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 Majority of our doctors are poor?

Majority of our doctors are
 
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ListenToTheWind
post May 29 2022, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ May 29 2022, 12:25 PM)
How old is she.. should be making 15k a month?. Why she don't go private? Neurosurgeon private one of the highest pay right? She got tell u how much can earn?
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She 41yo.

Yes around rm15k. I dont know her reason for not going private. Maybe she wanted to be consultant first.

I am submitting her income tax so I know her pay.
Knnbuccb
post May 29 2022, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ May 29 2022, 10:28 AM)
yes. we medical doctors very poor. not reach /k's RM20k/month standard yet.

me onli have motor after 10 years of govt service. so sadding. T_T
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U wat specialist now. Tell tell
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post May 29 2022, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(tupai @ May 29 2022, 10:36 AM)
Houseman get paid around rm4500. Before OnCall allowances etc. Grade u41

Medical officers get around rm8000++ grade u44

Specialist get around rm13000++ grade u52

Consultant maybe rn15000++ grade u52 or jusa.

Once get jusa, will get a gomen car.

That's under gomen service.
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In government service, Dr can climb the ladder very quick.


Most U52-U56 age around 40s. Some even below 40.
By the time becoming JUSA, mid 40s, easily get Dato/Datuk of still in government service.

Then, resign la join private sector.

Or wait to retire and enjoy JUSA pension, full salary.

In other government sectors, you’ll be lucky to reach JUSA before 55.
Some, only JUSA C with only a year or two of service. No hope of getting to JUSA B.



The thing is, head of government department in every state usually JUSA C.
But in every hospital, easily more that one JUSA.
A big, state-capital hospital, each of department (ortho, pead) in that hospital headed by a JUSA. Director of hospital can be JUSA B.
Which equivalent, or more than Director General of small department like Met Dept, JAKOA, Fisheries Dept

This post has been edited by Letstorque5: May 29 2022, 12:36 PM
Azury36
post May 29 2022, 12:30 PM

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Poor empathy
Knnbuccb
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QUOTE(ketupatlazat @ May 29 2022, 11:02 AM)
first 10 yrs maybe struggle a little

once they make the jump to private, making 6 figures a month no issue one
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My friend 10 years just complete specialist training. Jump outside ownself also don't dare.. patient see no white hair ask is legit doctor or fake one
Knnbuccb
post May 29 2022, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ May 29 2022, 11:10 AM)
that's what the main question is: majority  icon_idea.gif
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Majority is not top tier. Lmao. Average is majority rit.
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post May 29 2022, 12:33 PM

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Maybe it's just me, but if one has made a decision to be a doctor the first thing on their mind should not be about remuneration but about how they can be the best to save lives. There must be commitment and dedication, put their heart and soul into it because they're dealing with peoples lives.

If pay is so important, they shouldn't be doctors in the first place. Go be a politician

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Knnbuccb
post May 29 2022, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ May 29 2022, 12:27 PM)
She 41yo.

Yes around rm15k. I dont know her reason for not going private. Maybe she wanted to be consultant first.

I am submitting her income tax so I know her pay.
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U urself ask la... Since u earn 20k. Whether what she do to earn 15k is easy like what ktard said.

U tell her go private hospital, every specialist there is consultant... Lmao.
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post May 29 2022, 12:35 PM

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What do one expect from milling
CyberSetan
post May 29 2022, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ May 29 2022, 12:28 PM)
U wat specialist now. Tell tell
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siham specialist. biggrin.gif
ListenToTheWind
post May 29 2022, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ May 29 2022, 12:34 PM)
U urself ask la... Since u earn 20k. Whether what she do to earn 15k is easy like what ktard said.

U tell her go private hospital, every specialist there is consultant... Lmao.
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Maybe she want to help lot of unfortunate that cant afford private hefty bill. She save a lot of orang kampung from pedalaman. They been so thankful of her service and buy her hamper fod saving their loves one life.

At the mean time I making about 3-4 times her pay just selling on Shopee which a SPM drop out can do.

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Knnbuccb
post May 29 2022, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(alternativehype @ May 29 2022, 12:33 PM)
Maybe it's just me, but if one has made a decision to be a doctor the first thing on their mind should not be about remuneration but about how they can be the best to save lives. There must be commitment and dedication, put their heart and soul into it because they're dealing with peoples lives.

If pay is so important, they shouldn't be doctors in the first place. Go be a politician
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It's not wrong to expect to be paid reasonably for the services they render. A doctor can be a good doctor and be paid well. Just because someone is paid well, he is not a good doctor?

If you pay doctors well they won't need to think about renumeration, and they will devote their time to patients instead of playing crypto or saham etc , doing extra shifts in clinics outside

In fact that's why some professions are paid well . To prevent them from having to look for sources of income unscrupulously. For example judge etc.


Knnbuccb
post May 29 2022, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ May 29 2022, 12:38 PM)
Maybe she want to help lot of unfortunate that cant afford private hefty bill. She save a lot of orang kampung from pedalaman. They been so thankful of her private and buy her hamper fod saving their loves one life.

At the mean time I making about 3-4 times her pay just selling on Shopee which a SPM drop out can do.
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Thank you for educating stupid /ktards. Besides the stories of bbws and aunties ....

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GiganticBird
post May 29 2022, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ May 29 2022, 12:27 PM)
Business anyone can open with money. Doctor u think anyone can just say eh I wanna be specialist leh, I pay money let me enter... Oh I also don't want to work after 10pm, like a kedai business also tutup after that.

Lmao.
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am not saying doctor or business anyone also cincai can do but one with his expertise and experience as a specialist, the income they going to earn is better than most businessman

bodo
Strike Eureka
post May 29 2022, 12:40 PM

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I see my doctor fren very rich 1 le.....but he free do locum la
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ May 29 2022, 12:36 PM)
siham specialist.  biggrin.gif
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O&g? Wow. Congrats.
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post May 29 2022, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ May 29 2022, 10:38 AM)
Actually they aint poor. They been swindled BY mushroom of private universities with no credibility/recognition in Malaysia/overseas Commonwealth system.

Which ended in their career progress cost.

And the KKM and MOE never address this problem.

Who to blame at the end?

Politician Like the name Dr.M
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It's neither KKM or MOEs fault. People die2 want to be doctor, eventhough the programme that they chose to study isn't accredited. Medicine is supposed to be limited, not everyone can study it. If they can't get a placement, then it's fine. There's a ton of other degrees you can choose from. But no, need to get into medicine at all costs.

Same goes to engineering. You have people taking courses from literally who universities that's not accredited from BEM because they weren't accepted with the ones that were accredited. Summore the one that makes me laugh are the ones taking the 3 years programme one without the intention of continuing to masters.... And then blame anjingliars kenot get job. Lol.

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Letstorque5
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QUOTE(Muchafaka @ May 29 2022, 10:07 AM)
Doctor
Poor
Drive bmw merc

Omai
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Heard that medical professional get 6% discount from BMW Malaysia.
Not only Dr, but architect and lawyer too.

Maybe from Merc too.
Knnbuccb
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QUOTE(GiganticBird @ May 29 2022, 12:40 PM)
am not saying doctor or business anyone also cincai can do but one with his expertise and experience as a specialist, the income they going to earn is better than most businessman

bodo
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Bodo. U compare like that I also compare u other aspects la. Bodo


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post May 29 2022, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ May 29 2022, 12:40 PM)
O&g? Wow. Congrats.
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no. i specialize onli in my wifuuu siham. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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