Abuden his land is under the slope

Unless got antigravity then it is not possible to origin from his land
But then, due deligent before setup a campsite where? Hantam ja?

Casually ignore that he hinted tanah runtuh started at gov land. Itu gov land ada do due diligence to prevent landslide tak? Atau main hantam je build build

So gov zoned his land for agricultural purpose only due to that

And a genius decide to run an accommodation business there, ciitng no license required
Ayam confused who is wrong here

The wrong is the ktarded pipul plotekting this farmer.

Already in the business name, farmer. Joke what lan can operate camping business.

Alternatives scenario would be the lunch box business. Let say they are not registered under business permit and reason is because no regulations for those type of business. What if the customers got food poisoning, the seller just say it is not their fault? When ask why, because we don't have permit as council no provide permit for lunch box business.

Is it an acceptable reason to neglect safety just because u don't have permit?

Also, absence of permit means you don't have permission. What is hard to understand? Unable to get permit because no provision, then don't do lor.

If like that, I also want to open a business where we can just sleep under the flyover. Can just do because council don't have permit. And laugh me die if you say the owner has right to do it because he own the land.

Dei, u think citizen really "own" anything? What do you think land tax is for? Ultimately, the lands are owned by the government.

But those plotekting are just B40 who never own a piece of land before. Just plotekting without using brain.

Pengusaha tapak perkhemahan Father’s Organic Farm (FoF) menjelaskan kejadian tanah runtuh yang mengorbankan 24 nyawa setakat ini bukan berpunca di tapak perkhemahan mereka.

Sebaliknya, jurucakap tapak perkhemahan Father’s Organic Farm, Frankie Tan berkata, tanah runtuh itu tanah kerajaan dan di tepi jalan yang jaraknya antara 2 kilometer (km) 3 km dari tapak mereka.

“Saya ingin menjelaskan tanah runtuh bukan bermula di tapak perkhemahan kami tetapi di tanah kerajaan dan di tepi jalan yang jaraknya antara 2 kilometer (km) 3 km dari tapak kami,” katanya dalam sidang akhbar semalam.

Mengulas mengenai lesen, Tan berkata, pihaknya tidak dapat membuat permohonan bagi mendapatkan lesen perkhemahan kerana permit sedemikian tidak pernah wujud.

Katanya, perkara itu dimaklumkan oleh pelbagai agensi kerajaan termasuk Jabatan Pertanian bahawa tiada lesen seumpama itu boleh dipohon oleh pengusaha tapak perkhemahan.

“Saya pernah bertanya kepada pegawai kerajaan sama ada kami perlu memohon lesen tapak perkhemahan atau tidak. Pegawai itu berkata tiada permit kerana tapak perkhemahan ini bukan struktur kekal seperti hotel, justeru tiada lesen untuk dipohon.

“Bukannya kami tidak mahu membuat permohonan tetapi memang tidak ada cara untuk kami memohon,” katanya.

Dalam tragedi pukul 2.42 pagi pada Jumaat lalu, berlaku runtuhan tanah sepanjang hampir 300 meter dan setinggi 70 meter di tapak perkhemahan yang terletak di Jalan Batang Kali-Genting Highland itu.

Seramai 24 mangsa disahkan terkorban daripada keseluruhan 94 orang yang terbabit dalam tragedi itu manakala, sembilan mangsa lagi masih hilang dan sehingga kini, operasi Mencari dan Menyelamat (SAR) masih dijalankan.

Pihak pengurusan Father’s Organic Farm telah memberi keterangan kepada polis pada Ahad lalu dan turut mengucapkan takziah kepada semua waris mangsa yang terlibat dalam kejadian tanah runtuh yang berlaku di bawah kawasan seliaan mereka.

Father’s Organic Farm dalam satu kenyataan di Facebooknya melahirkan rasa dukacita dan simpatinya terhadap semua mangsa dan waris yang terkesan akibat tragedi berkenaan.

Dalam pada itu, Tan turut mendakwa bahawa pihaknya tidak menyedari bahawa kawasan berkenaan diklasifikasikan sebagai berisiko tinggi selain bermula sebagai ladang organik sebelum menyediakan perkhidmatan perkhemahan pada 2017 atas permintaan pengunjung. – UTUSAN

https://www.utusan.com.my/nasional/2022/12/...lSJ6EMYlFuqbi1E

sometimes goverment officer also gives wrong information. fact

So gov zoned his land for agricultural purpose only due to that

And a genius decide to run an accommodation business there, ciitng no license required
Ayam confused who is wrong here

Ok, let's look at this objectively. I have have setup hotel at my house without lesen. Fire break out 2 blocks from my house, fire spread from 2 blocks to my house and kill all tenant.

Now you guys saying my hotel salah cause didn't apply lesen but ignore fire breakout from the origin due to them being negligence. Case close I kena.

Yeah this case still you salah for no license

Since no license, means no insurance, no bomba fire cert, fire alarm, smoke detector, fire fighting sprinkler, meaning very unfair to your customer

And you are in for criminal negligence charge

Yes, so case close right? The origin fire we totally ignore. That guy house/premise we just close eye. That's what you guys implying

This SAR is coming to a close soon. Hope there will be a tragedy memorial site allocated by the land owner in remembrance of the landslide victims. Personally, I'd like to see statute of a man hugging his dog on top of large granite memorial surrounded by flowering garden. Something like this, etc.



Condolence to the families in the tragedy.

Kalau dia tanya ada lesen untuk perkhemahan ke tak, mestilah jawapannya takde. Tanah tu mmg tanah untuk tanaman. Dia ada KM untuk tukar jadi bisnes lain, konon untuk resort... tapi tu kebenaran merancang dan belum ada lesen lagi. Dia claim dia buat pemeriksaan keselamatan tapi dia sendiri buat sebab "dia ada pengalaman camping". HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Takde kertas dengan tandatangan profesional nak support claim dia. Paling kelakar ada orang sokong pemilik tanah.

that is the thing. Some people protect the camp organiser just because he said no license available. Padahal sendiri minta kerajaan tangguh KM sebab nak masukkan pusat pelancongan. Asyik kata xde lesen. KM diperlukan sebab melibatkan banyak agensi kerajaan utk memberi nasihat. Lesen biasanya dikeluarkan oleh SATU jabatan.

I cannot brain why some people keep ignoring the news that the camp operator indeed aware of the needs of KM, but simply push off and said no license needed. Even that the spokesman no longer responds to media when asked about the KM thing.

Then, it is memorial for a man with his dog?
Oh mai

Yes, so case close right? The origin fire we totally ignore. That guy house/premise we just close eye. That's what you guys implying

I belip pergerakan tanah over there are not new, there have been few times oredi right? That kinda soil needs big big tree root to grab together not sayur-sayuran akar kecik miao. I dunno if such land is suitable for sayur or small pokok.
Maybe it's tanah perhutanan nor pertanian

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