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 [WTA] Which Insurance is better for savings?, Need some opinion before I wanna buy =)

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yewkhuay
post Oct 5 2007, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Oct 5 2007, 12:31 PM)
Are you manulife agent..?
What is the package called..?
Any source for reference..?
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for guranteed income/savings plan this few companies has got their own ones :
1 Prudential
2. AIA
3. ING
4. Great Eastern
5. Manulife
6. AmAssurance
7. HLA

i used to have a excel file comparing each of the plan in detail, lost with my laptop, waiting for my fren to send it back to me .anyone need can PM me coz i donno how to post it here. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Oct 5 2007, 01:08 PM

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All habis stepped from b00n, dreamer and yewkhuay.

Btw,
What's the purpose of insurance?
The answer is you-know-what.

Else, if you want others, goes for better investment vehicle than insurance.
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post Oct 5 2007, 01:11 PM

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hmm.gif yewkhuay,

Can send to me smile.gif
Coz I'm comparing and want to buy for my parents who's getting old.

And I don't know buying insurance for my parents is wise or not. Please advice much much.
yewkhuay
post Oct 5 2007, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Oct 5 2007, 01:11 PM)
hmm.gif yewkhuay,

Can send to me smile.gif
Coz I'm comparing and want to buy for my parents who's getting old.

And I don't know buying insurance for my parents is wise or not. Please advice much much.
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income /savings plan is not for ppl getting old but more for ppl getting ready for retirement...i think u r looking for medical plan or critical illness coverage for ur parents....

i hav to wait for my fren to reply if he still keep the file, PM me email adress then. icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by yewkhuay: Oct 5 2007, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ Oct 5 2007, 01:13 PM)
income /savings plan is not for ppl getting old but more for ppl getting ready for retirement...i think u r looking for medical plan or critical illness coverage for ur parents....

i hav to wait for my fren to reply if he still keep the file, PM me email adress then. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Oh yes, I'm not into insurance savings, but a insurance coverage (a.k.a protection) for my parents against illness.

I'll PM you soon. Thanks icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 5 2007, 01:27 PM

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Quoted from Manulife's website..

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ManuIncome Plan
ManuIncome Plan is specially designed to provide protection with potentially high returns through cash dividends and a steady source of guaranteed future income. Benefits from this plan could be enjoyed by 3 generations of a family.

Key Features
.  Whole Life protection
Level premiums payable throughout the lifetime of the insured
.  Annual dividends and guaranteed cash payments
.  Coverage against Death and against Total & Permanent Disability
.  A selection of optional riders to complement your coverage
Could you explain what does the bold statement means..?
I thought you said that we only need to pay for 13 years..?
Correct me if I got it wrong, not good with insurance terms.. smile.gif
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post Oct 5 2007, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Oct 5 2007, 01:17 PM)
Oh yes, I'm not into insurance savings, but a insurance coverage (a.k.a protection) for my parents against illness.

I'll PM you soon. Thanks icon_rolleyes.gif
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Ya, there are a few plans available in the market that suit your protection needs.

However, before recommending any products, u can provide the age range of your parents , the requirement and expetation of the policy u plan to buy on..

for protection againts illnesses, i can recommend a supreme living care plus frm great eastern..

more info, pm me..

regards..
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=.=" Sorry but I wont go thru agent first.
I'll wait for yewkhuay analysis report before deciding.

There's pros and cons in this world smile.gif
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post Oct 5 2007, 02:35 PM

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Hmm can I have that report too ?

1 Prudential
2. AIA
3. ING
4. Great Eastern
5. Manulife
6. AmAssurance
7. HLA

I've never heard of Manulife. Where's their office?
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QUOTE(Jordy @ Oct 5 2007, 01:27 PM)
Quoted from Manulife's website..
Could you explain what does the bold statement means..?
I thought you said that we only need to pay for 13 years..?
Correct me if I got it wrong, not good with insurance terms.. smile.gif
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THe statement means ur premium will no increase...as some others like medical premium will increase... smile.gif hope that clear....kekek
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post Oct 5 2007, 02:45 PM

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waiting for the reports as well..smile.gif
pls let us knw after u got back ur file..tq r
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QUOTE(xcutelilgal @ Oct 5 2007, 02:35 PM)
Hmm can I have that report too ?

1 Prudential
2. AIA
3. ING
4. Great Eastern
5. Manulife
6. AmAssurance
7. HLA

I've never heard of Manulife. Where's their office?
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Its normal for young ppl dun know abt manulife....cos i saw mostly manulife recruit above age ppl...not like GE, AIA, Prudential...a lot of youngster..... tongue.gif
Their office at Damansara....

Initially was British American > John Hancock > manulife
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post Oct 5 2007, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Oct 5 2007, 01:11 PM)
hmm.gif yewkhuay,

Can send to me smile.gif
Coz I'm comparing and want to buy for my parents who's getting old.

And I don't know buying insurance for my parents is wise or not. Please advice much much.
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is very espensive to buy insurance for old people ... hmm.gif

insurance company love young and healthy people ...
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Manulife tongue.gif Kinda not interested in it.
Coz your guys agent kept on calling me non-stop laugh.gif
Later will call up maxis to block the phone number tongue.gif
Irritating as they call during I'm in office.


Added on October 5, 2007, 3:01 pm
QUOTE(clsiluf @ Oct 5 2007, 02:57 PM)
is very espensive to buy insurance for old people ...  hmm.gif

insurance company love young and healthy people ...
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Because old people = high percentage for getting illness.

Young people = Low percentage for getting illness.

Why?
Once we have illness, insurance company need to fork out our medical bill with their own money.

And that's where lies a lot of agent why are after youngster for insurance than visiting house to house for their parents.
Obvious isn't it?

This post has been edited by temptation1314: Oct 5 2007, 03:01 PM
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i believe all insurance company have the person u face(so call manulife agent)....as this really depend on the individual agent the way they be a sales agent....


Added on October 5, 2007, 4:25 pmbetween buying for older age ppl defininte is very expensive.....somehow need medical check up....& worse the insurance company might not accept to buy becos older age is more higher risk potential to critical illness.....

This post has been edited by DerekKuah: Oct 5 2007, 04:25 PM
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post Oct 5 2007, 05:19 PM

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a lot of my working frens still reluctant to buy insurance ... which is very wrong mindset ...

they keep thinking insurance is mlm ... con people's stuff ...

they prefer to save all money in the bank
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post Oct 5 2007, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(clsiluf @ Oct 5 2007, 05:19 PM)
a lot of my working frens still reluctant to buy insurance ... which is very wrong mindset ...

they keep thinking insurance is mlm ... con people's stuff ...

they prefer to save all money in the bank
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clsiluf,

1) Do you know that in most cases, they are probably correct?? It is a waste of money for most of them.

<<they keep thinking insurance is mlm ... con people's stuff ...>>

2) That is true in a lot of cases too when people buy insurance that they do not need.

<<which is very wrong mindset ..>>

3) It is ONLY a wrong mindset if you are an insurance agent trying to sell to them.

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Oct 5 2007, 02:29 PM)
=.=" Sorry but I wont go thru agent first.
I'll wait for yewkhuay analysis report before deciding.

There's pros and cons in this world smile.gif
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it's just a comparison from some aspects especially when ppl wanto know about figure...
don decide based on my report, talk to ur agent n ask them enuf questions.

QUOTE(xcutelilgal @ Oct 5 2007, 02:35 PM)
Hmm can I have that report too ?

1 Prudential
2. AIA
3. ING
4. Great Eastern
5. Manulife
6. AmAssurance
7. HLA

I've never heard of Manulife. Where's their office?
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i will need ur email add.

QUOTE(myintbiz @ Oct 5 2007, 02:45 PM)
waiting for the reports as well..smile.gif
pls let us knw after u got back ur file..tq r
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pm me email add as well.

QUOTE(clsiluf @ Oct 5 2007, 02:57 PM)
is very espensive to buy insurance for old people ...  hmm.gif

insurance company love young and healthy people ...
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don't always look at the premium, look at ur premium vs protection u get for the old ppl which most likely they r gonna need it in next 5-10yrs.
how expensive can a medical card be if u pay only 2-3K/yr vs medical bill of 50-200K covered ?

QUOTE(clsiluf @ Oct 5 2007, 05:19 PM)
a lot of my working frens still reluctant to buy insurance ... which is very wrong mindset ...

they keep thinking insurance is mlm ... con people's stuff ...

they prefer to save all money in the bank
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may be they just prefer to be con in buying car / clothes / house / watches ....
u buy what u think worth for u , in insurance, is protection. the rest above, figure out urself. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Oct 5 2007, 07:07 PM)
clsiluf,

1)  Do you know that in most cases, they are probably correct?? It is a waste of money for most of them.

<<they keep thinking insurance is mlm ... con people's stuff ...>>

2) That is true in a lot of cases too when people buy insurance that they do not need.

<<which is very wrong mindset ..>>

3) It is ONLY a wrong mindset if you are an insurance agent trying to sell to them.

Dreamer
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There's one thing that annoyed me the most, and this is the reason why so many people claim as MLM which is true.
Ask yourself, where do commission come from?
2nd thing, even we reject and said we don't want, they insist and ask us to buy. Isn't it gone too far to force a person to buy insurance that he do not need at all?
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Oct 5 2007, 07:38 PM)
There's one thing that annoyed me the most, and this is the reason why so many people claim as MLM which is true.
Ask yourself, where do commission come from?
2nd thing, even we reject and said we don't want, they insist and ask us to buy. Isn't it gone too far to force a person to buy insurance that he do not need at all?
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1. commision is paid by the company to the agent not by clients but using premium size as a scale , it is fair in business world as job tht involves SALES like car , house , medicine , machine, spareparts, material..... which doesn't pay the agent/employee commission/incentive based on sales brought in ? be fair with insurance agents, they r just making a living . nod.gif

2. tht is a bit too much if the agent keep bugging a client to close the case. doh.gif shakehead.gif

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