The food delivery industry is no longer attractive?

Many food delivery workers complained that their income was lower than before. Some people only earned RM50 for working 12 hours. After deducting petrol and food expenses, they only had a net income of RM5!

Azim, an IT graduate who works as a food delivery worker , pointed out to Kosmo! that in addition to a decrease in income, most food delivery workers are often in a state of "waiting" due to delays in fulfilling orders by restaurant operators.

"The high number of food delivery staff , coupled with the fact that many people rather go out and takeaway, is one of the reasons for the decline in orders received.

"In addition, the restaurant operator delayed the completion of the order, which caused the delivery staff to sit outside the restaurant to 'wait' for up to two hours. If the customer chooses to cancel the order, it is our delivery staff to suffer ."

Hilmi, another food delivery man, pointed out that he only earns RM50 for working 12 hours a day and only RM5 after deducting gas and food expenses, which he thinks is not worth the situation, but in the Until he could find a new job, he can only grit his teeth and keep going.

"If I give up now, I'm afraid I won't even have money for my daily expenses. Sometimes my income can reach RM200 a day, and sometimes I only receive nine orders, which is quite exhausting."

While working as a food delivery man in 2020, Mohd Rizal said he was earning RM6,000 a month at the time, but his income dropped significantly after the country entered the transitional phase of the endemic.

“Currently I work 12 hours starting at 8am and only get RM80 to RM100 a day.”

Mohd Firdaus , who has been a food delivery worker for 4 years, believes that the frequent policy changes of the food delivery platform have caused a lot of inconvenience to the delivery workers .

“In the past , the delivery staff receives a delivery fee of RM4 for each order delivered, but now, the delivery fee will be reduced for each order being delivered. In order to meet the key performance indicators (KPI), they have to keep on accepting more orders, otherwise, if the KPI is not hit, there will be less income."

https://www.kosmo.com.my/2022/10/14/upah-ma...idai-yang-lama/
https://www.chinapress.com.my/?p=3154650

This post has been edited by premier239: Oct 14 2022, 08:16 PM

Yup, I can confirm restaurant really delay rider food….

I order char siew rice,
I saw riderwait almost 1 hour….
Walao…not that much people also can so long….
I know cos I got go that stall eat,
Normally, just need wait 5~10 minute for 6 people food…

poco loco really ka

time for the delivery fees to plummet

Semua olang nak grab RM6k, siapa nak masak?

Kejap earn 4k, 8k, kejap earn 5bux

Cool setori

Why the restaurant do that?

Tomas said work 4-5 hours can get rm100 liao.. me want join don't like that la rm5 so cb..

Meanwhile, gaji menteri naik, but work didn't increase value.

for mcd, they give prioritize to mcdelivery order

I don’t know…
That restaurant now day quite expensive…
I no choice cos no lunch to eat, and got gastric…

Like pisang goreng cheese. One person do, then everybody do, then everybody mati.

Actually when bukak the rider association already sound the warning. Earnings dropping

But the kuda post on soc med that keeps saying rider can earn money keep blinding ppl to what we most suspect. Bubble has burst. But the hype train keeps rolling on the Internet, don't need to study just do grab

Sometimes I wonder if the ppl behind the hype got an ulterior motive.

If they have equal traffic of customers between walk in and grab, they prefer to cater walk ins because they pay full fare and dont cut into profit. Grab makes profit like crazy off restaurants, but they have no choice if they want volume orders each day. Some hardly make any profit at all selling off grab, but still do so simply for exposure.

Many ppl think they are smart without education. No need degree just go earn money. No need to study. Form 5 enough just go do gig economy.

End up they dont even know how the world works and just become sheeps to the slaughterhouse

I see. Yea, while I'm grateful for the 50% vouchers by Grab, I sometimes wonder how can the restaurant make any profit from me since I always order the minimum amount to quality for the vouchers.

lmao meals on grabfood is at least double the price vs walk in

truly has become a luxury

Why need deduct food expenses, when u can songlap customer's food


Owaii

Yup. Don't need degree can purse vocational or trade craft. Cannot do formal can try apprenticeship
It's hard but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. When ppl say this the argument is do grab can get 5K with freedom to boot

Ppl don't know that the 5K has a very thin margin of error. Sick or motor rosak that's it for the week or worst case the month. There is no progression. In fact no progression is a best case scenario assuming gig riders serving food delivery can operate in the same economic climate in perpetuity. Now if this report is correct, music has stopped

Still I hope it's not the case and ppl still can make a decent living. For those that earn money hopefully they saved up to do other stuff that can kick start their careers in other areas

Its just basic supply demand...when u have people dropping outta university education because they say delivery guy can earn big then u know this is bound to happen

Heheh ya la unker oso feel like joining when tomas promote

price on grabfood is always higher 20-30% than in restaurant
i thought that different 20-30% is to cover grab charge

Just look at malaysiapaygap site. Keep shilling about 20k jobs giving the impression that most jobs pay well. Ulterior motive? So ppl will go engage the career coach that is always commenting there. I highly suspect both the admin and the coach to be the same person.

hahah. Jokes on them, I just steal some posts to make a point and dont refer the comments

Take that coaches

Pigi capital A. They say they give big fat basic salary

RM5?? area mana dia jalan ni...

Don't lie.. always flex got how many shop, business etc nak join konon.. khaak!

And the ppl shilling that grabrider jobs > all are probably just keyboard warriors earning a comfortable salary a.k.a. reporters and site admins from sampah unis with sampah degrees

I suspect some of those here that do so are also SPM students that want to enter public U. Ask less ppl to continue so less competition when applying thru UPU kek

ooh
venture capital money ran out

If net income rm5. Then jus do 3 delivery n stop je. Also rm5. Tak payah kerja 8jam for rm5

What to do lowest caste in fruity organization

Ah shit. They have just wasted 2 years of their lives working a no skill job and learning absolutely nothing while their peers have already level up themselves by learning sales/welding/machine operations etc.

Looks like their salary have just been blasted back to minimum wage due to no usable skill set and need to relearn everything when being absorbed back into the workforce

Lol reslly

2 years is a long time. Whatever skill set they have obtained previously is already forgotten. They are like fresh grads now as they know absolutely nothing except how to ride motor and which route is fastest

Hahahahahahahaha ikr

Thought grab usually charges RM5 per delivery. Don't give the whole amount to the rider?

Rider earn less, restaurant earn less but food price on the app increase double restaurant price

Looks like the investors want their money back
Better move from away from Foodpanda and grab, look for other alternative

Tak suka bole tukar kerja kan?

Thats why ones need to study further2. Start with gaji rm2k also nvm, can build up exp n climb ladder. I started working at 32 people here question why study too much now so late enter work. At least now i have permanent job if outstation rm100/hr confirmed, look see look see job get rm50/hr

i tot ppl say no need study work grab "forever" got steady income 10k ??

alamak x cukup setahun dh komplen...mcm mana nk berjaya

To get net pay equal or almost to the price at the restaurant, the price in the platform at 30% commission is 50% higher than at the restaurant.

Eg. Shop price is RM8. Selling price in the platform need to be RM12. After deduct 30% commission + 6% SST on top of the commission, shop will get RM8.18.

Yes, the higher price is to cover grab charge. Some discount and promo are from that charges as well. But some promo, the shop have to cover the differences.

But stupid policy maker people at Grab/Panda expected you to have same price as shop on their platform. Either you take the loss or increase the price in your shop to match.

Many seller just submit a menu with different pricing to get their store approved in the platform.

Nah they put grab/panda as the lowest priority because delivery rider can't fck them but customer can if food late more than 30 minutes.

if really RM5/RM50, already a massive rally/protest loh

Tipu, yesterday I saw several riders still tayang their RM200 per day earnings

Those who are kind , respond to My message , i chip in extra few ringgit … those who have so many excuses, no

net rm5..biarlah betol

sell goreng pisang better

yup...its lower by about 40% on my rough calculation....but i still doing it few hours a day 4-5 hours average

now a day 4-5 hours i get like 70linggit but yesterday 14.10.2022 i gotten rm 108....thats y i say average la


that artical say he work 12hour get 55...i think he halal rider...means no grab express etc

This post has been edited by poco loco: Oct 15 2022, 05:02 AM

bcause they got no system lor simple jer....
delivery order mau complain through phone take time

walkin cust complain...right in your face....direct

i dont promote la dey...
i am saying the fact....
y would i promote when new rider rampas my order right

Riders on the decline

With Grabunlimited, I can get a Subway Footlong for rm12:
Eg:
Footlong= rm26
Delivery= rm3
DE dagang discount= -rm6
50% discount= -rm8.50
Free delivery= -rm3
Net paid= rm11.50.
How the rm11.50 being shared btw Grab, Vendor and Rider?

Fpanda lagi cialat:
Seafood noodle sells at rm13 (price at stall rm12)
After pickup discount sell at rm7.20.
After discount code pay at rm4.50.
Must be a newbie Vendor in Fpanda.

This post has been edited by MGM: Oct 15 2022, 07:49 AM

Blame foodpanda and grab lor, they increase the price so much but give so little to the restaurant, siapa nak guna? Better to takeaway and give restaurant more profit while spending less

Go study how to fix car or apprentice program at workshop.. damn good business in future

Be VERY afraid if gig work is no longer worth it to do

The Bottom-rung society, the underemployed, the unemployed for a few years had this cushion to fall back to

Now with Gomen opening borders and allowing in planeloads of foreign migrant workers back in after business owners bising , if gig work is no longer viable, what do you think will happen to society?

Rider ever songlap your food?

he work 12 hours get rm50 minus expenses only rm5...

how to survive liddat?

what is your daily nett income?

depends on restaurant.

Marrybrown 3km from my house spent 20min in the kitchen...every time! Fast food yo.

Murni 10 km from my house within 10min after i placed order, its out for delivery.

Snatch thief and other petty crime had reduced significantly since the introduction of gig economy. Thus it must stay.

Picky rider kot? Just like grab car drivers in KV, very picky at certain times on the type of job...must be cash la, must be where they want to go la...cash because the account not even theirs so grabpay jobs are a no no.

Then complain no job. Or job not attractive.

Order in advance bro.

admin is just a photographer

time to tanam jagung.

Gig economy has crashed.

Time for these youngsters to get a real 9-5 job.

Gig economy is over

Plz go find real job

Well, thats what u get when u want freedom and no covid.
Time for covid, anyone?

Ini semua agenda untuk orang tak join je jangan percaya masuk je grabfood/foodpanda/shopeefood ni boleh dapat 4-5k sebulan!

For the Grab part, the saving is shared between Subway, Grab and DE Dagang.

The 50% discount promo, most probably subsidized by Subway directly.

The DE Dagang discount is subsidized by MDEC.

And the delivery fee is subsidized by Grab for subscribing to the Grab Unlimited program.


And for the FPanda part either the vendor really newbie or just using loss leadership to get some exposure in the platform.

Or they signed up to some promo that they didn't really understand and now they have to bear the losses.

Panda a lot of cases like the latter.

And? That’s how gig works. Want stable income? Get a real job.

Watch as govt pressure Grab and panda to pay riders more. Tongkat budaya kito

Lol didn't some ppl here say work food rider is the way to go now?

The problem with the gig economy is that the companies which run the gig economy does not have an upfront fixed salary cost. All participants are not employees. They are merely agents who choose to volunteer to provide the services. And as agents, your income is based on how much work you do. The company does not have an upper limit on how many agents they are going to sign up, it is as many as possible based on volunteer basis. The more people doing the same services, the less income they are going to have. And the market demand can change over time as well. During MCO the demand is great, and now the demand is a lot less. Any people who become agent and work full time, is going to see their income goes from nice to bad, as long as there are still too many agents in the pool.

Those who work in gig economy should recognize the nature of their jobs. It is a nice job if you treat it as a part time job to supplement your income, but if you think you can work in such field full time for life, you will be disappointed.

It will get worse if recession happens, then most of the demand will go away and the company is not obliged to pay you anything if no work get done. If already feel there is not enough income, then it is time to go back to look for a regular job with fixed salary.

Need another pandemic to push demand up again.

tbf if ayam the restaurant
if choosing either the customer right in front of me or customer some 10km away
i'll prioritize the customer in front of me too, because they can tiao me right then and there if they're unhappy
and the food delivery customer will tiao the rider instead of me

kena main dgn anthony

Shortsighted is the general problem of young people …

With max salary RM1500?

Dah banyak kali cakap grab is meant for stop gap only..in between waiting for real job. But these people treating grab panda job like permanent job.

boycott

But the problem is, many these young folks don't want to take up apprenticeship anymore. Want to work on Thier own timing and terms. Mana boleh. Most of them don't survive more than a month.

There is definately money in vocational. I'm in the construction industry where we are having massive shortages in manpower. Even supervisor and team leader level foreigners get 3k per month with OT or more....what more locals with accreditation and professional training or apprenticeship. It's not like we are not willing to pay more, it's that local people are choosy on what jobs they are willing to do.

Yes, apprentiship means you will be low payed and worked hard. But it will be an acquired skillset that you can bank in for the rest of your life. You rempit grab food can be MotoGP racer?


That's right. Same with the goreng Pisang cheese analogy someone made earlier. Demand and supply. But these people Kais pagi makan pagi...where got think long term.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Oct 15 2022, 06:38 PM

After pandemic all the jobs that paid high are gone. Become YouTuber also no value now.

gig economy is not meant for boomer country like malaysia...

sindiri bukak delivery kampeni la ... kasi rider banyak bagui punya gaji ... kampeni tak payah untung banyak asalkan staff gembira.

it was never attractive to begin with. lol

also, nowadays you ownself drive out to tapau or eat out is even cheaper than you pay for food delivery

after deduction of parking (if there is), or toll, and fuel consumption, still cheaper than ordering from apps

I remembered akak nasi lemak.
Esok kau jangan bukak.kat sini

Youtuber not rich now ?

This post has been edited by ChaosXP: Oct 15 2022, 08:06 PM

Just nett YouTube income is not good. Because all very reliant on ad revenue. Google is not getting enough ads as income after pandemic. That's why they changed google browser extension to disallow ad blocks. They also change the way unskippable ads quantity in videos. So being a YouTuber as nett income is not advisable now

The rich ones is because they have a lot of affiliate programs they do outside of YouTube. In Malaysia almost non existent. An example is like bobby with their aurizn members. They pool their resources under one banner. Red people is another one.