Hi all,

Im new into renovation. just want to get some idea and survey how much budget to design and renovate for 1000sf condo nowadays.

Thanks.

hi,

if you have no electrical and need to buy, i would say 50k minimum.. that was me 7 yrs ago..

wow. didn't know the simple setup already cost 50k.

my plan is to have some built-in furniture for more storage due to limited sf. so been thinking of design and build and see how much I need to spend into that.

recent 2-3 years renovation cost increase insanely.

Dont mind to have ikea furniture? quite budget i would say if you have all the designs in your mind.

I think you would need to provide more details for people to give you some more accurate estimates. For example, number of rooms, condition of condo (old or new), condo come as bare finish or partial finish, etc.

My condo that's almost 1000sqft with 2 bedrooms that was a bare unit cost me around 100k including all furniture, electrical appliances and built ins.

did you engage with ID?

i also quite dilemma to go with ID or pay for their design then look for own contractors

Budget under 50k i would say can do it your ownself. Understand the risk.
Above it, just engage ID lar.

just scared the result be rojak only if DIY

I recently got a quote = almost 1500 sqft. 130k for living room/kitchen extension/cabinets/room cabinets etc (this also include plaster ceiling and wiring).

All furniture/electronics not included for now.

the most expensive is carpentary works eg: kitchen cabinet, wardrobes etc. anything that involves wood

can easily costs up to 10k+ each depending on the dimension, materials, design etc

if you dont need to do this can save quite a lot actually

electrical works also will costs a bit more if it involves more complexity eg: hacking


if you want to ease up on cash flow, for electrical appliances and furniture, I recommend to use credit card installment (of course you need to remember your budget and spend within your means)

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Aug 17 2022, 06:25 PM

It depends how bare your unit is, the one that take a big chunk out of your cost are:-
1. Carpentry work (Built in)
2. Kitchen Cabinet + Hob and Hood (built in)
3. A/C & installation
4. Flooring redo if you don't like the current one
5. Bed & mattresses
6. Toilet/Kitchen/Yard full wall tiles (or floor tiles including Foyer if not provided)

With the basic above easily cost 40-50k

Everything else really depend on the model/brand and the design you are looking for.

forgot to mention that curtains also not cheap if you are doing full height

nowdays i think 50k can only cover kitchen cabinet (with hob hood), plaster ceiling, downlight and fan.. maybe aircond..

This post has been edited by mytaffeta: Aug 18 2022, 09:58 AM

Need to see how they plan for it, for me 50k is minimum I can do on the above for my recent unit, material and brand is a huge factor on how you can stretch the number.

Like a remote ceiling fan can range from 200+ to RM1k sebiji

sounds about right if you engaged with ID

if no ID then 50k is doable for above

was trying to engage few IDs for my 860sf condo in the past few months, the baseline ballpark figure is 60-70k, for ur reference

I have a post on my ID engagement experience this year. Can take it as reference.



If want to do customised built-in , pay for design and look for own contractor for full control if you have time .

The capetnery has different price range too if you use melamine or plywood etc. If you're not particular with plywood , IKEA is better .

Kitchen cabinet only would cost 10k. Just the basic one.

would it be time-consuming too if engage those master contractors types instead of standalone contractors for each item?

also I think ikea has plywood furniture also

Honestly if u want to avoid unwanted costs and overhead (eg: marked up pricing, management fees etc), you can skip IDs and come out with your own design, then once you have the rendering you can look for your own contractors. The materials and fittings eg: paint, lighting and switches you can bulk purchase yourself to save up even more

The software (Coohom or 酷家乐) takes some time to learn and will cost a bit of money for high res renders or premium models, but its still much cheaper than engaging an ID. Yes takes time to learn and you need to spare some time also for researching and managing your contractors (essentially you are your own project manager) but if you really want to save money then that's the trade off...

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Aug 21 2022, 02:40 PM

Hard to make it at RM10k for kitchen cabinet set

depend on size, mine was 9.7k, 8ft base and full height + wall hung unit (include fridge partition), and a 6.5ft island with cabinet on bottom, both with quartz stone table top, both plywood laminate.

if use melamine minus 2.1k, but really not recommand in kitchen, if insist to go melamine better put a aluminium foil on the sink area, melamine kena water will grow fungus ..... very fast.

Did it last year december.

This post has been edited by claudetan: Aug 27 2022, 09:59 AM

Possible if ikea metod and not too long.
If grand lengths like 15ft for sure cannot lah.

Full spec drawers everywhere on the bottom including ikea sink, cost me ~7k for ikea metod, 8 feet length bottom.



This. KDK fan also 300 for basic one, or 430-515 for Vtouch Jr/Sensa 4 each.
Cannot put the cheap regulator 60in because room too smol. And the 40" baby fan also not cheap.]

For a whole unit 800sf everything scrimp and DIY install [where possible] also ended up spending 38k including appliances. 50k seems doable for a livable space.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Aug 27 2022, 02:05 PM

Excluding E&E appliances, cap yourself budget 5% SPA (incl 1 king, 1 queen matress). I just did it for a 987ftsq 2+1 room service apartment

Did not engage any ID firm. Largest chunk goes to builtin carpentary (engage/ deal direct) use melamin boards, full height wardrobe & top hung/low kitchens cabinets to maximise storage space.

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Aug 30 2022, 09:48 AM

I was thinking the same to render using 酷家乐 and come out with the 3D design, then pass over to a master contractor to reno and manage (instead of ID / separate contractors), any advise?

the hardest part is getting the 3D render correct (this takes time to familiarise yourself with the software, I myself started learning and designing from beginning of the year whereby my house is only ready by around year end), then next is to find your own contractor. Always show them the design first and make sure they are able to do what you want, after that would be to negotiate prices etc

if you want less hassle, best to have a master contractor cover as much as possible eg: electrical, painting, ceiling, carpentary. So you only need to deal with one party instead of multiple parties. but this may come at a higher cost

if you want to maximise savings, then you can have seperate contractors for each element. But take note this will take more time including survey and planning, also it might be a pain later during renovation stage as different contractor have to overlap and work with each other (unless u do it stage by stage which again consumes more time), so you really have to manage carefully yourself. The savings might not be significant as well in the end so its probably not worth the hassle....

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Aug 31 2022, 03:22 PM