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mezanny
post Sep 6 2022, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(moveonlah @ Sep 5 2022, 08:46 PM)
ok i accept ur point. On kids education i really dunno, as i feel that the edu pathway in SG is quite uncertain, very dependent on own kids' ability.  in Msia, more certainty and options to ensure ur kid has a good degree. 
But on politics, i give u a counter-argument -- that songlap news doesn't affect our lives as much as we think. I used to think so too, always read news get upset here and there. But end of the day, it didn't really affect my day-to-day life, or maybe i just cannot see it yet.
Yes I am, with very few hobbies and social life. I define myself by my career, hence ex-colleagues being big part of my KL life.
true. but when weighing things up to decide whether to move, usually the topic of children's future comes up and carries big weight in decision. and ppl usually come to the conclusion that it's better in SG. I did too, but can't remember exactly why. maybe i was swayed by domestic news and stuff like that at the time
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songlap news doesn't affect ?

politicians too busy and caught up with songlap, you think they be making good policy decisions?
bad economy decisions result in bad careers generally for us.
you job maybe good to you, but imagine with good govt policy, your career would have been 3X better.

with the 90/10 ratio for certain people to public university, yout think education opportunities would be better here than Spore ?

if u like it so much to work here in msia, what the heck, quit ur job and come back here lah. Eat your heart out. Many more msians would relish taking ur place.
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post Sep 6 2022, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(moveonlah @ Sep 5 2022, 08:46 PM)
But on politics, i give u a counter-argument -- that songlap news doesn't affect our lives as much as we think. I used to think so too, always read news get upset here and there. But end of the day, it didn't really affect my day-to-day life, or maybe i just cannot see it yet.
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If u convert your MYR saving to SGD 10 years ago, your saving in MYR now increased by 3x% by doing nothing, it beats bank fixed deposit by doing nothing! Our buying power is getting worse and worse, just most of the ppl dint notice it, things get expensive not just because of eventual inflation, also because our gov are corrupted. By the time you retired, your asset are devalue greatly if compare with other better currency.

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post Sep 6 2022, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(dudewhatisthis @ Sep 5 2022, 10:10 PM)
Wah your old job sounds great. Mind sharing the name of the company or at least the industry/job, TS?

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As for advice, I think everyone here already said what needs to be said.
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there were plenty of frustrations too of course, and turnover was actually quite high (i was lucky), but looking back i only remember the good stuff. i work in a niche part of financial services supporting commercial institutions

QUOTE(mezanny @ Sep 6 2022, 08:49 AM)
songlap news doesn't affect ?

politicians too busy and caught up with songlap, you think they be making good policy decisions?
bad economy decisions result in bad careers generally for us.
you job maybe good to you, but imagine with good govt policy, your career would have been 3X better.

with the 90/10 ratio for certain people to public university, yout think education opportunities would be better here than Spore ?

if u like it so much to work here in msia, what the heck, quit ur job and come back here lah. Eat your heart out. Many more msians would relish taking ur place.
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i didn't mean to come off as having 'tidak apa' view towards the songlap, and i realise my comment might be taken the wrong way so i apologise if could have worded better. of cos its not good in the long run, who can deny this? but my original point is whether ppl make decisions to move country based on macro issues like corruption? usually its micro issues like job opportunity, living standards, etc. more specific to the person and their family . e.g. i wouldn't move to Switzerland just because corruption is low. if i moved its because i see myself having a better life there for whatsoever reason

QUOTE(ragk @ Sep 6 2022, 11:23 AM)
If u convert your MYR saving to SGD 10 years ago, your saving in MYR now increased by 3x% by doing nothing, it beats bank fixed deposit by doing nothing! Our buying power is getting worse and worse, just most of the ppl dint notice it, things get expensive not just because of eventual inflation, also because our gov are corrupted.
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yes, i guess buying power has reduced due to ringgit depreciation. but i must admit to me it felt quite gradual since 2015 when GST came in (altho I haven't been in Msia a lot over past 1 year so dunno current situation)
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post Sep 7 2022, 09:17 AM

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did u try maintaining good relationship with the previous boss/superior? if yes, no harm to try chat with him and see if he open to possibility to re-hire u back, been there done that
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post Sep 7 2022, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(moveonlah @ Aug 26 2022, 09:18 PM)
Reaching out to /k, many of whom are from all walks of life, very experienced and seen all there is to see in their corporate careers. Seeking advice and whether similar experiences have been encountered by more worldly, wiser heads than mine.

For 8 years I was in a stable MNC job in KL -- final base salary of ~RM40k, generous benefits, consistently 40 hour work week and rarely more. I was well-liked by my superior (the CEO), and I had a group of colleagues who became my friends who I also met outside office hours, which I regard as the high watermark for workplace friendship. 2 years ago due to various internal movements (i.e. some senior people left) I was earmarked as a potential future Country Head and things were looking rosy, though of course nothing was committed at these senior positions.

In early 2021, two things happened.  The company had a change in ownership so the CEO was replaced, followed by some other changes in management.  But my job remained unaffected, and the wider scope I was promised was still on the table for me.  Around the same time I received a job offer from SG, offering $20k+ base.  This was out of the blue given my age (early 40s), so I took this offer and moved over with my family (primary school children).  I could say it was driven by personal reasons (for children future etc.), but to be honest I had no problem staying in KL my hometown. 

12 months later, I find myself unable to move on from my previous job. This SG job has been great, after some initial challenges I have started to settle in.  And moreover SG has been an easy place to adapt to.  So I should have no complaints. 

But I still think about my previous job.  12 months on I am still closer to my ex-colleagues in KL than my current colleagues in SG.  I see my peers in other companies moving up and taking very senior positions in Malaysia, and constantly look back on what could have been had I stayed. I appreciate with new ownership and management things may not have been that great for me in the same company, but still I look back with rose-tinted glasses.  The corporate setup in SG is such that there are many layers of management compared to in KL, so there is little chance for promotion within the next 5 years or more. It would also be tough to move back due to children's schooling, etc., and anyway my previous job has been filled.

Have you ever regretted moving on from your old job?  How long before you got over it, or do you ever get over it?
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it's like thinking about your ex, the what ifs in life, the road less travelled. just move on, as time and tide waits for no man.
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post Sep 23 2022, 02:56 AM

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Look ever forward. Move on TS. All the best!

 

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