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jaycee1
post Jul 23 2023, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Jul 23 2023, 01:50 PM)
mesh jacket is a must have in malaysia weather..
really feel better when wind passing your body

some jacket have quick dry technology or use material that makes it easier when you are sweaty
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......... unless your armour flows air as well.

As for jacket sticking.....

Just wear long sleeve "cool" fabric type .... Helps you get the jacket off without sticking, and ventilates/dry very quickly.

On really hot days, I just soak the whole shirt. Wear it. Feels Like air con. Dries up in 30mins...even under my mesh jacket.



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post Dec 15 2023, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Dec 14 2023, 11:05 PM)
Its quieter than my modular helmet  laugh.gif
Sure still got wind noise, I think thats unavoidable when riding naked bike
Don't know how other full face helmet would be quieter or not
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Champion helmets on youtube have very good helmet reviews. I always look at the reviews before deciding on a helmet.

Like skyblu I'm also using the rpha70. Yes it is quiet...relatively...but I still use earplugs. But the new 71 and 91 brings it down even further.
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post Dec 30 2023, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(vavisalai @ Dec 30 2023, 04:44 PM)
Hello to all the sifus,

I have some questions regarding riding bike gears. I am planning to ride to work everyday with a one way distance of 10km to my office. My budget is around Rm 3000 (around 862 sgd). The main thing for me is I want to separate work and leisure gears (if it’s possible two sets).

I am looking to get 2 helmets (1 for work & 1 for leisure), one riding jacket (was thinking to wear the jacket for work commute and buying those knee and elbow guard for leisure ride OR get another riding jacket if budget permits) and gloves.
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Questions are
1. Can an armoured jacket fold and stored together with a Modular helmet into a 46L top box?
2. Let say I’m getting a mesh jacket, do I still need to buy a rain jacket?
3. Is knee & elbow guard protective when I’m wearing shorts and T-shirt?
4. Should I get all the gears in Malaysia or Singapore?
5. Last but not least, any recommendations with the budget above and place to get it? (Yes I’m trying to get spoon fed by you all)
6. One more thing, Vespa 150 vs Yamaha X Max 300 vs Honda Forza 350? Leaning towards Vespa due to the brand but in reality practically comes first 🙃

Thank you.
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1) depends on your helmet size and jacket size and box shape.. Theoretically possible but likely tight fit even if possible.
2) yes. Unless you don't mind getting wet.
3) yes, but you will still lose skin in a slide
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6) have you ridden all 3?


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post Dec 30 2023, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Dec 30 2023, 06:06 PM)
In case you think short distance ride is safe and do not need to wear safety gears.
Just last week my neighbour rode to nearby shops for lunch.
Crashed.
Fracture his elbow.
Hairline crack on his kneecap
Big road rash on his arm and palm
Why?  Just as many thinks.  Aiyahhh.  Ride short distance only.  Nothing will happen.  No need wear safety gears.

Good thing was he was wearing a fulllface.  If not his jaw will kena too.
My advice to you.  Ride to work or leisure.
Atgatt.  Including the knee shin guards.
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Yes indeed. Even if you are careful, others may not.

Studies have already shown most people have accidents close to home. People just go autopilot when close to home. I've had more close calls 10mins from home than commuting to work or highway long distance travel.
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post Jan 27 2024, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(bo093 @ Jan 26 2024, 09:58 AM)
I just bought a bike and now i need to gear up myself.
Trying to buy all the needed gear is expensive. So better ask to make my money worth.

Helmet - KYT TT
Is there any better contender for this price point?

Is BENKIA is a decent brand?

Might buy from Serdang Motorcycle.

Any suggestion is welcome.
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Benkia is decent, although most of the gear isn't properly certified and some of the componentry like zippers are not as high quality. Just go to serdang, test the sizes, then order from serdang shopee store when they have promo vouchers. Can save quite a bit there.

I have a benkia rain set and has worked exceptionally well past 2 years.

If budget is an issue (as with many starting riders) just get what you can afford. Better to have cheap gear than nothing, and then upgrade later when budget is healthier.

I have no comments on KYT helmets. Maybe look at Zeus from GBS and see the equivalent. If you are an all weather rider and commuter, I think better to spend a little more for a helmet with pin lock.
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post Jan 29 2024, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Jan 29 2024, 09:51 AM)
welcome

helmet - fit is most important, make sure to test them up to half an hour to make sure it doesn't give you headache due to pressure points, and you like how it feels inside

noise control is important, learn to use earplugs - there is not fix for tinnitus

in terms of importance:
helmet + earplugs + gloves + boots
lower body protection (pants, knee shin hip protection)
jacket (shoulder, elbow, back)
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New riders, take note above.

This can't be stressed enough.

Also to note. New helmets should be unusually tight. As long as the new helmet doesn't cause pain or discomfort from hotspots/pressure point, which are usually due to the helmet shape not fitting your head, all the pads should be tight.

Many newer riders end up with helmets 1 size too large. Then realise the helmet is too loose after a few weeks of use.
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post Feb 1 2024, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Feb 1 2024, 02:11 PM)
So I just had an accident this morning because of my own stupidity..
Trying to 'layan corner' at an unfamiliar road, ended up overshooting and slide into the grass sweat.gif

https://maps.app.goo.gl/CDj2UZsuSffiKYyj8

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Looks like that corner has claimed a plenty of victim..

Thank God that all I had was minor bruises and bike was working fine even with small dent here and there.
A lot of passerby was offering help too.. I'm really moved by that gesture tbh
Still manage to ride it back home in 1 hour.

Reminder to all (and myself) to never EVER forget your gear.. and ride safely. I would've ended up losing some of my skins if not for these protection.
Some scratches and dent on the bike and helmet
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Minor injury on my right hand and right hip
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Jacket and pants aftermath. Surprisingly gloves are fine
You know that I said Benkia padding feels insufficient? I take that back it did help me  laugh.gif
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Sekian
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Wow. Sorry to hear your crash.

But good to know your gear saved some skin. Bike looks like it took the crash remarkably well.
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post Feb 6 2024, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Feb 5 2024, 03:25 PM)
sport touring tyre, no confidence to lean more sweat.gif

tyre also feel more 'square'-ish compared to S21

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That's on purpose by design.

Sport touring tyres put more emphasis on longevity, and one way to increase it is to increase centre contact area. More contact area means less force and better distribution of weight and wear. They are flatter by design.
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post Feb 8 2024, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Feb 7 2024, 12:44 AM)
gt2 is supposedly the upgraded version so yeah should be better

if you say so, I need to regain my confidence to lean though.. now scared already  sweat.gif
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It looks like so. On a flatter sport touring tyre, you should have no issues leaning to the edge without that much of a lean angle.

Tyres have usually more grip then you think. If faced with the potential of running wide, I rather take my chances of putting more lean angle and risk lowsiding the rear. Just dont overcorrect the low side, you might end up highsiding...which is a lot worst.

Always threshold brake into a corner, you don't want your front lowsiding.


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post Feb 16 2024, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Feb 16 2024, 04:47 PM)
GT came with dual compound, and you're probably right about the higher load bearing thing, ST have limited rear sizes, 160, 180 and 190/50, many older Pirelli models moved to China, and bias ones for Rosso III moved to Indonesia
bias ply tyres need to go 1 size down for the same rim width because of the construction, so you would probably need a 150

Zeneos peeling probably wouldn't hurt the performance, it's probably caused by being too long in service, maybe more than 2 years I'd guess... but it's unusual
my Maxxis kapcai had compound boundary (soft side hard center) separation crack after 10 years in service

30k mileage tyre for me is unheard of, haha... I couldn't wait to change after 5k km each time.
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Well 2 sets of my Zeneos zn33 ran consistently until beyond the wearbars. About 15k each. I seriously couldn't imagine how hard the tyre compound need to be in order to last 30k though.
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post Feb 18 2024, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(viosturbo500hp @ Feb 18 2024, 04:39 PM)
Had a low slide 2 weeks after i bought my Shima Jacket, landed on my right arm and slided across the tarmac. Walked out with zero abbraision on my arms or palms. I was wearing my Shima mesh pro & Benkia GK333 gloves.

I'd say it's money well spent for the gloves and jacket. Lucky you finally bought 1 a few weeks ago.

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post Feb 19 2024, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(viosturbo500hp @ Feb 19 2024, 11:20 AM)
What tires do you reccomend for a daily commuter LC 4s with standard size rims  ?
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You might want to add your LC has a big brake kit and upgraded brake master. Paired with subpar tyres on wet roads, it's easy to lock up.


QUOTE(mADmAN @ Feb 19 2024, 01:01 PM)
Corsa S123... used them on my old Z250 n thought they were amazing

i see alot of kapchais using it on the rear pairing it with the Corsa S123 sport rain on the front coz the sport rain doesnt last as long.
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The S123 lasts quite a bit but I won't really say they are that good in the rain. I also don't like the zig zag centre groove on the S123.

Maybe the Corsa Sport Rain would be better.

Best wet tyres I've had was those old school Dunlop TT100 on my old EX5.

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post Feb 22 2024, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Feb 21 2024, 10:55 AM)
Ahh same time as my wife albeit a few weeks back.

Still at the 250km mark, now it's at Rawtech for the next 1 month for some custom work.
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Lol..ditched the clx already? Haha
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post Feb 24 2024, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(viosturbo500hp @ Feb 22 2024, 05:53 PM)


That said, i always thought Michilin would be a reliable tire choice since i had good experience with them on my cars. Guess not  laugh.gif
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Always favour a budget brand making premium offerings, than a premium brand making budget offerings.


Think about that for a sec will ya.

One is cutting cost to fit a price. The other is trying to make a better tyre but not charging so much.
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post Feb 25 2024, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Feb 24 2024, 08:23 PM)
Paid Rawtech a visit today to finalize with En. Azis the design of her custom rear rack. On the topic of the bar riser, he did note that the cables might start to tug at full lock and cause all sorts of problems. So he advised my wife against it.

Her 700 CLX died again Thursday night while riding home with me after dinner in Ara Damansara. 3rd lane in fast-moving traffic on the NKVE at 9pm, ignition cut out and lost power all of a sudden while cruising at highway speeds. Power was on but it refused to start. It was a harrowing experience coz she didn't not have the power to safely cut across 3 lanes of traffic into the emergency lane and the bike came to a stop in the middle of the friggin highway. Fortunately, the large truck behind her managed to stop in time and block the traffic for us to push the bike to the side of the highway. Called a tow truck and dumped the motherfucker at Mforce immediately afterward.

She was supposed to ride it to Satun with me next week. Looks like she'll have to make the trip on the back of my bike as a passenger.

Enough is enough, that bike is DONE. We'll cut our losses and flog it off immediately when it comes out of Mforce. Damn near killed both of us that nite.
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Oh shit that's bad.

My loaner CLX had a dead throttle incident on Saturday. Fortunately, I was able to idle cruise back home at 10kmh....lucky no hills. I was just 1km from home as I just out to get breakfast.

Throttle completely dead, no response at all. After a few power cycles still the same. But I it came back alive after I plugged and unplugged the connection. Maybe a loose connection
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post Feb 26 2024, 04:30 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Feb 25 2024, 09:52 PM)
must be some 'safety' feature kicked in like the KTM overheating shutoffs
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Even then, like the dominar, the overheating safety feature has 2 levels.

First it limits revs to 5000. If you continue to run it, then it will shut off the bike until it's cool enough to run. Usually within 30mins.

Quite dangerous for the rider if it was to shut off completely suddenly.


And I was thinking if it's not already bad enough for KTMs history or random stalling and electrical gremlins.

If the bike doesn't crank at all it points to the ECU doing something...or not doing what it's supposed to be.
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post Feb 26 2024, 10:57 AM

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@ZZR

So what did MForce say about the bike?

Looks like both our bikes are at segambut now. They have elected to repair my NK at segambut instead of sending it back to penang.
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post Feb 28 2024, 04:25 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Feb 27 2024, 05:57 PM)
Nothing. Mforce ni sikit-sikit hantar ke Penang. So the bike is currently waiting for the lorry to Penang. Again. Penat sial.
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I'm pretty much done with cfmoto/MForce also.

Minor mishap with the loaner CLX. A real stupid one at that. A minor lapse in good practice.

Sat on the bike ready to go out for dinner. Switched it on. Shows neutral. Pressed the starter. Bloody bike jumped forward. It was fucking in gear. Lost my balance and the bike fell on me. I mean WTF. That's a double failure.

Broken mirror..minor scuff on the bar end and exhaust heat shield. Nothing serious.

Nursing a bruised and slightly swollen palm from catching myself (I had not had my gloves on yet - was holding my gloves with my left hand, which is why I wasn't on the clutch like I usually do - was wanting to warm the bike up) and a slight bruise on my inner thigh from the bike falling in me. Fortunately I had my riding pants (hip armour did its job) and boots on.

I'm returning the bike to cfmoto tmrw...regardless of if they had fixed my 800nk or not.


I was actually enjoying the CLX pretty much..but my soon to be posted 1000km review of the bike won't be so rosy now.

I've had hundreds of drops and falls off my dominar especially off road without getting hurt, except for DAY ONE practicing low speed maneuver (Ironically, at the exact same spot..slippery cement at my parking lot) ...and you know what, my dominar's mirrors are still fine save some scratches on the plastic back.

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post Feb 28 2024, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Feb 28 2024, 10:00 AM)
how did that happen  mega_shok.gif  false neutral indicator?
and it can start even in gear huh.. usually need to hold clutch if bike in gear
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Which is what the WTF. Must been a double failure for that to happen.

Just sent the bike back to MForce segambut.

Looks like they haven't touched my NK yet. Now says they will send it back to penang after a week sitting

@ZZR. Your RAK CLX still sitting there.



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post Mar 2 2024, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(RoofTopPrince @ Mar 2 2024, 10:50 AM)
Hey bro, i think I saw one 2023 CLX700 for sale @ RM28k at Facebook... is that you? low mileage thou
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It's not his. And 28k for a used CLX is expensive.quite a few people dumping Thier CLX. Begining to see quite a few in the used market.

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