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TSKing83
post Oct 3 2007, 08:25 AM

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hehe...
coming from a SIZE DOES MATTER mentality background,
i have always been a warrior at heart. In real life, i hit the gym too trying to get big.
It's in my DNA. I am a warrior... can't expect me to run around shooting arrows. And not
just any warrior, it has to be Tauren.

Endless Rage is crap ?? How so?
Regardless of your theory about fast/slow attack, i think getting a boost of 25% more rage
is not too shabby considering it's only 1 talent level.

oh btw, did i mentioned i'm a Taurus?
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post Oct 3 2007, 08:29 AM

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no just forget about endless rage. Speccing so deep into will make u lose precious talents in the fury tree.
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post Oct 3 2007, 08:38 AM

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so this is my final one?

Is anger management good btw?
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post Oct 3 2007, 08:56 AM

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yes that build is solid enough. And anger management is good enuf to put 1 talent pt in it.
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post Oct 3 2007, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Chinhui @ Oct 3 2007, 02:29 AM)
my advise: Reroll

warrior is very gear dependable, and is nothing if you dont intend to put hard work to obtain eng game pve pvp gears, then you'll have no fun and you felt the game is against you. conclusion, you'll quit the game

I find hunter is perfect for casuals even for soloing, you can farm, pvp, instancing etc. in pvp you just need to hide and shoot from far 41yrd ftw. Hunter = easymode and not gear dependable when soloing. SO much less downtime

Edit: MS is a must for your lvl as MS is +dmg (fix) and also an instant attack, on contrast Bloodthirst is not weapon dependable, it's AP base dmg, and I sure you wont have the AP to do the decent dmg so forget it.
41 arms endless rage is crap, rage is normalised and rage gain is depend on weapon speed, slower = more rage per swing READ Careful Per swing if you get what I mean. To play a warrior effectively no matter tanking or pvping, how you manage/spend your rage is the key.
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my advice, stop being stupid.

warriors are the top tier class in the high end pvp world.
just because you're unsuccessful your class is unsuccessful as well.

and you mentioned hunters, you do realize that they are the LOWEST tier class amongst the rest right? sharing this spot are the rogues.


Added on October 3, 2007, 9:13 am
QUOTE(King83 @ Oct 3 2007, 08:25 AM)
hehe...
coming from a SIZE DOES MATTER mentality background,
i have always been a warrior at heart. In real life, i hit the gym too trying to get big.
It's in my DNA. I am a warrior... can't expect me to run around shooting arrows. And not
just any warrior, it has to be Tauren.

Endless Rage is crap ?? How so?
Regardless of your theory about fast/slow attack, i think getting a boost of 25% more rage
is not too shabby considering it's only 1 talent level.

oh btw, did i mentioned i'm a Taurus?
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and thats a good thing, cuz warriors smash faces and a lot of warriors are up high in the ranks sharing spots with warlocks/paladins/priests.


Added on October 3, 2007, 9:18 am
QUOTE(King83 @ Oct 3 2007, 08:25 AM)
hehe...
coming from a SIZE DOES MATTER mentality background,
i have always been a warrior at heart. In real life, i hit the gym too trying to get big.
It's in my DNA. I am a warrior... can't expect me to run around shooting arrows. And not
just any warrior, it has to be Tauren.

Endless Rage is crap ?? How so?
Regardless of your theory about fast/slow attack, i think getting a boost of 25% more rage
is not too shabby considering it's only 1 talent level.

oh btw, did i mentioned i'm a Taurus?
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endless rage isnt crap, its just deathwish being too good to pass up for endless rage. so many warriors just exaggerate it by claiming its crap.

personally id go 40/21, a lot easier to play under latency situations.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Oct 3 2007, 09:18 AM
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post Oct 3 2007, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Oct 3 2007, 08:38 AM)
so this is my final one?

Is anger management good btw?
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If that's my level60 char, then what's my level70?
dang... at 60, i don't have neither deathwish nor endless rage cry.gif
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post Oct 3 2007, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Oct 3 2007, 09:30 AM)
If that's my level60 char, then what's my level70?
dang... at 60, i don't have neither deathwish nor endless rage  cry.gif
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Lv 70 will be likely what i and kurei posted. IF possible, go for axe.
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post Oct 3 2007, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(Postboy @ Oct 3 2007, 10:39 AM)
Lv 70 will be likely what i and kurei posted. IF possible, go for axe.
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mace more sided towards pvp
axe viable both pvp/pve
swords better on pve
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post Oct 3 2007, 11:32 AM

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for ur weapon, go for LOLHERALD and u'll smash faces.
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post Oct 3 2007, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Oct 3 2007, 10:30 AM)
If that's my level60 char, then what's my level70?
dang... at 60, i don't have neither deathwish nor endless rage  cry.gif
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You wouldnt need to add anymore talents to arms tree. Just fill in the fury tree.
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post Oct 3 2007, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(flush @ Oct 3 2007, 11:32 AM)
for ur weapon, go for LOLHERALD and u'll smash faces.
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its called SKILLHERALD.

gotz skillz yo
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post Oct 3 2007, 11:44 AM

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I think ur a bit harsh on chinhui quaza. -.-

What he said was pretty informative and to fair extent accurate. Warriors are really gear dependant and especially in the OP's case, he's just comin to 70. It'll be awhile before he wields some fury into that warrior of his.
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post Oct 3 2007, 11:52 AM

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Yea, but along as you play the class you like i think is ok. Gearing up and watching the class you play grow is the best part of the game. With PVP gear being so easily farm as in giving x ammount of time u get x ammount of gear. But in PVE, is totally different story.
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QUOTE(flush @ Oct 3 2007, 11:32 AM)
for ur weapon, go for LOLHERALD and u'll smash faces.
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have you guys actually look up on the mats for Skillherald? you actually need Nether Vortax, which only drops in SSC above.
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post Oct 3 2007, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Oct 3 2007, 11:57 AM)
have you guys actually look up on the mats for Skillherald? you actually need Nether Vortax, which only drops in SSC above.
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That's why go for axe. smile.gif
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post Oct 3 2007, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Kurei @ Oct 3 2007, 11:44 AM)
I think ur a bit harsh on chinhui quaza. -.-

What he said was pretty informative and to fair extent accurate. Warriors are really gear dependant and especially in the OP's case, he's just comin to 70. It'll be awhile before he wields some fury into that warrior of his.
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yeah but they are still amongst the highest ranks in the pvp world, i will place my judgement on that. and its not hard to gear up, especially post TBC where MANY things are very casual friendly.

i mean cmon, how HARD is it to lose 10 5v5 games a week, to gear up in arenas? yes, LOSE 10 games, not even have to win, go in strip naked and lose. and hell, if you actually try to win, who knows if you can get a decent rating.

lack of gear is NO EXCUSE in pvp. maybe pve where you cant get guild/raid etc etc.
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QUOTE(Postboy @ Oct 3 2007, 12:02 PM)
That's why go for axe.  smile.gif
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Axe useless if you can't crit (high resil) better go for sword(double attack chance)
but mace is still best for PVP cause no amount of def/gear/resil can protect you from stuns
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post Oct 3 2007, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Oct 3 2007, 12:17 PM)
Axe useless if you can't crit (high resil) better go for sword(double attack chance)
but mace is still best for PVP cause no amount of def/gear/resil can protect you from stuns
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refer to:
mace more sided towards pvp
axe viable both pvp/pve
swords better on pve


axe is still viable in pvp as it affects ur skill based dmg (eg: MS)

and take this example:

your target has 400 resil, which reduces 10% crit rate

your crit is 20%, so now you only get 10% crit
if you got axe spec, you get 15% crit rate.

so is 10% or 15% better?

sword spec isnt good in pvp because its chance to proc is very random, and even if proc, its subjective to armor, and dodge miss parry, and other forms of mitigations. bear in mind its just an extra swing.
if it chain procs, then yes, arguebly sword spec is the best for pvp. but that dont happen all the time.
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post Oct 3 2007, 12:29 PM

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He's just 61. -.- And even if he go arena, earning few hundred pts a week will still take him months to be competitive.

Hm are we straying off the topic? lol.
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Oct 3 2007, 11:57 AM)
have you guys actually look up on the mats for Skillherald? you actually need Nether Vortax, which only drops in SSC above.
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then go for tier 2 version deep thunder lo. the top end dmg still veli kau and it also got the 4 sec stun.

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