their version has a bigger longer hulls as well as 1000 tons++ heavier.

if not mistaken the constellation slaughter the beautiful FREMM design as their additional equipment & weapon they intend to carry makes the ship heavier is more then what they engine could provide thus they cut the upper front hull & super structure to reduce weight as they want to operate at higher speed.

it could also be just cost cutting exercise as TNI-AL is a territorial defense forces thus they don't need huge internal volume or they don't need to carry USV,UUV or UAV.

or it could also be for redundancy as most warship is design with the aft and front can work independently if the ship is hit and thus a lot of cruiser have VLS sit on both the middle & front


its up to each individual navy to determine what is their priorities or what they could tolerate & sacrifice on the design. if RMN ever get something from an absalon platform then i would say it would likely be a multirole combat version. but doing so would tip the scale as it would be less good on the combat side to facilitate the multirole capability something that TNI-AL may not need or dont want to sacrifices.

personally an OPV version of the first irritation of absalon with a RoRO ability is a perfect fit for MMEA & PDRM mothership requirement.

That ship in itself cannot function as MRSS (unlike the original Makassar class LPD design).

But there would be a big commonality in operations and maintenance if we buy if we buy that sub tender and also a makassar class LPD as our MRSS.

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just need to buy few F-35s from the US then it can automatically become aircraft carrier like singapore's endurance heli support ship..

???

Malaysia should have bought the Mistral french assault ship when it was offered

Then few years later buy F35B

kek we could've got LHA from daddy america for free and we still dun wan

The length difference is just a measly 4.3m.

The Indonesian frigate is actually 90 tons lighter than the Iver Huitfeldt.

The constellation class major redesign is to fit various sensors and weapons thst are totally different to any existing FREMM frigates. Which justifies its massive cost. But the Indonesian frigate will fit all weapons that already fitted or planned on the Iver Huitfeldt and Type 31. No different weapons to justify the massive redesign. With the redesign actually reduces the capability of the ship, rather than if just follow the original design. The original Type 31 design can carry all the weapons the PT PAL 143m design can, while having loads of spaces for UAV, USV and UUV.




BTW if you want a roro/lpd for MMEA, just buy the Makassar, paint it white and be done with it. It will just cost you USD49 million, which is less than a fifth of the price of the Absalon.

cooking oil subsidy remove also cannot tahan still have heart wan to buy french Mistral?

buy mistral and f-35b with armpit hair is it?

This is a pretty interesting tweet.

if that is the current status of the japanese armed forces, their defence minister will have committed hara-kiri already.

but this is malaysia, where there is zero shame for incompetence, irresponsibility and corruption.

Panglima Angkatan Tentera inspects two remaining TUDM CN-235 still being converted into MSA configuration
https://www.indonesian-aerospace.com/press/...+dan+kolaborasi

Not to late.
Can always just joined RSN and participate in the JMMV programs.

Hard to say what's goes in inside TNI. They don't publish their MEF plan publicly, they show poor attempt at following through with the MEF nor anyone are sure what they trying to do with 3 different dual engine 4.5 gen jet Nor why they ordered both Hercules & atlas.




The makassar is built on top of a public ferry. Its not going to be able to be deployed in even a low intensity area without an excort.


An OPV version of Absalon with most of it combat ability removed should be about twice the price of Makassar. MMEA & PDRM is still a gendemarie and a part of defense structure, so there should be some surveillance equipment from the absalon platform that they need that would be plug & play on the absalon platform but needed integration cost for Makassar.

By your reasoning

A LPD design good enough for the Navies of Indonesia, Philippines, Peru, Myanmar is not good enough for Malaysian Coast Guard??

So is a Honda Civic not good enough for police patrol, need to use Leopard 2 MBT?

PH buys two more LPD/SSV from PT PAL
https://www.instagram.com/p/CfLwGsgOeAj/

honda civic is good enough for civilian police roles.
its not enough for gendarmerie like PGA.


the makassar at best is the low in the high low mix. equivalent to the spain navy RoRo or the USN LAW concept.
but both navies still have an aircraft carrier as their strategic lift platforms.

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Rolling out of the first Indonesian Air Force C-130J-30 Super Hercules.