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post Mar 10 2023, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(zebras @ Mar 10 2023, 07:56 PM)
Only 0.1% if u invest more than 10k
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10k USD is not a small amount. tongue.gif

And another thing important for you to know. I could be wrong, but insider sources mentioned to me that FSM bonds are "not even held on a custodian basis", so everything is in FSM's name (i.e., on FSM/iFAST's balance sheet).

Buying bonds on FSM platform implies a "private agreement" between you and FSM. If FSM/iFAST went bankrupt, you have to "go to court to show that you have a private arrangement with FSM", as the source asserts.

This is different from IBKR, whose holdings are segregated in a custodian account separated from the broker's holding company.

*Retail investors often forget about counterparty risk.*

QUOTE(zebras @ Mar 10 2023, 07:57 PM)
What are the fees for UOB?
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Are you referring to cash purchase of SG T-bills or purchase via CPF?

Cash purchase is free on primary market provided you have CDP account. You can of course purchase the bills in secondary market via SG brokers or FSM.

For CPF-OA investments, you need to open a CPFIS account at one of the 3 local banks (DBS, UOB, OCBC) before you can purchase T-bills from primary market. https://investmentmoats.com/saving-and-inve...ills-sgs-bonds/

All 3 local SG banks have quarterly custodian fees of about 2 SGD. See links below.

DBS: https://www.dbs.com.sg/iwov-resources/media...ule_charges.pdf

OCBC: https://www.ocbc.com/personal-banking/inves...estment-account

UOB: https://www.uob.com.sg/personal/invest/fina...nt-account.page

You are welcome to join your SG friends over at HWZ if you would like to know more: https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/...769601/page-629

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post Mar 12 2023, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Mar 10 2023, 05:36 PM)
OCBC, UOB customers can tap CPF funds to buy T-bills online from Mar 31 and Apr 22 respectively

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-...s-online-mar-31

There's a paywall, but no worries, I will post the whole article in 2 days time when the physical newspaper is available at my uni's library.
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post Mar 13 2023, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Mar 9 2023, 07:51 PM)
ilovessb.com may soon include T-bills and SGS securities stuffs, which will be helpful for newcomers to SG's risk-free space.

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/...#post-146612514
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The site is ready: https://www.ilovessb.com/sgs

Source: https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/...#post-146663759
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post Mar 13 2023, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(leo_kiatez @ Mar 13 2023, 05:13 PM)
So which is the best and cheapest way to purchase SSB or T-bills?
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Buy from primary market, i.e. directly from DBS/UOB/OCBC via their online portal.

Free of charge for T-bills, 2 SGD charge per purchase/redemption for SSB.

But again, this is limited to those with CDP account only.
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post Mar 14 2023, 03:00 PM

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This week's MAS Bill auction results:

Tenure4-week12-week
Cut-off yield3.98%3.83%
Median yield3.7%3.72%
Average yield3.36%3.28%
BTC ratio2.022.29

Source:

4-week: https://www.mas.gov.sg/bonds-and-bills/auct...date=2023-03-17

12-week: https://www.mas.gov.sg/bonds-and-bills/auct...date=2023-03-17

Both 1 month and 3 month are surprisingly cooler than last week, 1 month BTC almost dropping below 2.
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post Mar 15 2023, 05:48 PM

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FXFA screenshots for tomorrow's 6M T-bill auction (bid ends tonight at 9 pm).

Offshore EuroSing

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Onshore

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The rates are pretty low at 3.2-3.5% p.a. Not sure if the FXFA settings have been changed... But this round of auction may throw some downside surprises. One should be mentally prepared.

I double-check with Bloomberg's quote for the latest price for 6M T-bill issued 2 weeks ago. The rates are about 3.8-3.9% p.a.

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MAS published 3.91% as the closing yield for the T-bill issued 2 weeks ago, for reference.

https://eservices.mas.gov.sg/statistics/fda...ssuePrices.aspx

This round I bid 3.85% p.a. tongue.gif Tomorrow ikanbilis will post the result here.

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post Mar 15 2023, 10:49 PM

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I think tomorrow's number auction number will be messed up...

US 6 month yield just collapsed 4%... a 20-basis-point jump down...

https://www.investing.com/rates-bonds/u.s.-...onth-bond-yield
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post Mar 15 2023, 11:58 PM

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Expected Fed fund rates are collapsing rapidly. Reinvestment risk is rising.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-mark...YQbBAHlXQibfCvI

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post Mar 16 2023, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Mar 16 2023, 01:45 PM)
Cut off yield 3.65%.  doh.gif

I did not apply this time round.  bye.gif
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It's ok. Credit Suisse stressed us out yesterday. Already warned yesterday that the result will have downside surprises. Also, the Bloomberg numbers weren't messed up. It correctly warned us ahead in time.

% of Competitive Applications at Cut-off AllottedApproximately 66%
% of Non-Competitive Applications Allotted100%
Bid-to-Cover Ratio2.77
Cut-off Yield (Price)3.65% p.a. (98.18)
Median Yield (Price)3.58% p.a. (98.215)
Average Yield (Price)3.41% p.a. (98.3)

Source: https://www.mas.gov.sg/bonds-and-bills/auct...date=2023-03-21


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post Mar 17 2023, 09:07 AM

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New Feature - You can now subscribe to email notifications/reminders on T-bills and SGS bonds events.

https://www.ilovessb.com/subscribe

You can select the tenor(s) of interest and be notified:

  • When an issue is open for application
  • Before reaching the Closing Date
  • When auction result is announced


If you had already subscribed previously, use the same form to get a link to manage/change your subscription details.

FYI, next week, we will have a 6-month T-bill, a 15-year and a 20-year SGS bonds open.


Source: https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/...#post-146722782

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post Mar 17 2023, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 17 2023, 11:37 AM)
T-bill yields are going back down again. How abt the latest SSB yield, bro ?
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Latest projected SSB yield levels have dropped across all tenor. https://www.ilovessb.com/

It used to be 3.34-3.36% p.a. early last week. Now it's projected to be 3.24% p.a. based on yesterday's (16th Mar) SGS yield curve.

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post Mar 17 2023, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 17 2023, 01:32 PM)
Thank you again, bro,...

Hmm, if it's 3.24% for April Issue, it's still higher than my December and January Issues, right ?
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ilovessb.com has historical SSB rate archiving service. https://ilovessb.com/historical-rates

December issue saw the highest SSB rate ever (3.26 avg rate first year -3.47 avg rate in year 10). January's issue will be lower than 3.24% is you don't hold it till maturity.

You may make a profit if you swap January's issue to the upcoming April issue, but 2 things to bear in mind:

1. 4 SGD service charge (2 sgd for withdrawal, 2 sgd for new subscription)

2. April's SSB rate is not yet finalized. The rates may change anytime. The current numbers are projections only.


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post Mar 21 2023, 03:28 PM

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This week's MAS Bill auction results:

Tenure4-week12-week
Cut-off yield4.05%4.04%
Median yield3.7%3.83%
Average yield3.1%3.5%
BTC ratio1.841.8

Source:

4-week: https://www.mas.gov.sg/bonds-and-bills/auct...date=2023-03-24

12-week: https://www.mas.gov.sg/bonds-and-bills/auct...date=2023-03-24

Both 1-month and 3-month are even cooler than last week, both BTC dropped below 2. COY reaching 4% again.
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post Mar 26 2023, 02:58 PM

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A busy week of MAS auctions ahead.

1-month and 3-month MAS bill auction this Tuesday as usual, followed by a 15-year SGS auction and 20-year SGS mini-auction in Wednesday, and lastly 6-month T-bill auction in Thursday.

OCBC CPFIS holders still can't apply for CPF-OA investment in T-bill as the system should come online on 31st March, the day after the 6M T-bill auction result is announced.

DBS CPFIS holders should note that the online application for T-bill via CPF-OA monies end one day earlier before the cash application deadline at 12 pm.

UOB CPFIS holders need to wait till 22nd of April for the online system to be ready for T-bill application using CPF-OA monies.

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post Mar 28 2023, 03:16 PM

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This week's MAS Bill auction results:

Tenure4-week12-week
Cut-off yield4%4.05%
Median yield3.7%3.9%
Average yield3.21%3.33%
BTC ratio1.922.03

Source:

4-week: https://www.mas.gov.sg/bonds-and-bills/auct...date=2023-03-31

12-week: https://www.mas.gov.sg/bonds-and-bills/auct...date=2023-03-31

Both 1-month and 3-month COY holding at about 4%.
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post Mar 29 2023, 12:42 PM

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Oh shit. DBS service down...

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-...-down-wednesday

If it's not up by 9pm tonight, I will miss this time's T-bill bidding opportunity...

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Access to our digital services (DBS/POSB digibank Online and Mobile, DBS Vickers mTrading, DBS PayLah!) is intermittent and you may experience some slowness during login.
Please be assured that your deposits and monies are safe and secure. We are sorry for the inconvenience caused.

From: https://www.facebook.com/dbs.sg/

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15-year and 20-year SGS auction results have been published:

15-year: https://www.mas.gov.sg/bonds-and-bills/auct...date=2023-04-03

20-year: https://www.mas.gov.sg/bonds-and-bills/auct...date=2023-04-03

ilovessb.com has some nice and professional data snapshots:

15-year: https://www.ilovessb.com/15-year-sgs-bond

20-year: https://www.ilovessb.com/20-year-sgs-bond

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post Mar 29 2023, 05:34 PM

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Looks like DBS is a huge letdown today.

But today's Bloomberg data suggest the yields aren't too enticing either. Offshore yields 3.54-3.62% while onshore yields around 3.86% p.a.

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Will be bidding around 3.7%-3.8% p.a., 3.75% p.a. looks about right. But bids are only possible if DBS came back online before 9pm...

Good luck guys. ikanbilis standby here tomorrow at 1pm. tongue.gif

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In another news, SSB April result was published this afternoon.

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Applicants who applied for S$68,500 or lower were fully allotted, subject to the individual allotment limits.
Applicants who applied for S$69,000 or higher were allotted either S$68,500 or S$69,000.
Approximately 83.42% of these applicants were selected at random and allotted the additional S$500.


https://www.mas.gov.sg/bonds-and-bills/auct...date=2023-04-03

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post Mar 30 2023, 02:59 PM

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% of Competitive Applications at Cut-off AllottedApproximately 12%
% of Non-Competitive Applications Allotted100%
Bid-to-Cover Ratio2.23
Cut-off Yield (Price)3.85% p.a. (98.08)
Median Yield (Price)3.65% p.a. (98.18)
Average Yield (Price)3.43% p.a. (98.29)

Source: https://www.mas.gov.sg/bonds-and-bills/auct...date=2023-04-04

QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Mar 30 2023, 01:25 PM)
Cut off yield 3.85%. Disappointed
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lol what rate was you expecting laugh.gif

3.85 about in line with Bloomberg's FXFA numbers.

But ya, comparing with US 6M T-bill, it's behind by almost a full percentage point.


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post Mar 31 2023, 10:42 AM

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April SSB allotment and 15-year SGS auction results, as reported in BT 300323:

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post Apr 1 2023, 01:01 PM

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Latest 6M T-bill auction result reported by BT 310323:

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