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MamulaMoon
post Oct 18 2022, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 18 2022, 09:27 AM)
too expensive... and west ham wont let him go for cheap... and his passing not really that good... we need playmaking CDM to control our tempo and declan rice is just another casemiro only...
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Sigh...Its hard to find good playmaking players nowadays

how many english playermaker are there as good as players like Kevin De Bruyne

Most of the playmaker players are foreign players nowadays..
silvertoes
post Oct 19 2022, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 18 2022, 05:32 PM)
to be fair, managers like pep and klopp also won nth during their first season in charge... and eventually they brought their team up after the correct additions made to the squad in the subsequent window... can we assume like this for ETH if lets say he reli did won nth this season?
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Klopp got Liv to 2 finals in his 1st season, EL and League Cup..
At the very least, he proved that he can get the team to be competitive in his first season there..

Pep comes with a huge cv.. too massive to ignore.. 2 times treble winner..
This phenomenal record and also top 4 finish bought him time..
I do believe if he win nothing the following season he will be replaced..

Comparing these 2 with ETH is a stretch..

That is why for me any cup final(win or lose) and/or top 4 finish is progress..

But dont worry, ETH will get his full 3years + 1year regardless whatever outcome of every seasons..
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post Oct 19 2022, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Oct 18 2022, 07:18 PM)
Sigh...Its hard to find good playmaking players nowadays

how many english playermaker are there as good as players like Kevin De Bruyne

Most of the playmaker players are foreign players nowadays..
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buying english players are very overrated these days... look at our sancho and grealish... and our favourite captain... will not be interested with any english players anymore... lol... foreign players that played long time in EPL should be priority...
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post Oct 19 2022, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 19 2022, 12:24 AM)
Klopp got Liv to 2 finals in his 1st season, EL and League Cup..
At the very least, he proved that he can get the team to be competitive in his first season there..

Pep comes with a huge cv.. too massive to ignore.. 2 times treble winner..
This phenomenal record and also top 4 finish bought him time..
I do believe if he win nothing the following season he will be replaced..

Comparing these 2 with ETH is a stretch..

That is why for me any cup final(win or lose) and/or top 4 finish is progress..

But dont worry, ETH will get his full 3years + 1year regardless whatever outcome of every seasons..
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tbh, hard to compare last time vs now..
last time the league are less competitive as now plus "pack" season with world cup....
time are changing n the owner too....
forget the past and look for future.....

somemore need to compare the player in the squad who suitable for the manager playstyle....
frankly say, i expect ntg more than top6 in this season from the current squad....
anything more is bonus....

accept the reality the current squad are not good enough for top 4......
in addition of pack season with our "fitness record", it only gonna be worst.....

i dont really mind the standing in the table and the result.....
i jz hope the team are more fluid and understand each other movement more....
exciting + entertaining play not alway come with result (Like arsenal previously) but at least we enjoy the game....
do i enjoy winning the title even if we play badly? sadly NOT for me....


Problem with the squad
eg.the player should prepare to run more to create space for passing and help cover the others.....

1. the current squad still need to slowly scan own player after receiving the ball < more predictable/lack understanding.....
2. less forward run < stand still waiting for pass/stand nearby own player wait for the ball (blocking dribble space)
3. less passion (improved) < jog when the team are attacking/ defending....no urgency.....
4. poor squad depth < in need of playmaking CDM and striker.....not much player to choose for sub....
5. team direction < are the manager trying to make short pass team play/long pass? it get weird when u buy sancho/antony but playing crossing....+ nobody except ronaldo is good header but his age catching up..




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post Oct 19 2022, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Darren @ Oct 19 2022, 07:59 PM)
tbh, hard to compare last time vs now..
last time the league are less competitive as now plus "pack" season with world cup....
time are changing n the owner too....
forget the past and look for future.....

somemore need to compare the player in the squad who suitable for the manager playstyle....
frankly say, i expect ntg more than top6 in this season from the current squad....
anything more is bonus....

accept the reality the current squad are not good enough for top 4......
in addition of pack season with our "fitness record", it only gonna be worst.....

i dont really mind the standing in the table and the result.....
i jz hope the team are more fluid and understand each other movement more....
exciting + entertaining play not alway come with result (Like arsenal previously) but at least we enjoy the game....
do i enjoy winning the title even if we play badly? sadly NOT for me....
Problem with the squad
eg.the player should prepare to run more to create space for passing and help cover the others.....

1. the current squad still need to slowly scan own player after receiving the ball < more predictable/lack understanding.....
2. less forward run < stand still waiting for pass/stand nearby own player wait for the ball (blocking dribble space)
3. less passion (improved) < jog when the team are attacking/ defending....no urgency.....
4. poor squad depth < in need of playmaking CDM and striker.....not much player to choose for sub....
5. team direction < are the manager trying to make short pass team play/long pass? it get weird when u buy sancho/antony but playing crossing....+ nobody except ronaldo is good header but his age catching up..
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Yeah..that is why whenever CR make dash runs..the mf too slow to pick up till he have to stop and start again.

This team is purely still counter attack team with both Sancho & Antony cannot deliver/beat oppo defender consistently

Passion is long gone apart for few games after the return of the viru

If they want to get rid of CR so much, they should do the same to degea too. Both players not suited for ETH game plan.

This post has been edited by and85rew: Oct 19 2022, 09:52 PM
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post Oct 20 2022, 02:24 AM

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UNITED XI

De Gea
Dalot
Varane
Martinez
Shaw
Casemiro
Fred
Antony
Fernandes ©
Sancho
Rashford

Substitutes: Heaton, Lindelof, Malacia, Eriksen, McTominay, Pellistri, Elanga, Garnacho, Ronaldo.

Erik ten Hag makes one change from the side that drew with Newcastle on Sunday, as Marcus Rashford comes in for Cristiano Ronaldo in attack.

Christian Eriksen returns to the bench having missed the game against the Magpies, whilst Scott McTominay is also recalled after serving his one-match suspension.
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post Oct 20 2022, 02:33 AM

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Haiz ... Fred again.
It is either we lost or a draw.
No chance to win with Fred as no.8

I still blame Ten Hag for not giving a single minutes to Zidane after the season start.
If not can have him playing for 20 ~ 30 mins.

Although Eriksen is back from sickness, don't think he can make it even as substitution.
Ten Hag put him on bench mainly for morale boost only.
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post Oct 20 2022, 02:53 AM

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European Super League is back on the news again. They release a statement that they are going to relaunch it back in 2024/2025. No wonder Glazers still relax even when the club financial is in red.
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post Oct 20 2022, 03:19 AM

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Expecting another sloopy passes night

How many times sancho failed to control a ball already

This post has been edited by areankim: Oct 20 2022, 03:24 AM
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post Oct 20 2022, 03:23 AM

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Counter vs counter so far..
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post Oct 20 2022, 03:36 AM

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3-4 pass Spurs can get into United box, happen twice now..
Thank god they are wasteful..

That one nice through ball from Fred..
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post Oct 20 2022, 03:43 AM

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Hugo having a superman game tonight
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post Oct 20 2022, 03:49 AM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Oct 20 2022, 03:43 AM)
Hugo having a superman game tonight
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Rashford should've scored that clear cut chance..
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post Oct 20 2022, 03:55 AM

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Fred is on top form so far, but then he started to do something he shouldn't do.
Long shoot with right leg, haiz ...
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post Oct 20 2022, 03:57 AM

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We are playing well, hopefully we can score to capitalize.
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post Oct 20 2022, 03:57 AM

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 20 2022, 03:49 AM)
Rashford should've scored that clear cut chance..
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Rashford need many chances baru can convert 1 goal.. biasa la biggrin.gif
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post Oct 20 2022, 04:03 AM

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u know what.. i think the FA really want to destroy man utd .. ball hit face, free kick... when hit MU face, advantage.. awesome


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post Oct 20 2022, 04:03 AM

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Oct 20 2022, 03:57 AM)
We are playing well, hopefully we can score to capitalize.
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Really well.. must not waste it..
So many interception.. Spurs cant get their flow going..

Casemiro been class..
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post Oct 20 2022, 04:05 AM

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Before half time end, the players already have no more strength to keep the intensity.

If no fresh leg is introduced in this match, then I really dunno what Ten Hag is thinking.

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