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 Majority of our doctors are poor?

Majority of our doctors are
 
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Knnbuccb
post May 29 2022, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(Letstorque5 @ May 29 2022, 12:41 PM)
Heard that medical professional get 6% discount from BMW Malaysia.
Not only Dr, but architect and lawyer too.

Maybe from Merc too.
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That one is so that people will see their brands as high keras la. Imagine all professionals drive BMW. Those M40 will say wahhh so yeng man that car driven by so many professionals

It's part of marketing. Not for charity... Not like BMW thank doctors for fighting covid so they give discount lmao

This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: May 29 2022, 12:43 PM
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post May 29 2022, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ May 29 2022, 12:41 PM)
Bodo. U compare like that I also compare u other aspects la. Bodo
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different aspect, ur brain too simple cant differentiate i forgive u

bodo
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post May 29 2022, 12:45 PM

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Many specialist migrate to sg, Australia, UK.....

It is always better than lowly paid Malaysia.....
Knnbuccb
post May 29 2022, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(GiganticBird @ May 29 2022, 12:45 PM)
different aspect, ur brain too simple cant differentiate i forgive u

bodo
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U bodo don't say me. Like that u go compare unemployed people easier la

Doctor earn more than penganggur. Habis cerita.
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post May 29 2022, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ May 29 2022, 10:02 AM)
Yes poor

The work they do can't justify by their pay

Many doctors I came about
For the first 5 years they can tahan, say for saving lives
After that, either they go private
Or specialize then go private
Or open own clinic for those have money
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Kesian, some are top students in their respective school, then have to work like a slave in govt hospitals.
If its done for the passion, i guess its worth it.
End of the day, they are humans also, have ends meet.

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post May 29 2022, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(feekle @ May 29 2022, 12:50 PM)
Kesian, some are top students in their respective school, then have to work like a slave in govt hospitals.
If its done for the passion, i guess its worth it.
End of the day, they are humans also, have ends meet.
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No people say they have to be poor, priority is serving others .
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post May 29 2022, 12:51 PM

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Many specialist earn rm200k per mth
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post May 29 2022, 12:52 PM

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Every career start also hard wan la... it depends how u progress your career in later stages. Doctor also same.

U need to work your way up to certain level like become specialists or consultants, then the money will come, regardless u are good doctor or lousy doctor. Yes, seen a few lousy specialists before, still dare open clinic outside... cibai doh.gif

I think on average, most doctor should have good income compare to other profession.
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post May 29 2022, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ May 29 2022, 12:43 PM)
That one is so that people will see their brands as high keras la. Imagine all professionals drive BMW. Those M40 will say wahhh so yeng man that car driven by so many professionals 

It's part of marketing. Not for charity... Not like BMW thank doctors for fighting covid so they give discount lmao
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Yes. I know it is marketing. Not charity.
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QUOTE(Letstorque5 @ May 29 2022, 12:41 PM)
Heard that medical professional get 6% discount from BMW Malaysia.
Not only Dr, but architect and lawyer too.

Maybe from Merc too.
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Haha... 6% are nothing if u can monthly 4k instl
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post May 29 2022, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(CertifiedHomphobe @ May 29 2022, 02:11 PM)
It's neither KKM or MOEs fault. People die2 want to be doctor, eventhough the programme that they chose to study isn't accredited. Medicine is supposed to be limited, not everyone can study it. If they can't get a placement, then it's fine. There's a ton of other degrees you can choose from. But no, need to get into medicine at all costs.

Same goes to engineering. You have people taking courses from literally who universities that's not accredited from BEM  because they weren't accepted with the ones that were accredited. Summore the one that makes me laugh are the ones taking the 3 years programme one without the intention of continuing to masters.... And then blame anjingliars kenot get job. Lol.
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Blame the System OR blame the one allowing such floodgate to easily take place.

Die die want to become doctor, better just go volunteer at Humanitarian Refugee camps. They got Red Cross. Not capitalist career money.

Same as msia engineers, do you see them doing any very simple off study work that is in the field like volunteer the electrification? improve the livelyhood of particular poor community?

Msia education system is stupid to begin with especially the one having too much low class PhD that yield poor impact.
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post May 29 2022, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(Letstorque5 @ May 29 2022, 12:41 PM)
Heard that medical professional get 6% discount from BMW Malaysia.
Not only Dr, but architect and lawyer too.

Maybe from Merc too.
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and insurance agents, and employees from many private companies too

all that means is nothing but how high is the margin earned by BMW principal dealer in Msia


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post May 29 2022, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ May 29 2022, 12:47 PM)
U bodo don't say me. Like that u go compare unemployed people easier la

Doctor earn more than penganggur. Habis cerita.
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suddenly unemployed people pulak

mmg bodo
Knnbuccb
post May 29 2022, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ May 29 2022, 12:53 PM)
Blame the System OR blame the one allowing such floodgate to easily take place.

Die die want to become doctor, better just go volunteer at Humanitarian Refugee camps. They got Red Cross. Not capitalist career money.

Same as msia engineers, do you see them doing any very simple off study work that is in the field like volunteer the electrification? improve the livelyhood of particular poor community?

Msia education system is stupid to begin with especially the one having too much low class PhD that yield poor impact.
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How to volunteer if your own welfare is not taken care of.

Lmao.


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post May 29 2022, 12:57 PM

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Dr paid well but the quality dropping. I dont see any fuss to increase the salary when the service is abysmal
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post May 29 2022, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ May 29 2022, 12:53 PM)
Blame the System OR blame the one allowing such floodgate to easily take place.

Die die want to become doctor, better just go volunteer at Humanitarian Refugee camps. They got Red Cross. Not capitalist career money.

Same as msia engineers, do you see them doing any very simple off study work that is in the field like volunteer the electrification? improve the livelyhood of particular poor community?

Msia education system is stupid to begin with especially the one having too much low class PhD that yield poor impact.
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How to volunteer if your own welfare is not taken care of.

Lmao.

I got friend who is willing to take paycut come back from overseas but can't even get contract job.. if wanna work here must work for free? Might as well stay overseas .... Own welfare is important. If he becomes poor and cannot afford basic upkeeep, will public donate to him? They'll say he stupid , why do stupid thing come back for free and become poor lmao.

I think what u said will happen in a multiverse where doctors get free food free car free house free vacationfree education Then a lot of doctors will not work for money and will volunteer



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post May 29 2022, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ May 29 2022, 12:53 PM)
Blame the System OR blame the one allowing such floodgate to easily take place.

Die die want to become doctor, better just go volunteer at Humanitarian Refugee camps. They got Red Cross. Not capitalist career money.

Same as msia engineers, do you see them doing any very simple off study work that is in the field like volunteer the electrification? improve the livelyhood of particular poor community?

Msia education system is stupid to begin with especially the one having too much low class PhD that yield poor impact.
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Yes even the doctor salary increase the quality is far worse than previous generation.

Wrong diagnose(can read many articles about it) that could cause death
Azury36
post May 29 2022, 01:08 PM

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In order to reduce "the burden" or overload, gov needs to increase number of doctors but the salary is super high.

So reduce the salary then can hire the more doctors

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post May 29 2022, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ May 29 2022, 02:26 PM)
How to volunteer if your own welfare is not taken care of.

Lmao.
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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ May 29 2022, 02:28 PM)
How to volunteer if your own welfare is not taken care of.

Lmao.

I got friend who is willing to take paycut come back from overseas but can't even get contract job.. if wanna work here must work for free? Might as well stay overseas .... Own welfare is important. If he becomes poor and cannot afford basic upkeeep, will public donate to him? They'll say he stupid , why do stupid thing come back for free and become poor lmao.

I think what u said will happen in a multiverse where doctors get free food free car free house free vacationfree education Then a lot of doctors will not work for money and will volunteer
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it is in india. rclxub.gif

supposedly, all these are one way another done via general taxation.

i`m referring to those when they were doing the course.

Not when they done studied or graduate.

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post May 29 2022, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ May 29 2022, 12:27 PM)
She 41yo.

Yes around rm15k. I dont know her reason for not going private. Maybe she wanted to be consultant first.

I am submitting her income tax so I know her pay.
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It's better to stay in government service to get consultant title as there are endless opportunities to try new methods, more patients to practise, latest equipments go to government hospitals first, scholarship for specialist.

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