Vivo X90 pro plus sets the bar for 2023 flagship



Specifications:-

https://m.gsmarena.com/vivo_x90_pro%2b-ampp-11979.php

Comparison with iPhone 14 pro max and Samsung S22 Ultra



Price: RM4648 12/256 CN set online seller.

Most worrying is 5G compatibility with Malaysian Telcos. I understand that Vivo releases new firmware very fast. But will it also include Malaysian 5G telco needed firmware upgrades ?

If concern on 5g then wait for Malaysia official set. Most probably will come next quarter. Malaysia official set shouldn't have any problem with 5g especially those Telco that offered vivo as their device plan.

I heard that only the mtk version x90 and x90 pro will come

X90P+ most likely china only, but fortunately band support is more than enough for our 5g support (unlike xiaomi cn model)

Interesting. Where is the reference mentioning that it has sufficient band support for Malaysia ? Unless someone has already tried it .....

I see the gsmarena spec sheet got

Or can see official website spec

Agree. IPhone no longer king of camera & video recording

if i recall correctly
none of the + version make it to MY

i am using x60 pro+
for the 5G, i tested with YES 5G, no issue

Try and use the built in camera in Instagram or FB. Android videos will always look crap if taken using the built in cam on Insta. On iphone, it looks the best.

iphone still have a edges for video recording

but camera wise already lose

mkbhd crown this phone as night king

that imba sensor...

Did you watch the review on the 3 phones ( Vivo X90 pro+, iPhone pro max, Samsung S22 Ultra ) which I quoted?

The reviewer says for video quality, iPhone did not do well in low light, but Vivo wins on video but
did not do well on the microphone .....

This post has been edited by tmc: Dec 29 2022, 07:48 PM

My X60 was very slow on YES 5G, when I was at Sg Wang on Tuesday.

Any setting I should be aware of?

He mentioned about X60 pro+ but you mentioned about X60 ..... Different phones, it would be chicken and duck.

For instagram, I always upload from gallery after taken from my cameras. Looks okay what.
If you look at alot influencers & celebs using iPhone to shoot their video & selfie, first thing you will noticed is the video is shaky as if the OIS & EIS on the iPhone is not working. This issue don't happen on flagship Android phones.

Yes if upload from gallery is fine. I am talking about directly recording using the built in camera. It always ends up blurry. Basically the apps are not optimized for android not matter how good the hardware

TMC was right, i am on + version
but showing you my test result anyway


heard this alot
not only vivo, other android phone also same

Yes not only vivo. All androids like that

Yup. Dunno why like that

Android has to support a variety of hardware, likely a generic API could not utilize the maximum hardware capability of the phone.

Android should come out with a set of API which allows programmer to utilise the maximum capability of the hardware, and I read that Android 13 is addressing this issue. In the mean time use the vendor provide camera app is the best workaround.

This phone should be around rm4599. Previous x80 pro also same price right ?

The cheapest I found is rm4531 12/256 and rm4636 12/512.

It is so much cheaper than other sellers, other sellers are selling around rm5359 for 12/256 and rm5499 for 12/512.

Wonder why such a big gap.

Right. My favorite seller is selling at rm4999. Omg.

Price on DaoBao:-

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Rm4174-4495.

Is there any import duty to shipment ?

Sure have tax bro. That's why shopee selling so expensive

you can try look at fast tech price list

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/...O7PSpY/htmlview

Wow. Why nowadays flagship even China brands so expensive ? I still remember my first flagship Samsung Note4 only rm2499.

I am confused.

This fast tech lim price on Vivo X90 pro plus on Lazada is the one who sells it as rm4531 for 12/256 and rm4636 for 12/512.

You mean the price indicated on Lazada is not net ? The buyers have to add 4.22% on top subsequently ?

This fast tech Lim got mark up price in lazada claiming when using the platform seller have to pay commission to them. The price listed in lazada already marked up.

Lol off topic probably I think too much. This fastech Lim I notice got some account keep doing a promotion for it. Last time I saw someone hardcore promote the store is in moto sub topic.

If u are confident in the seller can straight buy direct otherwise better through platform. So far I feel lazada is very friendly to consumer especially when there are any issue arise.

This post has been edited by wolf1991: Jan 3 2023, 08:08 PM

But the marked price from fast tech lim is only marginally higher by about rm 200 from Daobao, and it is so much cheaper than other sellers ( difference by one thousand ! )

Ic. I don't buy unofficial imported device due to claim tax deduction plus warranty purposes. I more prefer to deal direct with service centre as overall process faster.

So I no comment on whether fast tech Lim is cheap or not. Lol but this is just me. If you find the price is worth then just go ahead and buy.

Yes. Most probably you're right. Lazada got take commission

If one buys from Lazada or Shopee, the payment should be net. Unless the sellers cancel your order, and ask you to pay him directly via bank account.

Risky to bank in to their bank account directly.

Camera comparison :-

xiaomi 13 pro vs Huawei Mate 50 pro vs vivo X90 pro+



Xiaomi 13 pro is falling out in this comparison. Xiaomi need to quickly release a new ROM to catch up.

https://www.lowyat.net/2023/291762/vivo-x90...sirim-database/

Looks like again no X90Pro+ for Malaysia.....

Wow wow wow. Amazing 👏

If launch also, will it sell here?
RM4k for a flagship INB4 top up a bit get ipong

Did you look at the reviews? iPhone lose out in video and picture quality, especially at night.

I do find a lot review said x90 pro did better than fruit in still image but video recording still fruit better.

The only problem with this device is the pricing. If I remember correct x80 pro are launched around 4.9k++. I think x90 pro might be around that price or more expensive.

With such a pricing sure a lot consumer will say why not top up to get fruit. Somemore fruit are mostly offered with 0% interest free up to three years depending on credit card.

Anyhow the phone spec and performance seem nothing to complaint about. If budget is not an issue, this might be a good option.

Firstly, the X90 pro and X90 pro plus are VERY different phones. Your above keep referring to X90 pro, but I am referring to X90 pro plus. This thread is exclusively about pro+.

Secondly, iPhone video recording is not always better. Please show me a review which says that. Or talking about front camera only ? Front camera of china android phones seem stucked in a curse of 1080p. Cannot do 4k, what a shame !

When people say iPhone recording is better, they are referring to limitations of the Android apps such as Instagram. That is not a fair comparison.

Thirdly, X90 pro plus China set is already selling at around rm45xx , or you brave enough to take direct trading, it is Rm43xx ( rm 45xx minus Lazada platform fees ).

4.9k++, is it referring to the price if it ever launched in Malaysia? I think pro plus will not be launched in Malaysia.

No matter pro or pro plus, its the pricing. Volume for these devices will be low as phones nowadays can tahan long as long as you take very good care of it
Low demand how company make profit
Ipong different case as there will be high demand for it

Aside from pro, the pro plus is only china exclusive, if suddenly the phone gg within use, you will have a headache with the warranty since its oversea set, claim once wait few weeks, if problem again...
You buy ipong, warranty claim in any authorized apple service centre in malaysia

Ya the 4.9 I am referring to the possible price of x90 pro and not the pro+ since it is most likely not gonna launch here. No matter how, if pro plus not gonna officially launch here then the volume here will be very small.

The price for CN phone is lower than MY official set is because they manufacture there and no need go through sirim, import tax etc etc.

Like it or not whether the phone itself is good or not not really relevant if official set not available. For consumer they will think why I buy a CN set then without any after sales service.

It's a fact that buying CN set is harder to claim warranty or go for repair whenever there are issues with the device and that's why people don't like CN set. If during one year warranty provided by seller then still ok but the whole process might take a month just send to CN and back to Malaysia.

If after warranty period and any issues arise, then it will be difficult to send it to CN to repair as it involve shipping cost this and that. Even if someone want to repair locally also hard because no shop will order part for a low volume device. Even if they willing to do it then the charges will be very high.

Unless planning to change phone every year whenever warranty expired otherwise better think twice before going for CN set. Ask back yourself is it the saving worth the potential problem. Of course there are a lot of CN set user that are lucky and use few year also no issues but there are also those buying CN set and face a lot of problem.

I wonder why there are still a lot of sub forum trying to promote CN set, if saying about pixel then is understandable cos the base is much more bigger. Why go for CN set there are other similar alternative 😅

The camera really good 👍

Have I posted this ?

The days of iPhone being the king of cameras & video recording has come to an end. Sadly many fake & paid & lying celebs, influencers, youtubers still insists iPhone camera & 4K is the best. Even my dunno how many years old mi 11 ultra camera, ultrawide, zoom & 4K recording pawned any iPhone out there. True story.

Haha lucky there is already a pixel 7 thread, in there I found that people are saying that to get 5g, one needs to root the phone and then many other root sensitive apps will start to fail. In that case, pixel 7 or 7 pro is not worth it. Pixel 7 is a big "No".

Can't wait for the official Malaysia launch. Hopefully vivo will bring in the Pro +.

Not for me as well. Too much hassle 😅. But surprisingly the user base is much bigger than any other unofficial device in Malaysia.

Weird that our neighbor have it officially but not us. For those live in Johor and always go sg can just cross border and buy there.

It's good if they bring it in to provide more option to Malaysia consumer. Otherwise I think can just forget it, accessories, aftersales and community will be nonexistent if it's not officially available in Malaysia

If really can't wait for official set, shopee now selling rm4999

scalper set?

It is said that your order can be delivered to your house sealed in original packaging.

The seller sells many other China phone devices.

More likely not, since HK and Taiwan's Vivo launch last week only has the X90 and X90 Pro and India will be launching on 31 Jan.
So the Pro+ model is for China only at the moment.

Spec @ 12G+256G Taiwan RCP TWD27,888 & TWD34,888 (around RM4,000 & RM5,000 respectively)
Spec @ 12G+256G Hong Kong RCP HKD6,498 & HKD8,698 (RM3,600+ & RM4,800+ respectively)


So my conclusion, we'll be paying around these price points too.

Means need to buy CN set from shopee sellers again.

Don't just look at Shopee. Some sellers are more active in other accounts than Shopee. 😃

You mean lazada ? Shop.com ?

Scroll up. There is a seller more active in Lazada selling at least RM500 cheaper in Lazada. He has also shopee account, but his Shopee account seems to be "on vacation".

Fastechlim is it ? Safe to bank in his bank account ? Warranty how ?

The seller did not force you to bank directly into his bank account, he has 97% rating for just selling on lazada platform.

Bank if to him directly enjoy 4.22 % further reduction in price ( around rm190 price reduction), but do it only if you are comfortable.

1 year warranty is according to his WORDS. That is the more or less the same with all China phone set, right ? I don't think other China phone sellers can do it better.

I more interested in gambling samsung snapdragon sets pre-s22 years than shipping in Chinese phone

Don't get you. Why you use the word "gambling" ?

Because there is high risk in using a shipped in Chinese phone compared to a used pre-s22 Samsung phone ?

Warranty wise I think no people can answer you for sure. Import CN set like this is very dependent on seller reputation and condition. Safety if concern then buy through lazada, it's more expensive but again more safe.

If really concern on warranty, then CN set is not something you should be looking it. In term of convenient and experience of warranty claim, Malaysia official set confirm is better than imported CN set.

Only choose for CN import set if warranty and ease to repair after warranty expire is something not important for you

Ya, unofficial china imported phone set all come with similar risk of warranty according to seller Words only. It make sense if seller not really layan if problem arise as what u pay is what u get.

The phone itself already more cheaper than regional official set by bypass tax, sirim etc etc. What to expect from service afterward and commonly seller will compile phone before ship back so anyhow it sure will take a long time for claiming purposes.

Anyhow it's not often for the phone to have problem for the first year, problem normally arise after warranty expired.

So many bad mouth of import snapdragon cannot claim malaysian warranty after breaking down

Hence i call it like "gambling" or in high keras terms "russian roulette"

https://soyacincau.com/2023/01/11/the-vivo-...-imx989-sensor/

The Vivo X90 series is coming to Malaysia soon, complete with its 1-inch IMX989 sensor

But no ViVo X90 pro+.

Kinda disappointed when I read on Soya that Pro+ is not coming.
But then again, same like last year, X80 pro+ also tak masuk.

Haha Fastech Lim to the rescue then

and btw mediakek 9200, can it perform just as well here? heard compatibility with 32bit will be worsen with this design but gugle play already handle this (if you download from play store 99% can download 64 bit version apps

Lol. Fastech lim again, it's not rescue but an earning from seller. I feel like advertisement of this seller very often in lowyat forum. I feel it is not that appropriate, this will make the forum look like promo platform of seller 🥲

apart from cpu, what else different for plus and non plus?

was looking for new phone in 2023

Display panel different, proplus with 1 more telefoto periscope, 48mp UWA, only vegan leather option

X90 and x90 pro use latest China BOE curved screen but was criticised with poor screen viewing angle

X90 proplus uses 2K samsung E6 panel curved

X90 pro with 120w charger, x90 proplus support 80w charger

This post has been edited by MyProLife: Jan 16 2023, 02:58 PM

Not really an advertisement. Is people are vouching him. Because the price and service are good.

Unfortunately after using IQOO Neo 3 5G China set and Realme Neo GT3 (MY Set), I have to say go for China set.

Many people still biased towards bloatware, but actually China set come with some benefits. Firstly they do have Google framework baked in, thus you just need to download gapps from app market to make use of Google services. Secondly, if you live in condo, China rom allowed to copy and emulate access card. Last but not least, China rom does allowed more games (especially China based games) to be run at higher FPS compared to global rom.

What you saying is possible but it might be due to some sort of advertisement as well. Nowadays is quite common for some seller to use duplicate account to promote for itself or paid for the promotion. It happen not in forum but also popular social media like fb, insta n YouTube as well.

To make it clean and clear, I suppose better don't mention any seller name in forum if possible unless someone is asking or just add on the front page and pin what seller got sell the model if official set is not available in Malaysia. Otherwise it will really look like on and off someone is trying to promote for the seller....

CN set got their advantage but then just becareful when sharing especially if the phone model itself is available officially in Malaysia. Promoting the unofficial CN set where official counterpart available is basically illegal.

The appointed sole official distributor in Malaysia can sue the seller if they import a device and resell. Just that most of the time they don't bother as the volume is too small but they can opt to do that if they want.

What bull is this? Even Apple is not stupid enough to do this.

Lol. Your example a bit...... Where got ppl buy import set of apple 1, most consumer buy from authorized dealer ........ When considering the price for apple and widely availability in many countries, who bother to buy from other countries and import to Malaysia 🥲

Import set I am referring here is those android device where it's officially available here and still someone import from CN and sell it. The official distributor can sue the seller if they want if this is the case but in practical mostly no bother because the volume is small.

If you really want to use apple as an example, the scenario that they will use oversea instead of locally is for YouTuber who purposely go to those countries with earlier launch and buy it there for review purpose or those that go vacation and buy in oversea countries that launch earlier or cheaper.

Normal consumer where got people purposely buy import set of apple... Unless when locally haven't launch but I doubt so. It's as we rarely seem people who sell import set of apple cos no demand....

This post has been edited by wolf1991: Jan 16 2023, 08:25 PM

I wanna say you are spewing bullshit la. It's international trade nowadays. How is it a crime when you are buying from oversea? Which manufacturer is going to be stupid enough to say these are not authentic set manufactured by the brand themselves? They just have to follow the law and get sirim certification.

I am not saying in term of buyer..... Please read properly. I am saying those seller, it's against the law when they sell something that was granted sole distributorship to certain company.

No company will sue consumer. They got choice to go sue seller but in practical it rarely happen because volume of those import set they sell as compared to official set is very small.

They might do it if a large percentage of buyer are buying from those that sell CN set without distributorship or assign as reseller and affected their profit & margin. Please read properly before replying.....

This post has been edited by wolf1991: Jan 16 2023, 08:29 PM

I dont think sole distributor means that others cant import and sell the item here.

It's as the word saying... If not what you think of sole distributor. Just that sole distributor can further assign reseller. It is as simple as that.....

Again like I am saying they got right to sue if they want to do it. But it will incur a lot of legal cost so they will only do it if large percentage of consumer are buying those unofficial set from certain seller.

So most of the time sole distributor just open one eye and close one eye due to small volume

Provided a definition of sole distributor for your referral. You may google it yourself..... It's actually pretty straight forward.

Definitions of sole distributor a person or business that has the only right to make a particular product or service available to its customers, so that no other people or businesses can make the same product or service available.

When someone violated their right, it's up to decision of sole distributor on what they wanna do. Either ignore or go for warning letter or further lawsuit case. They can do it but not necessarily they will do it.....

This post has been edited by wolf1991: Jan 16 2023, 08:35 PM

I think you too uptight with the definition. It's not as simple in real life. If it's as you said, they would have gone after every AP sellers. The product is real and if they want to blanket ban the importation, they would need to go through government agencies. The sole distributors would have been given rights to use the branding for marketing etc, partnering with others but that does not mean AP sets that go through unofficial channel as illegal. Even Apple is not stupid enough to go down this route.

Theoretically AP set is illegal but practical it work differently. The right given to sole distributor is to sell and provide service or product to certain region and not just marketing and branding, if not then why get the sole distributorship.......... If it's legal to import from CN without getting distributorship then no people will go for sole distributorship. They have to pay 1 for that distributorship either promise certain volume or term........

Again it's up to the sole distributor, although AP set is illegal but if they didn't sue and report to authority then most government agency won't make noise. Again the example you give is a bit nonsense. Apple not go down this route simply because their distributor is available worldwide and most people will just get it authorized reseller for ease of servicing etc etc.

If someone open a business and import a lot of apple product from oversea bypass the reseller or distributorship then most reseller will make noise to apple but this is not happen because demand is not there.... As u rarely seem unauthorized apple reseller selling the device.

Again I am mentioning on Android device. AP set is theoretically illegal just no people bother so no issue. The sole distributor can sue if they want but mostly just ignore. That's why you will notice a lot of seller that sell AP openly through online listing is when the device haven't officially launch in the countries or when certain device is not officially available in the countries.

The reason is if they sell those AP set after it's officially launch, it's illegal and might causes them to have a trouble legally......... It's actually quite simple.... The only way it's legal is if they buy from the authorized sole distributor and become reseller and not bypass them by direct buying from CN.....

This post has been edited by wolf1991: Jan 16 2023, 09:23 PM

It's actually more complicated than you think. That's all I got to say. That's why even Apple don't bother doing it except towards those that were importing parts from China that were cannibalised from broken phones since these parts bear their logo and not actually a completely assembled product.

......... I duno which part you don't understand. Apple Malaysia is not don't bother to do it, it's just they no need to do it...... Since no one is buying AP set of apple and hence no seller for apple AP set................. It basically didn't exist cos no demand....All the while I am referring to android device but u are giving an apple as example..... Anyway that's all I got to say as well

You can believe what you want to believe, that's all I want to say. There's no such things as I don't want these things to be imported just because you signed an exclusive agreement in this open market. You need to go through government agencies to force a blanket ban.

U still don't get it. AP set is illegal not because the device is fake. Is illegal for seller to sell AP set........ And no government will go for blanket ban as it is not government right that got violated.

It is the right of the sole authorized distributor that got violated when someone that wasn't assigned by sole distributor as reseller selling a certain device that is park under sole authorized distributor right. N it's up to the sole authorized distributor on what action they want to take.

Since when I mention on blanket ban. I think u get it all wrong. All the while I am saying is up to authorized sole distributor on what action they want to take and they can choose not to do anything.....

Exclusive agreement in certain region is protected by law and it's up to the 1 who given the right on what to do...... Again you are free to believe what you want to believe. I don't understand why it's so difficult to understand.

It's very straight forward, authorized sole distributor didn't take action to AP set seller doesn't mean what they do is legal. It's just people don't bother because the volume is very small only, it's just not worth to trouble to go through lawsuit case for the sole distributor. Unless when a certain AP set seller took a significant % of sales from sole authorized distributor 😑

This post has been edited by wolf1991: Jan 16 2023, 09:45 PM

I dont want to argue with you honestly. Its pointless.

True. Same here. I don't see what is the point to argue when it's obviously what I am saying is right 😅

Please get your understanding right before replying to someone. It's wasting my time to explain to u on something so straight forward....

LoL

yeah you're right abou that 32bit support as Mediatek is dropping support for 32bit on the D9200's performance cores.
from an average user's perspective tho, no issues whatsoever

Is this lim review related that fastech lim ? Please clarify.

lim review is the our local utuber that review smartphone and tech, u can check his channel

fastech lim is the local seller that too busy to do other stuff, he won't have time to layan me or u in here or other places

just because both are lim doesn't mean they are related