submarines would be useful in any military operation so it's a no-brainer decision really
also, 4 of anything is really a minimum buy when it comes to ships; if you're going to run a kedai mamak 24 jam, obviously you need more than 2 staff right? takkan each staff on 12 hours?

however, there's a valid question in asking if conventional military capability is what we need right now. IMVHO our priorities should be EEZ patrol and anti-piracy, and we need coast guard-type boats for that, not subs

I don't think we can afford both

lol
I've seen better guides from Western defence bloggers
typical Rybar half past six info

even if we do that, I doubt we have enough money
country's GDP is low

This post has been edited by KLthinker91: Feb 20 2023, 03:03 AM

The Little Birds cost is not that far off inclusive of support contracts

The FA50 contract is a bit expensive but again, not that far off; my estimate of the upgraded model was 50 million each flyaway cost

The F16 is not that cheap unless you want the ancient outdated models

just about all air-to-air missiles can be launched from the ground, they just need a booster to get them into the target vicinity

Bombs have always been used by NATO for antiship work, and laser-guided bombs were used in naval combat before JDAMs were invented

bomb use memang not simple for those who don't know how to click reply button

Malaysia actually did operate an air to air missile as a SAM before

but since we have not bought the SAM launchers for our current AAMs, obviously we cannot launch them from the ground

well, our LCS programme thanks you very much for your socioeconomic contribution to the local community & industry

if purchasing stuff directly means we get less results than license-building it locally, then thank goodness we didn't buy the LCS direct, if we had, then we would end up with -1 ships sailing the seas, and we'd probably owe the French an additional ship

mathematics!

This post has been edited by KLthinker91: Feb 24 2023, 07:08 PM

Well right now we have 0 ships so I fail to see any worse outcome

The main issue here is someone took the fucking money okay

They aren't
The replacement for F15 in all these forces is a future aircraft

This post has been edited by KLthinker91: Feb 25 2023, 08:06 AM

I really fail to see how this is in any way the case

yeah well
Mai189 is well-known for his... unique perspective

what fantasy land are you living in LMAO
for the past 12 months UK has been proving just what kind of power they can still wield without even getting into combat

sweaty, you're no Kor Risik
real intel officers know better than to simply take photo ops serial numbers at face value

It's not a pot shot, it's a valid criticism of your method. You want to believe that SAF is squeaky honest about this, that's your business. Regarding your other, better-referenced conclusions, I have not commented negatively

If I want to take "pot shots", I have better shit to throw at you, personally, but I don't see the point in explicitly calling out people

So, YOU back the fuck off, and let's keep this nice and détente.

This post has been edited by KLthinker91: Feb 26 2023, 02:21 PM

dunno means dunno

I don't explain shit to people who don't know how to tag

Ooo, somebody got triggered hard eh? Look back at the previous page and tell me who's being emotional here.

Anyway, I leave you be. As I said, I have no beef with you, if you want to make an issue out of it, itu hal kamu.

Always

This post has been edited by KLthinker91: Feb 26 2023, 02:59 PM

eh tiba tiba reti tag pulak
what happened?

do you think the increase is justified?

they really aren't

SK uses Meteor because US doesn't yet have an equivalent (AIM-260 JATM is still developing IIRC)

there are structural reasons for SAF to get the US PCA fighter

the reasons why the SAF armament is so "diverse" is historical and capability-based:

at first SAF could only get the Igla so that is what they used
then they got access to Sidewinder
however they didn't yet get access to AMRAAM, so they bought Derby / Python instead
furthermore, the IADS they were setting up was Israeli-based, so it made sense to get Israeli weapons
hence they also bought Derby / Python SAMs for the Army which obviously is a massive upgrade over Igla
the medium-range air defence was now covered... but what about long range air defence?
at this point SG-US relations were not so well developed yet, with SG leaning European
furthermore the US was not building any ships suitable for SG use, and SG wanted naval warships
so they bought Formidable + Aster
Aster also equipped the SAF long range ground based air defence
so now the full SG IADS is complete
subsequently SG-US relations firmed and improved, and F-15 won the next fighter competition over Typhoon and Rafale, so now they had access to AMRAAMs, possibly the most capable long range air to air missile in SAF service

and that's the whole silly story

I'm interested to know your views on that
AIM-120D+ is meant to temporarily fulfil the extended range requirement, AIM-260 being the all-new missile body, however it is not a perfect solution. Even though it has the range, it doesn't have the ramjet, so its no-escape zone and kinematic performance although extended will not be anything like Meteor's

AIM-260 should be a ramjet like Meteor

This post has been edited by KLthinker91: Apr 8 2023, 04:03 AM

Higher velocity and bigger no escape zone over rocket motors
In all domains now, sea, air and land
Meteor has its roots in early 00s design, it's no wonder that a missile being developed right now and not yet officially in service should have improved performance

I think it's safe to say that Meteor comfortably beats earlier marks of AMRAAM and overlaps with 120D and AIM-260

European users of F-35 will pay for Meteor
it is key to British and Scandinavian F-35 air dominance

added cost is not because of the ramjet itself; European weapons are more expensive per unit due to lower production and higher cost of living

Peregrine and those missiles you listed are not fully developed yet, so don't count those chickens before they hatch. Recently, ARRW which you listed has been cancelled after its latest failure.