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TSriver.sand
post Nov 9 2022, 11:23 AM, updated 4y ago

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C919 A320ceo A320neo
Passengers 168 (1-class) / 158 (2-class) 180 (1-class) / 140-170 (2-class) 194 (1-class) / 150-180 (2-class)
Length 38.9 m / 127.6 ft 37.57 m / 123 ft 3 in 37.57 m / 123 ft 3 in
Wingspan 35.8 m / 117.5 ft 35.8 m / 117 ft 5 in 35.80 m / 117 ft 5 in
Height 11.95 m / 39.2 ft 11.76 m / 38 ft 7 in 11.76 m / 38 ft 7 in
Weight 42,100 kg / 92,815 lb 42.6 t / 93,900 lb 44.3 t / 97,700 lb
Range 4,630 km / 2,500NM 6,112 km / 3,300NM 6,500 km / 3,500NM

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https://simpleflying.com/comac-c919-airbus-a320/

C919 is no match to A320ceo, not to mention A320neo. It can seat fewer passengers, and have shorter range.

But of course, COMAC can sell the plane at a discount to international customers. Meanwhile, CCP will take care of domestic customers.

COMAC will be able to break the Airbus / Boeing duopoly, but no so soon.
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post Nov 9 2022, 11:27 AM

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EU & US is transferring their aviation tech & know-how to China. The Chinese is learning very fast. It is still a work in progress.




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post Nov 9 2022, 11:33 AM

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China still can't produce a fuel efficient engine for their plane yet, it is their next goal
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post Nov 9 2022, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(ekoh @ Nov 9 2022, 11:33 AM)
China still can't produce a fuel efficient engine for their plane yet, it is their next goal
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Don't worry. Their industrial spies is hard at work here.
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post Nov 9 2022, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Nov 9 2022, 11:27 AM)
EU & US is transferring their aviation tech & know-how to China. The Chinese is learning very fast. It is still a work in progress.
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Next gen C919 is probably 20 years away. By that time Airbus would have come out with the successor of A320neo already.
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post Nov 9 2022, 11:50 AM

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Chinese citizens will be the guinea pigs, hopefully the plane will have a long safety record.
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post Nov 9 2022, 11:54 AM

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China just direct skip to make hybrid electric plane la
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post Nov 9 2022, 11:58 AM

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So, how about alert sound in cabin ? retard = 弱智 ?
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post Nov 9 2022, 11:58 AM

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post Nov 9 2022, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Nov 9 2022, 11:50 AM)
Chinese citizens will be the guinea pigs, hopefully the plane will have a long safety record.
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Won't be surprised to see Chinese planes feature on ACI
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post Nov 9 2022, 12:05 PM

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You know how long it took Airbus to just be on par with Boeing?

I'm not doubting Comac but it will be some time before they can be a real challenge to Airbus.
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post Nov 9 2022, 12:07 PM

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Got spare part or not?? Need to buy 2 unit??
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post Nov 9 2022, 12:10 PM

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Got ncap crash test or not?
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post Nov 9 2022, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(ekoh @ Nov 9 2022, 12:33 PM)
China still can't produce a fuel efficient engine for their plane yet, it is their next goal
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err.... they're using the LEAP 1-C engine from CFM (which is the improved version of the LEAP 1-A used in A320NEO)

In fact, most of the aircraft critical parts are sourced from western companies
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post Nov 9 2022, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(wong_86 @ Nov 9 2022, 11:58 AM)
So, how about alert sound in cabin ? retard = 弱智 ?
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airbus pilot been called Retard everytime they land the plane
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post Nov 9 2022, 12:14 PM

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Not as efficient as a320neo, safety record also not sure of yet. If any Airlines get that plane, I'll be wary of booking with them.
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post Nov 9 2022, 12:20 PM

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Always have to start somewhere and then improve after a small market share has been established. Look at how China smartphone and electric vehicle brands have established themselves so quickly.

Not many countries can go into this line because of their small internal market. Only big countries like China, Russia and probably India has the market size to support a startup local passenger plane manufacturer.
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post Nov 9 2022, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(Bull Poli @ Nov 9 2022, 12:14 PM)
Not as efficient as a320neo, safety record also not sure of yet. If any Airlines get that plane, I'll be wary of booking with them.
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Big established company like Boeing can still screw up big time.
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post Nov 9 2022, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Lanchio @ Nov 9 2022, 12:05 PM)
You know how long it took Airbus to just be on par with Boeing?

I'm not doubting Comac but it will be some time before they can be a real challenge to Airbus.
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Airbus launched A300 in 1969. Ten years later...
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...by 1979 there were 81 A300 passenger liners in service with 14 airlines, alongside 133 firm orders and 88 options.[18] Ten years after the official launch of the A300, the company had achieved a 26 per cent market share in terms of dollar value...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A300

Pretty impressive.
Meanwhile, C919 was launched in 2008, and it is still not in service yet.
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post Nov 9 2022, 12:37 PM

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