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 Automatic Gate, How much do you need to install one ?

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donnwyt
post Jul 5 2011, 11:56 PM

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hi guys, anyone of you ever replaced an old autogate system before i.e. change to new gate without any autogate system? I bought a house and the old autogate is in bad shape and one side cacat. Not sure if I should fix the old gate or just change it...
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post Jul 6 2011, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(donnwyt @ Jul 5 2011, 11:56 PM)
hi guys, anyone of you ever replaced an old autogate system before i.e. change to new gate without any autogate system? I bought a house and the old autogate is in bad shape and one side cacat. Not sure if I should fix the old gate or just change it...
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Depend on the condition. Repairing autogate might cost alot. Depend which part to change. Normally wil cost few hundred. If you have budget, just get a new set. It is worth than repair the old 1. Repaired product alsp cannot gurantee how long can it last again rite?
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post Jul 6 2011, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(donnwyt @ Jul 6 2011, 12:56 AM)
hi guys, anyone of you ever replaced an old autogate system before i.e. change to new gate without any autogate system? I bought a house and the old autogate is in bad shape and one side cacat. Not sure if I should fix the old gate or just change it...
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Not worth to repair. Spares may not be able to get if they are very old.
Sometimes have to use salvage parts for other old system. The the question of durability.

Long run, you may be better off getting a new set which comes with warranty.


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post Jul 6 2011, 11:27 AM

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Sample video of sw720 i installed before.





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phoenix69
post Jul 21 2011, 06:50 PM

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[quote=loong1111,Jul 5 2011, 08:09 AM]
Last time legate is good but nw i think their quality drop already. I think their production manager changed already. U have to pay the maintaince service fee every year to maintain the warranty. Using stainless steel solid pipe to make rail is a stupit action. Most important is the foundation of the rail. Actually their technical point r outdated already. Nw there are alot autogate with better features. Im personally doing r&d on smart autogate sytem. However not going to launch so fast.

Hi loong1111, when are you going to launch your gate design? I am looking at options now. Please share.. hmm.gif
jeffchan345
post Jul 28 2011, 11:26 PM

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i booked mine in exhibition, seems like the price is on the high side. Regret not doing any research before purchasing.

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post Aug 6 2011, 12:09 PM

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Some additional information on autogate here
jutamind
post Aug 6 2011, 08:02 PM

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anyone using mag wing 303 auto gate system? is it reliable and post sales service good? how much is the price for the system & installation?
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post Aug 7 2011, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jun 23 2011, 01:12 PM)
according to google translator  smile.gif 

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You can ask your gate fabricator..

BTW, if you are galvanising the gate, you need to apply the following surface protection system. Else, there will not be proper adhesion between the paint and the galvanised surface. After sometime the paint will start peeling off.  sad.gif

1. Hot dip galvanising
2. Etching primer - can get from most hardware shops
3. Finish coat - can be Micaceous Iron Oxide or the normal Nippon/ Jotun paint
Many of the workshop (I meant those the make the gate & grille) does not know this. This what what I come across when I was try to do up my front gate. They just apply the normal red oxide and the finishing coat. Few months/ years later, the paint starts coming off.  sad.gif
However, the galvanising remains if properly done.
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Hi kelvyn, this is very good info. I will use this when I next source for an autogate. Thanks notworthy.gif

After this 3 process, for an autogate, what do they do for a finishing coat, paint over or powder coated? Which one better? Is it required?

Is the same principle applied to window grills? Is it required? icon_question.gif

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post Aug 7 2011, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Aug 7 2011, 11:09 AM)
Hi kelvyn, this is very good info. I will use this when I next source for an autogate. Thanks  notworthy.gif

After this 3 process, for an autogate, what do they do for a finishing coat, paint over or powder coated? Which one better? Is it required?

Is the same principle applied to window grills? Is it required?  icon_question.gif
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Hi phoenix69,

For gate that are exposed to our weather. The MS gate is hot dip galvanised and followed by Etching primer.
The finishing coat can be Micaceous Iron Oxide (which is what I used for mine) or you could paint with the normal gloss finish paints.

Powder coating is a different process and the contractors will not charge cheap. I have not used power coating, so cannot comment.

For the window grilles which are not exposed to the rain, No need to galvanise unless you have the extra cash to throw around smile.gif

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post Aug 7 2011, 05:45 PM

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Kelvin, which brand of etching primer you using? I source 3 h/w shop nearby asking for etching primer they just give me a blur face!...

Need to find few tong and give it to the grill maker for my gate and expose grill.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 7 2011, 06:45 PM)
Kelvin, which brand of etching primer you using? I source 3 h/w shop nearby asking for etching primer they just give me a blur face!...

Need to find few tong and give it to the grill maker for my gate and expose grill.
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this is what I used Nippon Etching Primer 120

http://www.nipponpaint.com.my/professional...=14&rangeID=114

Cost me RM90 for 5 lit tong
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post Aug 7 2011, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Aug 7 2011, 05:54 PM)
this is what I used Nippon Etching Primer 120

http://www.nipponpaint.com.my/professional...=14&rangeID=114

Cost me RM90 for 5 lit tong
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Thank you.
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does the swing arm type auto gate has a lock/pin (which is contained in a iron box) in the centre to lock the auto gate?

if no, isnt it possible to pull the gate open forcefully from outside since there's no lock mechanism/barrier in the centre?

sorry for the basic question. still new to swing arm type system.

PS: am using the ground embedded system with a central lock.
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post Aug 10 2011, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Aug 10 2011, 03:53 PM)
does the swing arm type auto gate has a lock/pin (which is contained in a iron box) in the centre to lock the auto gate?

if no, isnt it possible to pull the gate open forcefully from outside since there's no lock mechanism/barrier in the centre?

sorry for the basic question. still new to swing arm type system.

PS: am using the ground embedded system with a central lock.
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The center lock is called solenoid.

For conceal autogate is much easier to pull the gate hence they install the solenoid. I spoke to an autogate installer and he told me the arm are using screw type gear to open / close the gate hence it need more force to open up the gate.

The solenoid for the conceal autogate do have its disadvantage, Very easy to open too, just take metal bar lift the gate a bit, the solenoid will be unlock.

Want better safety, install EM lock on the gate. Sure can't open
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post Aug 10 2011, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 10 2011, 04:08 PM)
The center lock is called solenoid.

For conceal autogate is much easier to pull the gate hence they install the solenoid. I spoke to an autogate installer and he told me the arm are using screw type gear to open / close the gate hence it need more force to open up the gate.

The solenoid for the conceal autogate do have its disadvantage, Very easy to open too, just take metal bar lift the gate a bit, the solenoid will be unlock.

Want better safety, install EM lock on the gate. Sure can't open
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ok thanks for the info. very helpful.

what about the system like DCMOTO? i thought they're using gears as well to open/close the gate. is there a lock mechanism for such system?

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post Aug 10 2011, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Aug 10 2011, 10:10 PM)
ok thanks for the info. very helpful.

what about the system like DCMOTO? i thought they're using gears as well to open/close the gate. is there a lock mechanism for such system?
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You referring to the link below? From the brochure it have a solenoid build in, maybe act as the same function. You can call them up and check.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_frjVTLO_knY/SAS-...h/auto+gate.jpg
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post Aug 11 2011, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 10 2011, 04:08 PM)
The center lock is called solenoid.

For conceal autogate is much easier to pull the gate hence they install the solenoid. I spoke to an autogate installer and he told me the arm are using screw type gear to open / close the gate hence it need more force to open up the gate.

The solenoid for the conceal autogate do have its disadvantage, Very easy to open too, just take metal bar lift the gate a bit, the solenoid will be unlock.

Want better safety, install EM lock on the gate. Sure can't open
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weikee, i also think same with you that screw type gear better. hv u install this type gate? who has purchased from forumer 'loong1111'?
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post Aug 15 2011, 10:52 PM

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Hi. I will upload some of the sw720 motor interior motor and gearbox design soon. The design is alot better than local arm. R&D still in proccess. Currently im not yet sell any this motor to forumer.
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Aug 10 2011, 10:10 PM)
ok thanks for the info. very helpful.

what about the system like DCMOTO? i thought they're using gears as well to open/close the gate. is there a lock mechanism for such system?
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planning to get one DCMOTO....hope its good!!! smile.gif

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