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Non-Finance Graduate looking for Trader job
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TSPassionateTrader P
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Jun 16 2022, 03:52 PM, updated 4y ago
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Hi everyone,
I was graduated on 2020 and started as a self-employed retail trader in february. It's been 2 years since I have been trading Malaysia equity stocks and began to trade FCPO futures earlier in the January this year. In the meantime, I'm also a licensed unit trust consultant in Principal Asset Management for 1 year+, is now managing about 400k worth of assets.
Wanted to start my career in fund management and grow further as a fund manager, but I think it is impossible for now so I am planning to start the journey as a trader first, and consider to do internal transfer after gaining enough experience.
Can anyone share their experience on getting a job in a prop firm / IB as a non-finance graduate? Would't mind if anyone could also advice me on the career path as well.
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Cubalagi
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Jun 16 2022, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(PassionateTrader @ Jun 16 2022, 03:52 PM) Hi everyone, I was graduated on 2020 and started as a self-employed retail trader in february. It's been 2 years since I have been trading Malaysia equity stocks and began to trade FCPO futures earlier in the January this year. In the meantime, I'm also a licensed unit trust consultant in Principal Asset Management for 1 year+, is now managing about 400k worth of assets. Wanted to start my career in fund management and grow further as a fund manager, but I think it is impossible for now so I am planning to start the journey as a trader first, and consider to do internal transfer after gaining enough experience. Can anyone share their experience on getting a job in a prop firm / IB as a non-finance graduate? Would't mind if anyone could also advice me on the career path as well. You can contact an IB/broker prop trading department, sometimes called PDT/IVT traders. Affinhwang, Kenanga, TA, Malacca Securities are among the brokers that have this business. The normal MO is they give u trading limit, n a profit share arrangement. This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Jun 16 2022, 05:13 PM
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TSPassionateTrader P
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Jun 16 2022, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Jun 16 2022, 05:13 PM) You can contact an IB/broker prop trading department, sometimes called PDT/IVT traders. Affinhwang, Kenanga, TA, Malacca Securities are among the brokers that have this business. The normal MO is they give u trading limit, n a profit share arrangement. Are they usually salaried position or fully commissioned?
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Cubalagi
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Jun 16 2022, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(PassionateTrader @ Jun 16 2022, 05:22 PM) Are they usually salaried position or fully commissioned? There might be a small basic salary, but it's mostly profit sharing.
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Questions12345
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Jun 16 2022, 10:50 PM
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Fund manager and trader are 2 different roles. Dont think you can swap to fund manager role from trading role. Fund management in malaysia relies on fundamentals and uses mid- long term approach. Not technical analysis and short term trading approach like a trader. So if u wanna become a fund manager, u should become an analyst first. Your writing skills have to be good.Usually takes about 5-10 years to jump to fund manager role if you are good enough.
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TSPassionateTrader P
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Jun 17 2022, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(Questions12345 @ Jun 16 2022, 10:50 PM) Fund manager and trader are 2 different roles. Dont think you can swap to fund manager role from trading role. Fund management in malaysia relies on fundamentals and uses mid- long term approach. Not technical analysis and short term trading approach like a trader. So if u wanna become a fund manager, u should become an analyst first. Your writing skills have to be good.Usually takes about 5-10 years to jump to fund manager role if you are good enough. I see... I have tried to apply Equity Research Associate but so far no replies... guess it's really a tough process for non-finance graduants
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Questions12345
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Jun 17 2022, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(PassionateTrader @ Jun 17 2022, 09:49 AM) I see... I have tried to apply Equity Research Associate but so far no replies... guess it's really a tough process for non-finance graduants  Since u trade fcpo and stocks. U can apply for UOBkayhian derivatives trader. They also day trade stocks as well. Sometimes u might be market making in which you are given a certain amount of capital to buy shares at a certain price level within a stipulated time for companies(share buybacks as an example) or for IBs. A very small % of commision from this goes to your pay.
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TSPassionateTrader P
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Jun 17 2022, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(Questions12345 @ Jun 17 2022, 10:15 AM) Since u trade fcpo and stocks. U can apply for UOBkayhian derivatives trader. They also day trade stocks as well. Sometimes u might be market making in which you are given a certain amount of capital to buy shares at a certain price level within a stipulated time for companies(share buybacks as an example) or for IBs. A very small % of commision from this goes to your pay. Sounds great, I'm gonna try to look up for it. Do you know about Module 6 & 7 as well? I received an email from one of the broker firm asking me to arrange an exam schedule for Module 6 & 7 from SIDC. I've read the application form and it requires me to write who am I trading for, I believe they won't allow me to write the firm's name without passing the interview. How is the actual procedure if I have to apply it for myself?
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Questions12345
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Jun 17 2022, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(PassionateTrader @ Jun 17 2022, 10:48 AM) Sounds great, I'm gonna try to look up for it. Do you know about Module 6 & 7 as well? I received an email from one of the broker firm asking me to arrange an exam schedule for Module 6 & 7 from SIDC. I've read the application form and it requires me to write who am I trading for, I believe they won't allow me to write the firm's name without passing the interview. How is the actual procedure if I have to apply it for myself? If the broker firm ask u to take mod 6 and 7 means they are already planning to hire you. No?
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TSPassionateTrader P
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Jun 19 2022, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(Questions12345 @ Jun 17 2022, 01:12 PM) If the broker firm ask u to take mod 6 and 7 means they are already planning to hire you. No? hmm, I don't think so... I'm wondering if I could apply for exam as an individual without stating any firm names. Heard that most of the people apply with their existing license that they had from the previous employment.
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brokenbomb
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Jun 19 2022, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(PassionateTrader @ Jun 16 2022, 03:52 PM) Hi everyone, I was graduated on 2020 and started as a self-employed retail trader in february. It's been 2 years since I have been trading Malaysia equity stocks and began to trade FCPO futures earlier in the January this year. In the meantime, I'm also a licensed unit trust consultant in Principal Asset Management for 1 year+, is now managing about 400k worth of assets. Wanted to start my career in fund management and grow further as a fund manager, but I think it is impossible for now so I am planning to start the journey as a trader first, and consider to do internal transfer after gaining enough experience. Can anyone share their experience on getting a job in a prop firm / IB as a non-finance graduate? Would't mind if anyone could also advice me on the career path as well. Wah so ngam ah early this year haha. Makan2 oh commodity
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TSPassionateTrader P
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Jun 21 2022, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Jun 19 2022, 05:11 PM) Wah so ngam ah early this year haha. Makan2 oh commodity hmm not really, I trade tick charts and I don't hold any position overnight
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