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post May 22 2022, 11:48 AM

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junsheng
post May 22 2022, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ May 22 2022, 11:33 AM)
Just complain to them gao gao

I belip all mobile operator r the same

Just off your phone or turn on airplane mode when oversea, the moment your hp show oversea network provider name, u will have the risk of being charge for roaming
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post May 22 2022, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ May 22 2022, 04:51 AM)
yup, and many don't understand phone treat roaming into cellular data and cellular network
for cellular data just turn off data roaming
for cellular network you will need to turn on airplane mode, then on wifi or bluetooth if you need it
especially when you are in countries that are in contract with the telco you sign up with

mcmc mandate things like automatic subscription etc to prevent bill shock

so you will be charged for or auto subscribe to roaming if you do
1. outgoing and incoming calls
2. outgoing and incoming sms (if you are able to receive any sms)
in his case voicemail works like receiving incoming calls hence auto subs to roaming

all these charges are on contract basis between telco and the roaming package
these are the typical scenarios you will get charged
A: MY number in MY
B: MY number in SG
C: SG number
D: MY number in SG (your left hand gf travelling with you)

1. A call B, B will get charged & local charge for A, as A is calling using local cell tower, while B is using oversea cell tower.
2. B call A, B will get charged because B is using oversea cell tower, while A not
3. B call C, B will get charged, while C not
4. C call B, both will get charged, particular C might get international charge, why? Because C have to dial international exit code + country code to get to B, so it will get to MY then point back to SG, depending how the call route is being setup C might get international charge or just initial connection charge
5. B call D, both will get charged
the only thing is free is emergency call even there are no roaming partners, you would still be able to make such call

so, make sure to ask both side (your telco & the partners) to prevent bill shock to you and your friends
or just get a tourist sim
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Pretty much what you laid out.

I used to work in telco as CS (singapore) so I used to see all these cases so often. Especially when the residents are located at Woodlands and they connect to Malaysian telco and get charged.

When recommend to turn off intl roaming facility, they don't want, but complain phone auto connect to Malaysia telco. laugh.gif

Then ask to set Manual connect in Settings, say very mafan.

You say all liao lor laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post May 22 2022, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(andyng38 @ May 22 2022, 09:57 AM)
Aiyoyo! So much trouble.
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Well that's tech advancement for u.
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post May 22 2022, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ May 22 2022, 09:31 PM)
Pretty much what you laid out.

I used to work in telco as CS (singapore) so I used to see all these cases so often. Especially when the residents are located at Woodlands and they connect to Malaysian telco and get charged.

When recommend to turn off intl roaming facility, they don't want, but complain phone auto connect to Malaysia telco. laugh.gif

Then ask to set Manual connect in Settings, say very mafan.

You say all liao lor laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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well i had to explain this a lot of times about the technicality, to HR and the victims
worst our business involves in these kind of trade and our employees still inept about it
even with mandate rules, still they ignore it and manage to rack thousands in charges

solution to these kind of problems should come from multiple gov regulatory
- clearer explanations on how telecommunication works
- option to turn on and off roaming access facility to everyone

best one is to form an alliance and get rid of retail roaming price, just like what EU did
making cellular network trade behaves somewhat like backbone tier 2 internet, with wholesales price still exist
within EU, calls and sms is charged at local rate, roaming data and charges allowance is fixed and predefined
which is unheard of in any market, legal obligation to provide service at a loss if there is increase of cost
it also force the telcos within EU to negotiate for a better wholesales price
implement ways for a better cellular network routing and handover, offloading it to ims like volte vowifi to reduce cost

no shitty maxshit stuffs, we detected you are in oversea, vowifi OFF, pay us roaming fees devil.gif
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