May I know if commercial property with 1st and second floor, can be modified to be stayed overnight and if it is legal?

for your own use or u plan to rent it out?

This post has been edited by COOLPINK: Aug 17 2022, 02:13 PM

If really go law by law many sovo sofo unit cannot use for residential purpose and yet Dev keep sellin them je

what i heard is no activity allow after working hour.
unless u register as hotel, homestay or related biz

so u must keep quiet hide inside.

I think no issue. Many traditional family use to run the business on ground floor & stays at the upper floor. The only set back, you cannot complaint if noisy due to commercial activity / no car park because it is not meant for residential at the first place.

No, not for these two purposes. Someone who rented it and use for residential and made complaint to Health department that the operation affected his health.

No you can't. It is made known the surrounding operation is for commercial, the complaint will hold no water legally / from town council. It will closed as "no further action".

i see.

i dun think the health department going to care about his complaint since he using commercial unit as residential.
there is a reason why it is designated as a commercial unit in the first place.

No, the health department didn't know it is commercial propert/shop out at first floor.

then someone should inform them.

its funny that guy think staying in commercial units will grant him the same privaleges as a residential unit.

Unless the owner have approval from the local authorities, they can't.

I have a unit on commercial which i convert to student dorm/living area. I need to send architect plan to local PBT and Bomba for approval.

Have you got your approval?

Wonder where and who to complain with for them to illegally stay over such shoplot?

Snap photo with evidence. Write in complaint to town / city council . Building usage is under the town/city council jurisdiction.

Yes, I got my approval but its not easy since i have to prepared proper safety measure with the recommendation of Bomba.

Thanks.

How much you spent for all of these?

Actually can for higher requirement building to be used as lower requirement building. If you want to use lower building requirement to higher building requirement , then it will not be allowed.

Residential to be used as shop - cannot. Because shop have higher building requirement.
Shop to be used as residential - no issue but the user cannot complaint why the surrounding don't meet residential's requirement.

Shop to be used as hostel / hotel - cannot because hostel/ hotel got higher requirement. It is correct that new submission to city council & relevant authorities need before you can convert it & use as such.

As I know why the shoplot can't be used for residential, as it doesn't rumah emergency exit door at the belakang if it is 1st floor.

Not necessary & it don't hold water. If it is not safe for residential for such reason, it will not be safe for commercial either. Like I said previously, to use higher building requirement for lower building requirement - no issue. To use lower building requirement for higher building requirement, it will be an issue.

Residential is less stringent when it comes to fire requirement when compare to commercial.

An example of modification from less stringent building requirement to be used as higher building requirement - to use corner lot house as taska / tadika. Original dwelling unit is less stringent, when owner want to be used it for tadika / taska purpose, the additional safety escape like staircase to external from L1 are needed.

For the shop unit to be used as residential, the existing fire escape already complied with higher requirement for residential use. Hence, there is no need further modification / enhancement needed.

This post has been edited by nihility: Aug 17 2022, 03:46 PM

Basically no issue during MCO my experience staying at shop for over 2 year because afraid later announced lockdown again cannot go here and there very annoyed

Just hope there are no bistro or pub too close to your shop

Commerical shop lot area usually more break in than house need CCTV for monitoring and install the optional steel door behind the fireproof door way before has been done

Now parking problem 8am dbkl start working easily kena compound some app can be set auto pay once 8am for some reason this area they never come for over 2 year , parking spot if i wish park at the designated spot for easily monitor my vehicle through window must come down park again after 10.30pm public parking spot always full especially the place full of cafe , make sure vehicle old enough cheap enough without tinted heck too easily window break by thief

stay behind close to toilet backend usually more nosier
Than front, if staying front walking to toilet quite far , if staying front
Alot of noise from double parking horn, loud exhaust, well depends the area

I don't drive the vehicle at all weekly i need to come down and start vehicle engine for charging battery , so i need bring the spare key as well once start use spare key lock the door go up 45 minutes later come down shut the engine off

Front and back window i need tinted so at night or morning i can looking through outside without paiseh , commerical area if someone looking through the window those people will look it back so awkward 🤣

shop during renovate already have a proper staff room can cook equip with cooking hood, can watching TV can fit 2 single size mattress and so on utility and activity

Now all i need go back home take all the clothing, buy a 2 new single size mattress, bring 2 PC and so on entertainment to shop

And shop electric bill monthly sure exceed optional RM 200 or 300

So really depends your purpose staying at shop

If you don't drive at all wakeup can straight to work without driving I guess very convincing but at the end house more convenient than staying at shop

Last 2 year my working vehicle side window break once at passenger side
Downstairs fireproof wood door has been break lucky there are last defense steel door can be lock from inside with optional lock

This post has been edited by zuozi: Aug 17 2022, 03:45 PM

Actually this is one of the setback when you use the shop as the residential. The utility tariff will be higher not only for electricity but for water & IWK as well.

its no problem if you stay in a commercial unit and know your boundaries.

thing is TS say got people rent commercial to stay as residential and then complain to health department that the surrounding environment is affecting that person health.

that person complaining is funny i tell you

This post has been edited by COOLPINK: Aug 17 2022, 03:52 PM

Spend around 5k including fee for architect and such. But that before covid around 2015.

btw others talk about electricity and water. I also went to both requesting the tariff changed.

This post has been edited by edan1979: Aug 17 2022, 03:58 PM

Any source to get this information as confirmed?

Electricity yes

Water i guess not a thing 😂 still below RM 60 this can just ignore hahaha

shop already use for business purposes monthly electric already RM 600 to 700 extra RM 200 to 300 if detuct from my vehicle fuel monthly also roughly RM 200 to 300 traveling back and forth so I guess roughly the same

Just the annoying part i need to come down start the vehicle weekly monthly have to sengaja drive for hour long distance for giving those rubber, absorber bearing moving around 😂

House more convenient than shop unless i don't need the vehicle, but without vehicle also cannot staying at shop if emergency needed without vehicle also susah

If you know how to search. Look at Uniform Building by Laws - 7th, 8th & 9th Schedule for Passive Requirement. 10th Schedule for Active requirement.

Normally Architect & Engineer will have this copy.

Ahh i see during MCO my stay at shop i also never complained anything even I saw Thai moi gathering with local uncle few dozen carlsberg take to neighbor upstairs me and my wife also never complained anything after bang bang bang 😂 all I do just crank up my speaker volume lol 😆 as long after done they mabuk don't kick my vehicle door i don't bother at all 😂