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icemanfx
post May 24 2023, 07:03 PM

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RM has been on downtrend in the last few decades. As there is no change in gomen policy, RM devaluation is likely to continue.
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post May 24 2023, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 24 2023, 07:03 PM)
RM has been on downtrend in the last few decades. As there is no change in gomen policy, RM devaluation is likely to continue.
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Won’t change unless the bunch of fools in BNM will have to change 1st πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ even the last OPR hike was supposed to stem the depreciation yet depreciated 3% in less than a month
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post May 24 2023, 10:10 PM

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Ringgit is the second worst performing currency
BNM is weak in raising OPR
Ringgit is beyond rescue
Our FD rate are supposed to be higher than USD to attract foreign investor
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post May 24 2023, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(umboy @ May 24 2023, 10:10 PM)
Ringgit is the second worst performing currency
BNM is weak in raising OPR
Ringgit is beyond rescue
Our FD rate are supposed to be higher than USD to attract foreign investor
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And US have higher FD than us. Lol.
nexona88
post May 24 2023, 11:49 PM

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Old days US have very low FD or interest rates...

But now everything changes..... All funds going back to US market/shores πŸ’ͺ
icemanfx
post May 24 2023, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 24 2023, 11:49 PM)
Old days US have very low FD or interest rates...

But now everything changes..... All funds going back to US market/shores πŸ’ͺ
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Money goes where there is higher yield/gain. why bother with rm, when usd give higher interest and appreciation.

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post May 24 2023, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 24 2023, 11:53 PM)
Money goes where there is higher yield/gain. why bother with rm, when usd give higher interest and appreciation.
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One reason previously because of low interest rate environment there.....

But now all changes...

So all back to the shores...

Thus hurting MYR in the process too....
icemanfx
post May 25 2023, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 24 2023, 11:55 PM)
One reason previously because of low interest rate environment there.....

But now all changes...

So all back to the shores...

Thus hurting MYR in the process too....
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US fed policy doesn't take 3rd world currency or economy into account. if bnm and mys gomen failed to adapt to us feb policy, will have to face the consequences.

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post May 25 2023, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 25 2023, 12:01 AM)
US fed policy doesn't take 3rd world currency or economy into account. if bnm and mys gomen failed to adapt to us feb policy, will have to face the consequences.
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True..

It's others countries that follows US policies....

Need to adjust accordingly
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post May 26 2023, 03:31 PM

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Gosh,.. you guys have really lost confidence in this place. Glad I ported out a lot of funds in the early-2000's...
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post May 26 2023, 04:50 PM

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post May 26 2023, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(umboy @ May 24 2023, 10:10 PM)
Ringgit is the second worst performing currency
BNM is weak in raising OPR
Ringgit is beyond rescue
Our FD rate are supposed to be higher than USD to attract foreign investor
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How can it be the 2nd worst performing currency when Zimbabwe and Argentina and Venezuela are worse than Malaysia πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ weakest in ASEAN in 2023 probably

No investors bother about FD rates πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ but more consistent govt policies and stability which is why Vietnam will overtake Malaysia within middle of this decade

QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 25 2023, 12:32 AM)
True..

It's others countries that follows US policies....

Need to adjust accordingly
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As long as BNM has reserves in IMF and World Bank it will have adjust based on Fed policies

QUOTE(Hansel @ May 26 2023, 03:31 PM)
Gosh,.. you guys have really lost confidence in this place. Glad I ported out a lot of funds in the early-2000's...
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Yes as long as economic structure and policies doesn’t change and revamp RM will go down to drain more πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ
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post May 26 2023, 07:49 PM

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The reason is simple. A good buisness takes years to generate values. Certain groups look for tongkat and handouts and the government is forced to go for short term policy. Raising interest rate is not a long term solution. Companies are paying peanuts in Malaysia and no good people want to work in Malaysia. There goes the vicious cycle. Unless we go for a merit based policy, this country won't improve. Currency rate will just drop further.
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post May 26 2023, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(koaydarren @ May 26 2023, 07:49 PM)
The reason is simple. A good buisness takes years to generate values. Certain groups look for tongkat and handouts and the government is forced to go for short term policy. Raising interest rate is not a long term solution. Companies are paying peanuts in Malaysia and no good people want to work in Malaysia. There goes the vicious cycle. Unless we go for a merit based policy, this country won't improve. Currency rate will just drop further.
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Don't forget....

The good businesses somehow later stage would be forced take over in the name of country benefits πŸ˜”

Already have previous cases happens before.... Just saying πŸ˜‰
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post May 26 2023, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ May 26 2023, 07:28 PM)
How can it be the 2nd worst performing currency when Zimbabwe and Argentina and Venezuela are worse than Malaysia πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ weakest in ASEAN in 2023 probably

No investors bother about FD rates πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ but more consistent govt policies and stability which is why Vietnam will overtake Malaysia within middle of this decade
As long as BNM has reserves in IMF and World Bank it will have adjust based on Fed policies
Yes as long as economic structure and policies doesn’t change and revamp RM will go down to drain more πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ
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Until there is a drastic change in legacy policies, RM devaluation will likely continue.

QUOTE(koaydarren @ May 26 2023, 07:49 PM)
The reason is simple. A good buisness takes years to generate values. Certain groups look for tongkat and handouts and the government is forced to go for short term policy. Raising interest rate is not a long term solution. Companies are paying peanuts in Malaysia and no good people want to work in Malaysia. There goes the vicious cycle. Unless we go for a merit based policy, this country won't improve. Currency rate will just drop further.
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Low productivity, low pay is natural. Even at this low pay, few FDI is interested.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 26 2023, 08:34 PM)
Don't forget....

The good businesses somehow later stage would be forced take over in the name of country benefits πŸ˜”

Already have previous cases happens before.... Just saying πŸ˜‰
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This post has been edited by icemanfx: May 26 2023, 08:54 PM
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post May 27 2023, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 26 2023, 11:57 PM)
Then has to accept sgd = rm3.9 by year end.
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Unlikely πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ more like rm3.50+ is a reality this year
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post May 27 2023, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ May 27 2023, 01:44 PM)
Unlikely πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ more like rm3.50+ is a reality this year
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It is all depends on what action bnm will take.

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post May 27 2023, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 27 2023, 01:51 PM)
It is all depends on what action bnm will take.
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BNM won’t take any action anyway πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ until they receive instructions

Even the recent the hike was supposed to defend the RM but yet it can’t support and RM depreciate past RM4.50
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post May 27 2023, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 27 2023, 02:11 PM)
Then SGD to 3.9 RM by year end is almost a certainty.
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Still high unlikely πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ because SGD will depreciating slightly towards this year end πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

Last spike was back in Aug 2014 was at 2.48 and it took entire year for it to spike 3.12 in Aug 2015

Now it is range bound whereby below 3 is high unlikely and the lowest it will go will be 3.15
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post May 28 2023, 11:31 PM

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SGD is slowly coming down a bit, it was 3.358 at MVD today.

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