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 BMW LCI G20 320i vs 330i vs 330e, BMW LCI G20

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TSchriscym
post Jan 16 2023, 08:02 PM, updated 2w ago

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Wanted to ask your opinion , if its worth to get the following since the all the LCI variant comes with M performance package. I wanted to the 330i but this LCI is hard to justify the additional money to pay it considering the 320i and 330i now both M performance.

320i (283k) : looks the same with 330i, no blue brake calipers, 6 speaker
330i (317k): bigger power, 10 speakers system (update : March 2023 now comes with M Adaptive Suspension , RM2000 price increase to 319k)
330e (298k) : cheaper but heavier with less boot space, low resale value

This post has been edited by chriscym: Mar 20 2023, 03:10 PM
ktek
post Jan 16 2023, 09:56 PM

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how fast u go everyday.
330i no additional safety meh
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post Jan 16 2023, 11:41 PM

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They r M Sports
Not M Performance

If u ask me I will take either 320i or 330e
TSchriscym
post Jan 16 2023, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(jasonlim @ Jan 16 2023, 11:41 PM)
They r M Sports
Not M Performance

If u ask me I will take either 320i or 330e
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why 320i and not 330i? and why 330e? I am curious
TSchriscym
post Jan 16 2023, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Jan 16 2023, 09:56 PM)
how fast u go everyday.
330i no additional safety meh
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Active safety there is AEB, while the rest are just warnings.

I dont drive too fast everyday, but I appreciate better speaker system in the 330i.
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post Jan 16 2023, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(chriscym @ Jan 16 2023, 11:51 PM)
why 320i and not 330i? and why 330e? I am curious
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Bcoz 330i is expensive?

Pay lesser for 330e but more powerful than 330i
N 330e has adaptive suspension
TSchriscym
post Jan 17 2023, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(jasonlim @ Jan 16 2023, 11:57 PM)
Bcoz 330i is expensive?

Pay lesser for 330e but more powerful than 330i
N 330e has adaptive suspension
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yes the adaptive suspension is something on the plus side and also its cheaper, but there are many catch to make the full use of the 330e for example it has to be charged everyday, it is heavier, its fuel tank is 40 litters only, and has bad resale value, higher maintenance cost for the battery module, lesser boot space. Otherwise it is great car.

Fuel is not an issue for me as my company pay for my fuel, 320i technically is sufficient power for my everyday use, but 330 series feels more superior, a proper sports sedan with over 200 hp.
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post Jan 17 2023, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(chriscym @ Jan 17 2023, 12:44 AM)
yes the adaptive suspension is something on the plus side and also its cheaper, but there are many catch to make the full use of the 330e for example it has to be charged everyday, it is heavier, its fuel tank is 40 litters only, and has bad resale value, higher maintenance cost for the battery module, lesser boot space. Otherwise it is great car.

Fuel is not an issue for me as my company pay for my fuel, 320i technically is sufficient power for my everyday use, but 330 series feels more superior, a proper sports sedan with over 200 hp.
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It is almost zero maintenance for the battery pack. Only software update as required during normal service. Maybe every 5 years or so, replace the coolant, it is separate tank from the engine coolant.

40L tank should be good for 600km+. My PHEV comes with 60L tank, and done 760km with about 7L of fuel left (full charge start of trip, then mostly highway holding the battery level at 50% and never charge again). Even if you don't charge, PHEV experience is still better the usual full hybrid. You can last way longer with electric mode in idle wait, and engine only rev little when charging the battery. Full hybrid is very noisy when charging at idle, because the tiny engine tends to rev until near mid range rpm to charge the battery.

Not going to worry of resell value, we don't know the future demand. It is supply vs demand, and the demand trend is changing, will definitely shift when the post 00's generation dominate the used car market.

Even the 90's in my workplace, while using passed down car from the family or some better doing got new Myvi/Vios. Those are not their own choice. They've been looking at XC40, CLA, Mini, or at least a Mazda SUV etc. Totally unlikely they going to buy a used so call "popular high RV choice" that older generation think B/C segment Japanese. They gotta keep driving current car until they can afford what they truly want.

Only real downside for me is the weight balance that affect handling. If you not the touge person, it has very little influence on daily commute.

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post Jan 17 2023, 09:12 AM

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Just bite the bullet and take the 330i la, you won't regret it.
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post Jan 17 2023, 09:19 AM

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Recently drove a family member's 330i for a road trip. Surprisingly punchy even with full load. For daily usage I believe you would not be regretting it.
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post Jan 17 2023, 09:28 AM

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I will wait for the 320Li long wheel base model, heard a lot of good feedback. As BMW 3 series is getting bigger & bigger each generation, it is more suit moving into luxury/comfort range.

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post Jan 17 2023, 10:02 AM

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I would take the 330i M-sport, anytime.

No hybrids for me, would avoid the 330e.
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post Jan 17 2023, 10:36 AM

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differ 34k can install what speaker as good as 330i
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post Jan 17 2023, 04:40 PM

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Among the 3 variants, I would 100% take the 330i M Sport. The extra power is already worth the premium.
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post Jan 17 2023, 10:18 PM

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is there any brand remark on 10 speaker system.
becos germany audio tuning kungfu not really suits ppl taste here
TSchriscym
post Jan 18 2023, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Jan 17 2023, 10:18 PM)
is there any brand remark on 10 speaker system.
becos germany audio tuning kungfu not really suits ppl taste here
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i agree, different almost 30k between 320i and 330i, seems cant really justify it. 320i i suppose can also return the ECU to offer the same performance since the engine is the same. Then the balance probably can get an aftermarket hifi speaker
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post Jan 18 2023, 12:19 AM

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Just to add that I have 4% corporate rate discount for the net selling price (exclude handling fee and road tax). I find that the 330e is the most discounted model among these 3. After calculation estimate with the extended warranty
330e = 285k
330i = 304k
320i = 271k

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post Jan 18 2023, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(chriscym @ Jan 17 2023, 12:44 AM)
yes the adaptive suspension is something on the plus side and also its cheaper, but there are many catch to make the full use of the 330e for example it has to be charged everyday, it is heavier, its fuel tank is 40 litters only, and has bad resale value, higher maintenance cost for the battery module, lesser boot space. Otherwise it is great car.

Fuel is not an issue for me as my company pay for my fuel, 320i technically is sufficient power for my everyday use, but 330 series feels more superior, a proper sports sedan with over 200 hp.
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Short distance u can use EV otherwise combined
40 liter full can easily go up to 520km

The regenerative braking can help to charge the battery as u move

Battery replacement cost will be covered during the 8 yrs warranty

Of course if fuel and money is not an issue for u, go for 330i
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post Jan 18 2023, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(chriscym @ Jan 18 2023, 01:08 AM)
i agree, different almost 30k between 320i and 330i, seems cant really justify it. 320i i suppose can also return the ECU to offer the same performance since the engine is the same. Then the balance probably can get an aftermarket hifi speaker
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Engine the same, but if not mistaken the intake manifold, ECU, cooling system got different. If want to mod/upgrade it can be done at a lower cost, but if aftermarket modders mostly got some side effects and not all will got happy ending.

I knew 1 BMW owner which done the same thing upgrade, but he lost an engine (ECU remapping done wrong) and also the spark plugs seems not able to last long (Every 30~40k will start misfiring) even with performance plug/coil upgraded. In the end he regretted why not direct buy the higher range model.. laugh.gif Now he consider selling it to exchange for Toyota Alphad/Vellfire.. Out of the days of modifying and become a family man.. tongue.gif

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post Jan 18 2023, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(chriscym @ Jan 18 2023, 12:19 AM)
Just to add that I have 4% corporate rate discount for the net selling price (exclude handling fee and road tax). I find that the 330e is the most discounted model among these 3. After calculation estimate with the extended warranty
330e = 283k
330i = 304k
320i = 269k
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The price difference you pay between 330e and 330i will all be balanced up by the time you want to sell the car. Meaning the 20k saving on 330e will take a hit when resale. It's just the timing difference, if you pay more now, you get more in future. If you pay less now (for 330e), you get a lot less when resale.

For e.g.

330i, bought 304k, after 5 years sold for say 154k, you lose 150k

330e bought for 283k, after 5 years sold for say 130k, you lose 153k

Of course the time value of money or the interest cost is not covered in the above example.

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