not at all
Iraq, for obvious reasons, is not high on their priority list

depending on the variant, Mirage 2000 avionics are very dated

This post has been edited by KLthinker91: May 24 2023, 12:29 PM

there are political aspects

Taiwan should ideally be flying anything with a wing, but they are pushing for more discounted jets

Qatar is buying allies

any discounted jets that US / NATO will sell them

I wasn't referring to Qatar's Mirage buy

yes, but obviously they'll want any discount they can get
why are you jumping at irrelevancies

if you can point out any strawman here I belanja you makan

haiz then I say more clearly: Taiwan is probably bitching and moaning about their Mirage 2000s simply cause they want to get more advanced aircraft, preferably at discount prices

realistically they have nothing to complain about their Mirages, it's not like they have very many aircraft to start with. and the -5 Mirages aren't bad aircraft at all.

not all countries are "dumping" their Mirage 2000s, it depends on many factors including politics, funding, availability.

cope

^ Taiwan is in this situation, they are just in denial about it

UAE and Qatar can easily afford better aircraft because they're stinking rich

Brazil bought a small number of Mirage 2000Cs as a stopgap, it is an older model

France is always in the process of Rafale-ising their Air Force, if they can get Ukraine to pay for it it's a win-win situation for both sides

Lol
You think you have a more special relationship than THE Special Relationship?

so Russia is on a level with Turkey only lah

not sure it counts as fully 5th gen but this is certainly the lowest RCS 4.5th gen aircraft I think
any official word on RCS?

Would be helpful if you can post the video

"Dogfights" are irrelevant by now. It's like saying hurr durr my soldiers can quickdraw their revolvers like John Wayne

technology has moved on from 55 years ago

not really
none of those aircraft are designed for or against "dogfighting"

lol no absolutely not
air superiority =/= "dogfighting"
nobody is going for short-range turning fights here, it's all optimised for radar-enabled BVR

Not really

while the F22 can "dogfight" because of its design, it's something of a lucky happenstance because it's not designed to dogfight per se and should never be in a position when it needs to dogfight. All the advantages of stealth are negated in such a scenario. Why should the F22 ever put itself in such a situation?

You're saying that a tank is designed to physically crush infantry because it is thickly armoured and its tracks can easily roll over people. While it's true that a tank can and did in WW2, the modern tank won't want to ever be in such a situation because its advantages are nullified ie what if the infantry have shoulder-fired antitank missiles. The fact that it can is happenstance, realistically it wouldn't want to be placed in such a situation and would actively try to avoid being in such a situation.

Same thing.

Gripen was designed as a multirole long range missile truck relying on the Meteor for its edge
F35 is a multirole stealth jet that does everything its predecessors do, but with stealth and networking

You can be both stealthy and manouvreable; that is the F-22

Manouevrability is important in BVR combat as well. But nobody is going to take an F-22 dogfighting. If an F-22 is dogfighting, it has failed; it's got into a situation where its expensive advantages are negated

The point which you fail to grasp is that just because it CAN do something, doesn't mean that it WANTS to do that thing, or is designed TO do that thing

doesn't "tank" hits like a tank
20mm punches right through it
it's meant to be an assault gun actually, basically a modern Sturmgeschütz III