Because msian style, whack dulu... pape pon, kito boleh deal belakang nanti.

KEKWA

So his explanation was like, if i drill a tunnel underground or korek a basement, then common land or road above suddenly collapsed and caused casualties, not my problem...

It’s good that you did your own risk assessment. I myself would do the same as risk management is pretty much my expertise. But then, how many people actually do their own risk assessment? How many people actually wear seatbelt for safety reason? How many people actually obey to speed limit for safety reason? How many people actually force their kids to buckle up for safety reason? I would say only minority.

Hence why the authority must be responsible to ensure that safety regulations are strictly enforced, this include the safety of all type of premises that involved the public.

In this case, the operator failed to apply for license to operate as camping site. One might argue that there is no such regulation, but then, had the operator actually enquire for license, they authority has no other choice but to make up a new regulation as once they approve for them to operate (as camping site), they would have to bear the safety responsibility for the site.

If you rent your room out to someone, then there was a flood and that person died, would you be found guilty of negligence?

I can see a few mini landslides in the videos posted by campers. Yet they camp right beneath the exposed soil...but it looked far away ..

Now that we know the fact..How to prove owner negligence when the landslide started somewehere else? Owner has provide the best he could to the campers there without any unwanted tragedy for the past 3 years.

It was a natural disaster..like flood in kelantan.

By not having the camping site there

This post has been edited by desmond2020: Dec 21 2022, 06:46 AM

So? It didn't shift the duty of care of the site owner

Abuden, he can clear slope to do his farm as his wish?

Look at slope and start thinking what if landslide from there while stop thinking about money for a moment

Well,, if you rent out unlicensed room at food prone area

Plus level of magnitude of concequance is not the same, landslide, if there is human in vacinity, almost certain death

While flood, deaths is maybe 0.01%?

Magnitude is different so you are compare chicken with duck


How about plane crash in storm due to unlicensed parts, still salah natural disaster?

This post has been edited by desmond2020: Dec 21 2022, 06:55 AM

So owner is ignorant of this primary school stuff? How stupid?


Inb4 being stupid isn't a crime

This post has been edited by desmond2020: Dec 21 2022, 06:54 AM

I disagree the term "natural disaster" on this tragedy.

It involves nature but the cause is not natural at all.

The area has been tampered for farming activities and logging.

If there are no human activities, the landslide would likely not occurred.

As who to be blame, we can blame the camp site owner as he do an illegal activity on his land that is designated as agriculture purposes.

Owner of site, whether it is legal or illegal, always has duty of care for the safety of its visitors

And ignorance of laws isn't a defense

Tak pernh wujud..
Then y u still want to operate???

How u can operate???
Under table cable amat kuasa

No sense of safety or pretty much ignorant.

Landslides can come down fast and easy with rain. Never fuck around with mother nature.

Why do many people pushing this "natural disaster" narrative?

Flood also can be human caused like in KL and Taman Muda.

This landslide also have distinctive pattern of uncontrollable logging and farming activities.

Also, you must have never owned land before. It will clearly state in the title if your land is for farming or residence. Even what type of tree is stated, meaning a rubber plantation title can't simply convert to papaya or banana plantation.

Owner negligence started when he started an illegal commercial activity on a land intended for plantation. If he want to make a resort, need to change the title to resort type. Now, could you explain why he didn't?

Plotek more.

basically apa sarahan saya card at its best

https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/6142...t-others-unsafe

Do you remember Taman Pertama landslide? If that owner rented the house (unlicensed) to someone and he died due to landslide, do you think the owner is responsible for the death?

To be fair to operator, I think what he meant is that the camping site is operated in grey area, where there is no any regulation by Malaysian government as for now, not to say that is government fault not to do any work. Perhaps after this case, government will amend regulation/law on this matter.

dude, the house is build by proper developer with actual building plan approved by council

now compare apple with banana dy?