https://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-...h-3ndp1msr.html


which one better?


HOPE PANASONIC HAVE SUCH FUNCTION ALSO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Product Specifications:

Power supply: 240 V, 50Hz

Power consumption:3.6 kW

Water Pressure (kgf / cm) MaX: 3.87 kgf / cm

Water Pressure (kgf / cm) Min: 0.05 kgf / cm

Water Pressure (kPa) MaX: 380 kPa

Water Pressure (kPa) Min: 4.9 kPa



Jet Pump : DC PUMP

Power Selection: Digital Temperature Control with LCD

Power Stop System : One Push Stop System

Water Stop System: One Push Stop System

Body Color: Skin Silver

Dimension (H X W X D) mm: 380 X 200 X 89

Shower Head Color: Skin Silver

Design : Oval

Spray Type: 3-Way

Shower Plate :Ag+ Anti Bacteria

Body Weight (Net) Kg: 3.0kg

e-CYCLE: Yes

e-HYBRID :No

Large LCD Display: Yes








Rain Shower: Yes

9 Safety Device Push On-Off Switch: Yes

Built-in ELB: Yes

Heater Unit: Copper

Auto Thermal Cut Off: 55C

Manual Reset Thermostat: Yes

Water Flow Sensor: Yes

Water Splash Proof: IP25




Low Noise Operation

Low Noise DC Pump

The DC pump gives you both a powerful water flow and quiet operation. You can feel free to take a shower late at night or after the family has gone to sleep.

*Made In Japan DC pump

The Comfort of a Steady Temperature









Structure: Insulated

Material: Non Flammable Material Compliance

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Sep 21 2022, 10:34 AM

when pump rosak heater still ok
have to change new one

Pana for safety

Alpha is best

no comparison...totally different system and experience altogether.

This..... TS didn't specify his 2nd option if not using Panasonic water heater... But if I recall correctly, I used this exact same model(just without the rain shower head) before, it's not hot enough even at max temp at max water flow rate when compared to solar heater

Yup, totally different system.
This unker is very weird.

Despite using Grohe at home, I would say in this case, Panasonic is better since it would provide you warm water for shower.

Shower system without mixer & storage water heater is useless.

i choose the one that got amoi shower with me together

Huh ?

Grohe. warm water is for pussies. Cold water exposure increases testosterone production in men, presumably as part of our “flight or fight” response to perceived danger. Not only is your testosterone level responsible for your virility, it’s also a vital component of muscle synthesis. So a cold shower after a heavy gym session should help you grow.

I have been cold showering twice a day for 7 years

Feeling good

Alpha fan okay
12 years still going strong at living room with no Aircon

Alpha water heater was nice with separate pump and heater control
But Kong just after 2 years I think?
Now Pana still strong after 5 years

Just bought Panasonic heater with digital display + Jet Pump to replace the Alpha.
World difference.. Panasonic DC Pump is way silent than Alpha.
Alpha after replace the DC Pump, motherboard rosak very problematic after 5 years warranty over.

how la compare?
one is with pump and heater- complete system
another is just rain shower with mixer. Looks like there is no mixer also.

what does TS want?

do you encounter before?

the grohe water shower come with a pump?

Why do we need to shower hot water in hot and humid tropical country like Malaysia?

Ts live in Cameron highlands ?

grohe that one is showerpipe but without mixer la ..

you still need a mixer / water heater to use it .

same model with my thread?

so better i just bought panasonic one, all have in 1 system?