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post Jun 16 2022, 03:52 PM, updated 4y ago

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Hi everyone,

I was graduated on 2020 and started as a self-employed retail trader in february. It's been 2 years since I have been trading Malaysia equity stocks and began to trade FCPO futures earlier in the January this year. In the meantime, I'm also a licensed unit trust consultant in Principal Asset Management for 1 year+, is now managing about 400k worth of assets.

Wanted to start my career in fund management and grow further as a fund manager, but I think it is impossible for now so I am planning to start the journey as a trader first, and consider to do internal transfer after gaining enough experience.

Can anyone share their experience on getting a job in a prop firm / IB as a non-finance graduate? Would't mind if anyone could also advice me on the career path as well.
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post Jun 16 2022, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(PassionateTrader @ Jun 16 2022, 03:52 PM)
Hi everyone,

I was graduated on 2020 and started as a self-employed retail trader in february. It's been 2 years since I have been trading Malaysia equity stocks and began to trade FCPO futures earlier in the January this year. In the meantime, I'm also a licensed unit trust consultant in Principal Asset Management for 1 year+, is now managing about 400k worth of assets.

Wanted to start my career in fund management and grow further as a fund manager, but I think it is impossible for now so I am planning to start the journey as a trader first, and consider to do internal transfer after gaining enough experience.

Can anyone share their experience on getting a job in a prop firm / IB as a non-finance graduate? Would't mind if anyone could also advice me on the career path as well.
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You can contact an IB/broker prop trading department, sometimes called PDT/IVT traders. Affinhwang, Kenanga, TA, Malacca Securities are among the brokers that have this business.

The normal MO is they give u trading limit, n a profit share arrangement.

This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Jun 16 2022, 05:13 PM
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post Jun 16 2022, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Jun 16 2022, 05:13 PM)
You can contact an IB/broker prop trading department, sometimes called PDT/IVT traders. Affinhwang, Kenanga, TA, Malacca Securities are among the brokers that have this business.

The normal MO is they give u trading limit, n a profit share arrangement.
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Are they usually salaried position or fully commissioned?
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post Jun 16 2022, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(PassionateTrader @ Jun 16 2022, 05:22 PM)
Are they usually salaried position or fully commissioned?
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There might be a small basic salary, but it's mostly profit sharing.


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post Jun 16 2022, 10:50 PM

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Fund manager and trader are 2 different roles. Dont think you can swap to fund manager role from trading role. Fund management in malaysia relies on fundamentals and uses mid- long term approach. Not technical analysis and short term trading approach like a trader. So if u wanna become a fund manager, u should become an analyst first. Your writing skills have to be good.Usually takes about 5-10 years to jump to fund manager role if you are good enough.




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post Jun 17 2022, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Questions12345 @ Jun 16 2022, 10:50 PM)
Fund manager and trader are 2 different roles. Dont think you can swap to fund manager role from trading role. Fund management in malaysia relies on fundamentals and uses mid- long term approach. Not technical analysis and short term trading approach like a trader. So if u wanna become a fund manager, u should become an analyst first. Your writing skills have to be good.Usually takes about 5-10 years to jump to fund manager role if you are good enough.
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I see... I have tried to apply Equity Research Associate but so far no replies... guess it's really a tough process for non-finance graduants sad.gif
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post Jun 17 2022, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(PassionateTrader @ Jun 17 2022, 09:49 AM)
I see... I have tried to apply Equity Research Associate but so far no replies... guess it's really a tough process for non-finance graduants  sad.gif
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Since u trade fcpo and stocks. U can apply for UOBkayhian derivatives trader. They also day trade stocks as well. Sometimes u might be market making in which you are given a certain amount of capital to buy shares at a certain price level within a stipulated time for companies(share buybacks as an example) or for IBs. A very small % of commision from this goes to your pay.
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post Jun 17 2022, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Questions12345 @ Jun 17 2022, 10:15 AM)
Since u trade fcpo and stocks. U can apply for UOBkayhian derivatives trader. They also day trade stocks as well. Sometimes u might be market making in which you are given a certain amount of capital to buy shares at a certain price level within a stipulated time for companies(share buybacks as an example) or for IBs. A very small % of commision from this goes to your pay.
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Sounds great, I'm gonna try to look up for it. Do you know about Module 6 & 7 as well? I received an email from one of the broker firm asking me to arrange an exam schedule for Module 6 & 7 from SIDC. I've read the application form and it requires me to write who am I trading for, I believe they won't allow me to write the firm's name without passing the interview. How is the actual procedure if I have to apply it for myself?
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post Jun 17 2022, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(PassionateTrader @ Jun 17 2022, 10:48 AM)
Sounds great, I'm gonna try to look up for it. Do you know about Module 6 & 7 as well? I received an email from one of the broker firm asking me to arrange an exam schedule for Module 6 & 7 from SIDC. I've read the application form and it requires me to write who am I trading for, I believe they won't allow me to write the firm's name without passing the interview. How is the actual procedure if I have to apply it for myself?
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If the broker firm ask u to take mod 6 and 7 means they are already planning to hire you. No?
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post Jun 19 2022, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(Questions12345 @ Jun 17 2022, 01:12 PM)
If the broker firm ask u to take mod 6 and 7 means they are already planning to hire you. No?
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hmm, I don't think so... I'm wondering if I could apply for exam as an individual without stating any firm names. Heard that most of the people apply with their existing license that they had from the previous employment.
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post Jun 19 2022, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(PassionateTrader @ Jun 16 2022, 03:52 PM)
Hi everyone,

I was graduated on 2020 and started as a self-employed retail trader in february. It's been 2 years since I have been trading Malaysia equity stocks and began to trade FCPO futures earlier in the January this year. In the meantime, I'm also a licensed unit trust consultant in Principal Asset Management for 1 year+, is now managing about 400k worth of assets.

Wanted to start my career in fund management and grow further as a fund manager, but I think it is impossible for now so I am planning to start the journey as a trader first, and consider to do internal transfer after gaining enough experience.

Can anyone share their experience on getting a job in a prop firm / IB as a non-finance graduate? Would't mind if anyone could also advice me on the career path as well.
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Wah so ngam ah early this year haha. Makan2 oh commodity

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post Jun 21 2022, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Jun 19 2022, 05:11 PM)
Wah so ngam ah early this year haha. Makan2 oh commodity
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hmm not really, I trade tick charts and I don't hold any position overnight

 

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