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 Mid-high end Tv Recomenndation, TV selection dilemma

Which Tv will you choose for long term?
 
LG OLED C2 - 65 inch [ 12 ] ** [32.43%]
SONY OLED A80K - 65 inch [ 23 ] ** [62.16%]
SAMSUNG QLED(MINI LED) QN95B - 65 inch [ 2 ] ** [5.41%]
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TSvin6
post Jan 3 2023, 03:31 PM, updated 3y ago

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Hi Guys,

Between these selection if pricing almost the same PRICING which tv will you choose and please help me state why?

Usage 50% PS5 and 50% movies ( i don't watch astro unless for FOOTBALL only).


1. LG OLED C2 - 65 inch - for OLED i only scare burn in after 3-5 years used and dead pixels

2. SONY OLED A80K - 65 inch - for OLED i only scare burn in after 3-5 years used and dead pixel

3. SAMSUNG QLED(MINI LED) QN95B - 65 inch - Samsung no Dolby vision - is it a problem?


help me choose please. Give me some certainty .


PS: if you got other selection please let me know also and i would be replacing a 10 YEAR OLD LG LED TV.

This post has been edited by vin6: Jan 3 2023, 03:46 PM
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post Jan 3 2023, 03:45 PM

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Modern OLEDs won't burn in that easily, unless you like to stare at a static screen for 24 hours everyday. If that's your TV watching habit, I think you should not get a TV, but get help instead.

Dead pixels can occur to any display, doesn't matter if it's OLED or LCD. My 3 year old C9 has zero burn-in but close to about 100 dead pixels at the edges of the screen, which is normal.

I'll always go for OLED because I can't stand blooming, which the QN95B still exhibits despite moving to mini LED backlight. Dolby Vision is whatever, if you're just relying on DV from streaming services they aren't real DV anyways. Who cares.
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post Jan 3 2023, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 3 2023, 03:45 PM)
Modern OLEDs won't burn in that easily, unless you like to stare at a static screen for 24 hours everyday. If that's your TV watching habit, I think you should not get a TV, but get help instead.

Dead pixels can occur to any display, doesn't matter if it's OLED or LCD. My 3 year old C9 has zero burn-in but close to about 100 dead pixels at the edges of the screen, which is normal.

I'll always go for OLED because I can't stand blooming, which the QN95B still exhibits despite moving to mini LED backlight. Dolby Vision is whatever, if you're just relying on DV from streaming services they aren't real DV anyways. Who cares.
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Thanks for the feedback.... i saw a review regarding dead pixel kinda annoying but sitting around 12 ft away so i don't think can see.... As for blooming im coming from LED tech tv so not sure how im going to react on that.

Very pening oh.
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post Jan 3 2023, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(vin6 @ Jan 3 2023, 05:22 PM)
Thanks for the feedback....  i saw a review regarding dead pixel kinda annoying but sitting around 12 ft away so i don't think can see.... As for blooming im coming from LED tech tv so not sure how im going to react on that.

Very pening oh.
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My C9 is 77", I sit 7.5ft away from the screen. I can only notice the dead pixels on a full white screen, even then I have to squint to see it. 12ft? Whoever tells you they can see a dead pixel that far is lying through his ass cheeks.

It depends how you use your TV at the end of the day. If you're in a room with no control of light, then the LCD is better because it is brighter and backlight bleed is much more difficult to notice. If you're in a dark room, blooming is simply unavoidable, it's impossible to not notice it.
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post Jan 3 2023, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 3 2023, 05:38 PM)
My C9 is 77", I sit 7.5ft away from the screen. I can only notice the dead pixels on a full white screen, even then I have to squint to see it. 12ft? Whoever tells you they can see a dead pixel that far is lying through his ass cheeks.

It depends how you use your TV at the end of the day. If you're in a room with no control of light, then the LCD is better because it is brighter and backlight bleed is much more difficult to notice. If you're in a dark room, blooming is simply unavoidable, it's impossible to not notice it.
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Sorry to hijack this topic. Is sony A80j oled on par with C9. Saw some store sell 55 A80j around 5200-5500. A80k still not go down price. Been using C9 for PS5 and streaming.
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QUOTE(blaqkthespian @ Jan 3 2023, 07:28 PM)
Sorry to hijack this topic. Is sony A80j oled on par with C9. Saw some store sell 55 A80j around 5200-5500. A80k still not go down price. Been using C9 for PS5 and streaming.
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They trade blows. There are some things the A80J does better, some the C9 is still superior.

A80J has a more refined handling of above black (5% IRE) handling, meaning a little bit better detail and less flashing artifacts in dark shadow areas. But you trade that off for slightly lower HDR peak brightness, slightly higher input latency, and DV being useless on Sony TVs until today.

Why do you want to upgrade from your C9 though? Still a fine TV.
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post Jan 3 2023, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 3 2023, 07:41 PM)
They trade blows. There are some things the A80J does better, some the C9 is still superior.

A80J has a more refined handling of above black (5% IRE) handling, meaning a little bit better detail and less flashing artifacts in dark shadow areas. But you trade that off for slightly lower HDR peak brightness, slightly higher input latency, and DV being useless on Sony TVs until today.

Why do you want to upgrade from your C9 though? Still a fine TV.
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Thanks for your reply, appreciate it. Maybe save some money and go straight to QD Oled like S95b. Is QD oled live up to the hype ben?
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post Jan 3 2023, 09:37 PM

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Just make sure nits is 1000.
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post Jan 3 2023, 09:44 PM

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Now, the future is QD-OLED. You get both of the world in term of peak brightness and the darkest of dark. Check out Samsung S95B or Sony A95K where Sony will be the better one of both using the same QD-OLED. Price will be far fetching but for the best, you wont regret it.
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post Jan 3 2023, 10:21 PM

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So many ppl vote sony a80k.... Meaning this tv not bad.
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post Jan 3 2023, 10:34 PM

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Since u also will be using it for movies.. might as well add pana lz2000/1000 in the mix..
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QUOTE(blaqkthespian @ Jan 3 2023, 08:00 PM)
Thanks for your reply, appreciate it. Maybe save some money and go straight to QD Oled like S95b. Is QD oled live up to the hype ben?
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QD OLED is very promising, unfortunately the S95B and A95k at this moment only come in 55 and 65 inches. Not my cup of tea, perhaps this year when Samsung also launches a 77" then I may look at it deeper.

My biggest concern at this moment with QD OLED is color fringing and areas just above blacks being a little too grey. Samsung says they're going to improve that this year, so let's hope they hold true to their word.


QUOTE(vapanel @ Jan 3 2023, 09:37 PM)
Just make sure nits is 1000.
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1000 in what? Full field? 50%? 10%?

It's important to specify brightness based on content, because nits as a round number doesn't mean jack shit.
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post Jan 3 2023, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 3 2023, 10:44 PM)
QD OLED is very promising, unfortunately the S95B and A95k at this moment only come in 55 and 65 inches. Not my cup of tea, perhaps this  year when Samsung also launches a 77" then I may look at it deeper.

My biggest concern at this moment with QD OLED is color fringing and areas just above blacks being a little too grey. Samsung says they're going to improve that this year, so let's hope they hold true to their word.
1000 in what? Full field? 50%? 10%?

It's important to specify brightness based on content, because nits as a round number doesn't mean jack shit.
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Ok lo. 50% if possible.

What if your take?
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post Jan 3 2023, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Jan 3 2023, 10:48 PM)
Ok lo. 50% if possible.

What if your take?
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Good luck finding one in another multiverse maybe. No OLED TV will ever have 1000 nits at a 50% window.
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post Jan 3 2023, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 3 2023, 10:51 PM)
Good luck finding one in another multiverse maybe. No OLED TV will ever have 1000 nits at a 50% window.
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How about neo qled bro? I remember oled is bad for hdr

So better buy mini led
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Jan 3 2023, 10:53 PM)
How about neo qled bro? I remember oled is bad for hdr

So better buy mini led
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Recent OLEDs as far back as 2018 are certainly good for HDR. Whoever said it wasn't either have their TV in a room where sunlight in glaring off the screen or they're talking shit through a donkey's ass.

NEO QLED isn't a TV, it's just a moniker Samsung came up with for their LCD TVs. It doesn't mean anything without context. Their highest end "QLED" TV which are usually the Q9xx series employs the latest LED backlight tech today which is mini LED. They're not bad but as I've explained above, but still cannot eradicate blooming issues so personally I rule them out from my list since I watch movies in a pitch black room.
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QUOTE(vin6 @ Jan 3 2023, 03:31 PM)
Hi Guys,

Between these selection if pricing almost the same PRICING which tv will you choose and please help me state why?

Usage 50% PS5 and 50% movies ( i don't watch astro unless for FOOTBALL only).
1. LG OLED C2 - 65 inch - for OLED i only scare burn in after 3-5 years used and dead pixels

2. SONY OLED A80K - 65 inch - for OLED i only scare burn in after 3-5 years used and dead pixel

3. SAMSUNG QLED(MINI LED) QN95B - 65 inch - Samsung no Dolby vision - is it a problem?
help me choose please. Give me some certainty .
PS: if you got other selection please let me know also and i would be replacing a 10 YEAR OLD LG LED TV.
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Get samsung
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post Jan 3 2023, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(vin6 @ Jan 3 2023, 10:21 PM)
So many ppl vote sony a80k.... Meaning this tv not bad.
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The A80k is a good TV indeed - for movies.

But if you game, be aware that Sony OLEDs have this aggressive AF ASBL whenenver static content is on screen (HUDs, life bars, etc. in a game). Screen will dim, go back up in brightness, then dim again like an annoying prick. Of course you can disable ASBL in the factory menu, but most people aren't comfortable or know how to do it.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 3 2023, 10:44 PM)
QD OLED is very promising, unfortunately the S95B and A95k at this moment only come in 55 and 65 inches. Not my cup of tea, perhaps this  year when Samsung also launches a 77" then I may look at it deeper.

My biggest concern at this moment with QD OLED is color fringing and areas just above blacks being a little too grey. Samsung says they're going to improve that this year, so let's hope they hold true to their word.
1000 in what? Full field? 50%? 10%?

It's important to specify brightness based on content, because nits as a round number doesn't mean jack shit.
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https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subac...l&id=1672725658


QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 3 2023, 11:01 PM)
The A80k is a good TV indeed - for movies.

But if you game, be aware that Sony OLEDs have this aggressive AF ASBL whenenver static content is on screen (HUDs, life bars, etc. in a game). Screen will dim, go back up in brightness, then dim again like an annoying prick. Of course you can disable ASBL in the factory menu, but most people aren't comfortable or know how to do it.
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I've read that this is not possible at all in Sony OLEDs, only LG and Samsung OLEDs. the only way to get around the issue in Sony OLEDs is to avoid using High Peak Brightness in the settings

Do share if you came accross the method

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Jan 4 2023, 01:42 AM
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post Jan 4 2023, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 3 2023, 10:59 PM)
Recent OLEDs as far back as 2018 are certainly good for HDR. Whoever said it wasn't either have their TV in a room where sunlight in glaring off the screen or they're talking shit through a donkey's ass.

NEO QLED isn't a TV, it's just a moniker Samsung came up with for their LCD TVs. It doesn't mean anything without context. Their highest end "QLED" TV which are usually the Q9xx series employs the latest LED backlight tech today which is mini LED. They're not bad but as I've explained above, but still cannot eradicate blooming issues so personally I rule them out from my list since I watch movies in a pitch black room.
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so how?

perfect HDR with mini LED and longevity but with blooming

or lower HDR performance with perfect black but with questionable longevity due to burn in

which one will you choose?

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