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 [Official] Perodua Alza MPV Club V5, All about New Alza 2022 and prev version

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post Mar 14 2023, 04:00 PM

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Dual mode CVT has a planatery gear at higher revs for better fuel consumption. For most of thr time it functions as a CVT suitable for lower powered small engines under the Daihatsu stable limited to 150Nm torque and below.

Toyota's CVT has a planatery gear at the beginning to take the load of more powerful engines in its lineup of models then only switch to CVT mode.

Veloz uses the same engine as Alza which max out at 140Nm. There is no need to use the more advance CVT, can just install Daihatsu's DCVT to do the job

Don't believe UMW woulf have missed the chance to differentiate Veloz better gearbox if really was the case. Hence likely untrue.
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post Mar 15 2023, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Mar 15 2023, 08:20 AM)
It was mentioned that Veloz uses their Toyota normal 7speed CVT which is also used in the current Vios.
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The current 4th gen AC100 Vios uses Daihatsu's DCVT used in Ativa, Alza & Axia.
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post Mar 15 2023, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(superduper hyperodua @ Mar 15 2023, 06:05 PM)
What you guys think of Alza of head on collision ? Occupants cam survive or not ? Dunno P2 ncap stars can trust or not ?
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Firstly you either trust or disbelieve the Asean NCAP rating provided by JV of Miros and Global NCAP org.
Not the car manufacturer.

Then you view the criterias for the rating, eg. Head on Collision test is done at speed of 64 kmh.

Hence for Alza if you wear your seatbelts properly, airbags deployed and you hit something in front at speeds until 64kmh, likely will still be alive after the accident if you do not have any preexisting medical conditions.
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post Mar 23 2023, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(throwawayacclmao @ Mar 23 2023, 04:08 PM)

funny, my agent seems like a bit blur when i asked about my VSO#.

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Then is not Perodua employee.
Everyone there knows what is VSO
Careful not to get scammed.
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post Mar 30 2023, 04:27 AM

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QUOTE(throwawayacclmao @ Mar 29 2023, 11:44 PM)
Alright thanks. I got the VSO form now but when I keyed in the # it doesnt exist haha. Guess still Q-ing.
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Got scammed bro,
made police report?
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post Mar 30 2023, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(kennytkg @ Mar 30 2023, 07:33 PM)
Any alza  2022 owners have issues with gearbox sound like struggling esp at 1500-2500rpm? 😵‍💫Really annoying and worried premature gearbox fail in future. Jz gt mine early this month
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Bring it into Perodua to check. While you are there, test drive their Alza testcar see if sounds similar
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post Apr 16 2023, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Gold_Moderator @ Apr 16 2023, 09:32 AM)
just a file with printed mileage service etc.
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That file for other Perodua models with 5K mileage service.
They should have printed new one for Alza which doesn't have 5K service.
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post Apr 16 2023, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(afoka @ Aug 21 2022, 09:43 PM)
the dcvt is great...but the engine really need a boost...adding turbo should be the better way coz the car is heavy.
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Dcvt is only rated up to 150Nm, 2nr-ve already reach 138Nm. How to turbo without changing Gearbox?

1150kg is still lighter than Aruz 1300kg using the same engine.
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post Apr 16 2023, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Apr 16 2023, 02:53 PM)
very light. not heavvy at all^
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Its underpowered la. 2nr-ve pulling myvi 1000kg just nice. Extra 150kg car weight is like 2-3 passengers liao. Add another 6 pax to driver is another 300-400kg.

Under full load can reach beyond 1600kg.
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post Apr 16 2023, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Apr 16 2023, 03:33 PM)
adding human is not issue since car got gearbox to take care of them
as u mentioned cvt input is limited to 150nm, but output how hany nm
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What do you mean gearbox take care of adding human?
Gearbox does not generate any power.

Yes this gearbox got max load so you cannot increase engine power by turbo charging it to cater for more weight.

Hence the problem Alza underpowered remains. Not sure what you are trying to say..
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post Apr 16 2023, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Apr 16 2023, 06:44 PM)
gb function is torque multiplier. output are much more than 150nm confirm
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You are saying that if dyno Alza's 2nr-ve engine max 138Nm at crank, there would be a drivetrain gain instead of loss and the dyno at wheel then becomes more than 150Nm. Confirm?
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post Apr 20 2023, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Apr 20 2023, 09:26 AM)
I see some talks about the Alza being underpowered.

don't think people who are in the market for this vehicle are looking for a powerful car.

it may not be as powerful as other MPV with larger capacity engine, it would still be manageable.

still be able to move on the roads or get up to Genting Highlands full load.

not so much on the driver wanting a sporty handling or powerful car.
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Not about powerful cars, just whether there is sufficient power for it to do the job it is suppose to do.

A Formula One car 1.6 litre turbo V6 can be considered underpowered if it doesn't generate close to 1000hp as it will be slower than competitors on the racetrack.

The Alza may be considered underpowered if
a. It has a full load of 7 adults pushing kerb weight up to 1600kg
b. going up a steep incline approaching 20° as in certain Genting stretches
because in such cases, the engine has to rev beyond 4200 rpm where max 138Nm torque is generated.

Other conditions say 5 adults on flat roads is fine..
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post Apr 21 2023, 10:15 AM

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And we have people who probably don't even own this vehicle coming into various threads to increase their post counts.
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post Apr 21 2023, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Apr 21 2023, 11:47 AM)
become a fans can or not bro. i so poor unable afford yet.
i will aim for 2000kg enjin version instead of 1600kg one
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Too poor but want to aim for bigger engine?

Its not a problem for enthisiasts to come into car clubs to ask questions or seek clarifications, it becomes an issue when you start talking crap to increase your post counts like in all other threads as well.

Anyway, will let Kiefer deal with your postings here.
Have a nice day.
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post Apr 26 2023, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Apr 26 2023, 11:25 AM)
Sorry but my wife's Alza currently in repair for few weeks di cos kena bang from behind at traffic light,
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Sorry to hear about the accident bro,
Can share some pix, repair cost and process later?

Good for us to know Alza structural integrity at the rear
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post Apr 26 2023, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Apr 26 2023, 11:34 AM)
Eh? Cause i check the manual it says 4 - 120kmh , lol ...

But when i watched some youtuber, when they testing at lower speed, it also will warn actually.
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It depends on both the distance from object and speed your car travelling. Two instances happen to me..

a. Traffic light red but there is a small side lane turning to the left. As i was turning into lane ard 30kmh, it detected the car stopped at lights, sounded and braked my Alza for me before i entered the side lane.

b. Overtaking on highway moving from 2nd lane to fast lane,
Was waiting for another car on fast lane to go past but appproached car in front too fast on my lane ard 100kmh, got sounded by Alza LOL
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post May 12 2023, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(alpha team @ May 12 2023, 08:55 AM)
if u left 1 bar, probably run another 20km-30km depending on oil consumption, the big warning sign will show up. then u can run another 10km.  there is no other indication light show up.

this is what i did always.
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Agree with LostFound, it will stress the fuel pump unnecessarily
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post May 24 2023, 04:33 PM

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Drove like a maniac on highway 20% full throttle avg speed 140kmh.
FC 11kml only (383km/34.3liters RON95)

Strangely after full tank 34.3 liters RANGE is 521km giving 15kml only LOL
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post May 25 2023, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ May 25 2023, 01:13 PM)
last bar section also dissapear is very critical emptiness tank
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Reading your futile one liners in various threads, my brain also critical emptiness..

Still not enough stars from useless posts?
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post May 27 2023, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ May 27 2023, 08:26 AM)
blink.gif 90% and 9 years!
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Can't touch the banks and powerful automobile players all who continue to ply their dirty trade in broad daylight..

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