This isn't exactly a tanker char...
and i don't wanna create another character.
So would be grateful if someone can help me out.

Why you want iron will btw?

my advise: Reroll

warrior is very gear dependable, and is nothing if you dont intend to put hard work to obtain eng game pve pvp gears, then you'll have no fun and you felt the game is against you. conclusion, you'll quit the game

I find hunter is perfect for casuals even for soloing, you can farm, pvp, instancing etc. in pvp you just need to hide and shoot from far 41yrd ftw. Hunter = easymode and not gear dependable when soloing. SO much less downtime

Edit: MS is a must for your lvl as MS is +dmg (fix) and also an instant attack, on contrast Bloodthirst is not weapon dependable, it's AP base dmg, and I sure you wont have the AP to do the decent dmg so forget it.
41 arms endless rage is crap, rage is normalised and rage gain is depend on weapon speed, slower = more rage per swing READ Careful Per swing if you get what I mean. To play a warrior effectively no matter tanking or pvping, how you manage/spend your rage is the key.

hehe...
coming from a SIZE DOES MATTER mentality background,
i have always been a warrior at heart. In real life, i hit the gym too trying to get big.
It's in my DNA. I am a warrior... can't expect me to run around shooting arrows. And not
just any warrior, it has to be Tauren.

Endless Rage is crap ?? How so?
Regardless of your theory about fast/slow attack, i think getting a boost of 25% more rage
is not too shabby considering it's only 1 talent level.

oh btw, did i mentioned i'm a Taurus?

hehe...
coming from a SIZE DOES MATTER mentality background,
i have always been a warrior at heart. In real life, i hit the gym too trying to get big.
It's in my DNA. I am a warrior... can't expect me to run around shooting arrows. And not
just any warrior, it has to be Tauren.

Endless Rage is crap ?? How so?
Regardless of your theory about fast/slow attack, i think getting a boost of 25% more rage
is not too shabby considering it's only 1 talent level.

oh btw, did i mentioned i'm a Taurus?

Lv 70 will be likely what i and kurei posted. IF possible, go for axe.

for ur weapon, go for LOLHERALD and u'll smash faces.

I think ur a bit harsh on chinhui quaza. -.-

What he said was pretty informative and to fair extent accurate. Warriors are really gear dependant and especially in the OP's case, he's just comin to 70. It'll be awhile before he wields some fury into that warrior of his.

Axe useless if you can't crit (high resil) better go for sword(double attack chance)
but mace is still best for PVP cause no amount of def/gear/resil can protect you from stuns

He's just 61. -.- And even if he go arena, earning few hundred pts a week will still take him months to be competitive.

Hm are we straying off the topic? lol.

ah... thanks for sheding some light on this, i usually solo so didn't see how much it could've helped my teammates

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classe...0000000000#none
nah his current talent he said it kicks ass on pvp he's ranking quite high and he uses stormherlad and atm fully equiped with pvp gear

btw the old talent i posted he used raw speed for dmg together with aq40's gear that was b4 the starting of bc....

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Added on October 3, 2007, 4:20 pmmy wow talent calculator got problem no wonder the first one was the same one with op's........ the first one i posted was a furry one....sigh i repost my friends old one and new one gimme a sec...

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Added on October 3, 2007, 4:29 pmhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?320050213020000000000000505000550501025310510000000000000000000000
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http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classe...000000000000000
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>.< sry....

o.0 he was strong back then.........btw what abt his new one? is it good?

Just to add...regardless of the hype.... Endless rage is great for leveling. yes my friend..great for LVLING....helps with tanking, dps...u name it....

for lvling spec..after lvling a few warriors.. 1-40...stick with 2H fury....the extra ap, crit, UW, PH is godly early lvls.

once 40, spec MS...the pwnage ...u'll nvr turn back from this..go all the way till u hit 50 and pick up endless rage...it rules for lvling the last 20 lvls.
second wind and WM is a must take...no sane warrior is without it.. WM soon to be nerfed...but..still a good talent...

once u hit 60...you can either respec to MS and pick up WM and SW..then move most points into fury..pickin up crit etc.

oh yea...use SLAM....it is godly.... get quartz swingtimer while ur at it...
easily can mow down mobs. (white swing-> slam-> MS ) should be able to do this very easily with Endless Rage...
hehe...flame on

lose 10 games per week everyweek = YES, you get gears and that's casual

maths, average skilled pvper earn 900-1.1k arena points per week and it's 2 weeks for a chest/helm/legging slot BUT lose 10 games per week everyweek granted you will make new 1500 fresh weekly 5s gives you <400 per week? So where would you be in 5 weeks time?

I'm not trying to discourage ppl away from playing warrior. if that how my point being interpreted, I do apologise.
WHat I meant was, warrior is THE MOST gear dependable class compare with other classes (some may disagree, but most would agree) so that's the downpoint if you dont work hard to obtain your gears. However warrior scales very well with gear compare with other classes and you'll feel great and have lots of fun.

Stormherald = is not Skillherald
it relies on luck btw for the stun and mace stun % will be tone down in 2.3, it will still be good but it wont be clearly the favourite

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Added on October 4, 2007, 2:22 amQuaza is also right about Endless Rage is NOT crap, and I'm wrong to say it crap.

Let me be precise on this point.
All talent points at all 3 talent trees for all classes are good but we only have like 61 points at lvl 70. So you would choose to spend them wisely and get the most out of the talent points you spend.
at lvl 70, Endless rage and improve Mortal Strike is not worth the trade off against deathwish and improve intercept.

warrior without MS = useless in arena

it's sad really, doesnt give you any chance to play 100% the way you like. Yea, paying $15 per month, you should play how you want. But ppl can tell you "fine it's your $15 per month, but in our team, it's our other $60 and we dont think you fit in"

I want to go fury for pvp/arena but just dont cut it
I want to go heroics as dps warrior but I offer no utility and overaggro too easily, ppl would rather choose other classes.

there'r some good pallies I know of are Shockadins/Retardin, they want to do well in arena but to no avail, they just cant fit it, and they have to go holy...

u'll make more with mining thorium. >.> not to mention that you find gems in higher level ores which can be cut into pretty gems.