expired, mine 520i tuned to Stage2+ with TCU...really superb

Concerned on M Sport fitted suspensions as most of the journalists critics on lack of Adaptive Suspensions on 330i models as the 330i ride is harsh especially on bad road surface
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Do you actually switch the drive mode often to soften the dampers?
EDC another source of headache

After awhile you get used to the firmness
Critics test drive short period write review, sure comment etc...else nothing to post

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post Jan 20 2023, 03:56 PM

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I personally find the G20 M Sport suspension to be very firm but within my tolerance level.
My other car E90 325i LCI M Sport suspension was even more firm than the G20 330i while I often scrape the underneath when going over higher speed bumps due to it's low ride height.

This post has been edited by Yapmy: Jan 21 2023, 11:38 AM
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post Jan 20 2023, 03:59 PM

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Just stick with 320i. Same engine nanti remap. Bbk change brembo 2 pot also 5k onli lah


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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jan 20 2023, 12:03 PM)
That why i mentioned wait..  brows.gif Got insider news from BMW SA but not too soon yet..
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They will launch the 330Li and M340i in March. The 320Li LCI spotted on trailers earliers is meant to be for Thai use
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post Jan 21 2023, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(fookyuan @ Jan 20 2023, 12:17 PM)
Do you actually switch the drive mode often to soften the dampers?
EDC another source of headache

After awhile you get used to the firmness
Critics test drive short period write review, sure comment etc...else nothing to post
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Sometimes i switch from Comfort to Sport whenever i cornering in high speed, rarely use Comfort+ unless the road conditions is not smooth

EDC per shock is estimated RM3,647 at SC & RM 2,800 at outside (Specialist Workshop)...parts price may diff as of today
4 pair change with labour around RM14k

Or you can retrofit with ST / KW suspensions and disable the EDC module (RM9k starting price for ST)

Or you go to Reiber Auto for EDC shock absorber reconditioning

EDC was my least concern, compared with Timing Chain Guide parts, rear EPB & Turbocharger unit

This post has been edited by samwan_sambadi: Jan 21 2023, 02:01 AM
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post Jan 25 2023, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(samwan_sambadi @ Jan 21 2023, 02:56 AM)
Sometimes i switch from Comfort to Sport whenever i cornering in high speed, rarely use Comfort+ unless the road conditions is not smooth

EDC per shock is estimated RM3,647 at SC & RM 2,800 at outside (Specialist Workshop)...parts price may diff as of today
4 pair change with labour around RM14k

Or you can retrofit with ST / KW suspensions and disable the EDC module (RM9k starting price for ST)

Or you go to Reiber Auto for EDC shock absorber reconditioning

EDC was my least concern, compared with Timing Chain Guide parts, rear EPB & Turbocharger unit
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B series engine not that worried for the timing chain guides parts as compared to N series.

The latest information i gathered from my mechanic is that B series got coolant or water level keep going low even during warranty period and need to top up time to time. Warranty claimed from owners feedback turbo coolant pipe leaking to EGR internal coolant leak, some even did not manage to claim anything even going thru pressure test etc.. doh.gif

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post Jan 25 2023, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jan 25 2023, 09:04 AM)
B series engine not that worried for the timing chain guides parts as compared to N series.

The latest information i gathered from my mechanic is that B series got coolant or water level keep going low even during warranty period and need to top up time to time. Warranty claimed from owners feedback turbo coolant pipe leaking to EGR internal coolant leak, some even did not manage to claim anything even going thru pressure test etc..  doh.gif
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b 系列漏水不漏油
my fren told me tis enjin leak water, no leak oils
own experience is turbo there obvious wet mark. leak until coolant finish.
replaced 4 digit 2nd hand parts.
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post Jan 26 2023, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 20 2023, 05:11 AM)
The 330i sound system despite 10 speaker is horrible. Lack of bass and clarity, sound so soft have to turn up the volume quite high just to listen..

My ford and peugeot audio sounds way better than my 330li. Not sure how bmw made it so bad, hence u so many g20 owners change to the bowers & wilkins speakers
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aftermarket B&W for G20? good to know its an option.
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post Jan 26 2023, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(chriscym @ Jan 26 2023, 12:17 PM)
aftermarket B&W for G20? good to know its an option.
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Very very costly though..

https://www.aktivtuning.com/collections/aud...em-retrofit-g2x
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post Jan 26 2023, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 26 2023, 12:19 PM)
I wonder if that will void the car's warranty. 5k, is about the price for B&W. Their headphones is 2k onwards, so 5k is about just about right price.
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QUOTE(chriscym @ Jan 26 2023, 12:24 PM)
I wonder if that will void the car's warranty. 5k, is about the price for B&W. Their headphones is 2k onwards, so 5k is about just about right price.
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That 5k is just to replace the speakers, theres also the RAM module, subwoofer, amplifiers . Looking at over 25k for a full set

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