It seems my management put out notice for bike riders not to park our bikes at car parking bay. Condo is 3 year old, before this wasn't an issue.
So what if still park it but get clamped, can fight them?
Parking bay is owned by me, even if I put bed to sleep there, isn't the management's concern right? Or am I wrong?

This post has been edited by legendgod: May 17 2022, 03:39 PM

No, you signed Deed of Mutual Covenant. Parking of vehicles rules was stated in the Deed of Mutual Covenant.

It shall be a standard By-Laws spelled in such "The Purchaser and the Persons Authorized by Purchaser shall comply with all rules and regulations as may from time to time be laid down by Vendor or the Appropriate Authorities in the relation to parking of vehicles'.

It will be your wrong doing if according to By-Laws.

You are neither wrong or right. Is part and parcel living in strata.

Get yourself voted in the agm and change the rules.

Its "car"park and not "motorcycle"park right?

either TS didnt park motorbike properly in the lot OR got some Karen go and complain. My condo allow residents to park their motorbike in their own carpark lot as long as it is not blocking or causing any hassle to other vehicles. So far all ok je

Parking my motorcycle at my own parking lot as well.

Was worried the same for a bit, but so far so good.

hopefully no Karen come and complain.

I don't think it works that way in a strata community. An example is your balcony - since you own the balcony, it doesn't mean you can organise BBQ at the balcony.

Maybe you want to find out from management why the notice was put up. It could just be some idiot parking his bike and car in his spot and the bike "makan" his neighbour's parking spot or parked very close to neighbour's car.

strata

you don't own shit... freedom is an illusion

the problem is monkey see, monkey do, they see a bike parked in a car spot, and nobody do anything to do, then they will think they can do the same, just park in other ppl's spot, or visitor's.

you are creating issues for everybody, even its your spot, you are creating a bad example, ppl dont know you owned it, and management isnt going to explain to everybody coming in.

own a bike parking spot instead. think as a part of the community, not just as yourself.

what do you mean "own a bike parking spot" ?

FYI, assuming this is condo parking we talking bout, unlike car parking which is own by specific unit, motorcycle parking is free for all, and there is no such thing as "own a bike parking spot".

also for this case , TS park motor at his own car parking, how is that creating bad example or issue ?

My condo's have issues where some owners squeeze their bike and small vehicle into a single lot. The car next to it have issues opening their doors or leaving no space for them to retrieve stuff from trunk. Causing inconveniences to others.

Many filed complaints since there's designated lot for motorbikes.

This post has been edited by Xccess: May 18 2022, 05:38 AM

ppl will see a bike park in car parking spot and tot its just a random visitor parked, and management dont care, mean they can do the same.

My apartment got 1 unit always park the motorbike at walkway…..
Management already giv notice also still park there…
Btw, that unit macam keep ccp mistress….
But every weekend got many guy drive pickup come stay overnight…
Don’t know…

propose every parking lot with plet number. problem solved.

If previously no issue, then suddenly becoming an issue, it is either there is a rule change, or somebody went to complain. Since ts is not aware of any rule change recently, most likely is because somebody went to complain to the management team, so management team needs to take action.

2 Condo - cant park at my own bay ... car only ... been warned.
Office parking - cant park at my own designated bay ... car only ... clamped and let of with a warning.

They have designated bike parking area but its too narrow for me ... end of story, my problem, not theirs.

Walkway different story la

Ok for my place , this will never happen because the resident parking is gated and only those with access card can enter.

Random cannot enter. So what you mention won't happen over here, since people are surely aware those car parking belongs to some one. Which I guess this is the reason why so far no notice mention motor cannot park at car parking by now ...

Here we have multiple motorcycle park their bike at their own car park slot. Note that most of them is super bike, which is larger than usual kapzai.

The only reason why I park at car parking slot is because the given motor parking is too small for my motorcycle, since my motor is full size motorbike (required b full license), not those kapzai.

So I assume what you talking about is open parking where random have access, so when they see other motor park at a car park, other follow and park their motor as well.

FYI, car did the same as well, when one car park at motor parking, the rest of the car follow, and each car take up 4 to 5 motor parking slot.

This post has been edited by sammm33: May 18 2022, 02:26 PM

I mean visitors. they enter the building and they will just see what others do then follow, seeing bike park at car spot, then they will just park their bike at car's spot.

ok so you mention enter a building , now we are talking bout indoor parking.

but even if you assume the visitor bike came into the building , and see another bike is parking at a car parking, how frequent did you see a visitor motor park at a car park that own by another person ?

and despite i mention i saw car park at motor parking slot , these usually happen at outdoor parking.
the same for motor, at indoor parking , the chances for a motor to park at another person car parking slot , especially at residential indoor parking , is 0.
most likely that visitor bike will park together beside that motor at that car park slot , instead of on another separate car parking slot , this is possible i can think of.

i hope these make sense. motor rider is not that stupid or retarded.

of course there is stupid and retarded rider , but that is the same to car drivers.


and personally , if you ask me , by any chance at my current place get the same treatment from management , i will go further to say that this happen because some one being sour and raise a complain to management , just because they themselves lack of car parking.

because of that , when they saw some one park a motor at a carpark, even thou that is the motor's own car park slot, they rage and complain was definitely raised out of jealousy.
There is no way parking a motor at their own car parking slot will cause any harm or block other vehicle in any possible matter, so this is the only reason i can came out with.

there is , however , another scenario i can think of : motor park at the space between two car parking, usually the space reserved for open car doors.
if in the event a motor park there , then yes, that deserve some notice.

Some people in condos park their bike in between cars, which probably why they make such rule.

This. Maybe not TS's fault but other rider to don't park properly.

Also motobodo that don't follow direction in the carparks also another issue.

My apartment has mentioned you can park motobike in your own parking lot as long as it is not squeezing in between vehicles.

well you can argue all you want, management has their own thought, you might think chances of it happen is slim, however it might still happen, and if you are management, do you want to take this slim chance, and go get a guard patrol the area and see if there are other visitor bikes parked at visitor car spot ? or just tell a person not to set a bad example ?

Car park lot is usually shared between adjacent space.

the presence of motorbike may cause scratch/dents to the vehicle park beside that lot.
motorbike usually dont give a shit to the car when squeeze in between or blatantly position nearby to the next parking lot.

if you have no vehicle parked there, you may park directly middle of your space.
but for every 1 person that park mid of the parking lot, there are also 10 that may park both car and bike there.

Haha here bikers dont give themselves personal space.. cilok here cilok there.. made people think only need the 2x5 feet box and dont deserve 1 whole car lot.

Seriously, assume that management decisions is due to the reason you mention, that actually make sense to you?

My point is ,I don't think that is the case, that reason from you for the management to do this, is way too stupid and unbelievable.

Again, in not denying the possibility, but here must be something else that cause the management to decide to do this.

Yes, to you it sounds stupid cause you never in that situation b4, like in my taman, ppl take things to block around the area to reverse their parking, at beginning, only 1 person doing it, and ppl think its ok, then later alot of ppl doing it, now ppl think its not ok since if visitor come, sure no parking.

once the bad example is set and no action take, then ppl will think its ok, and 2nd person doing it, then 3rd, its hard to convince ppl to stop doing it when half of the taman ppl doing the same thing, you convinced 1 to stop, then the other house see a spot, then instantly take it, then you need to convince that, its something that u cannot let it to start.

i understand that outdoor parking does happen what you mention.
hence why i mention im not deny that.
the fact is , just look at how car park shamelessly at motor parking nearby shoplots.
and how cars park at OKU car parking, despite that particular car no OKU sticker at all.
i sincerely believe these situation need more attention.

but how can you take your taman experience, which is outdoor parking, and compare it with indoor parking ?
situation is totally different, and what can happen here is totally different as well when compare to taman parking.

here indoor parking is a much more controlled area, and "visitor accidently park at someone's parking slot" literally cannot happen here.
if in the event , some one else did park at a slot that does not belongs to that unit, guard and security will come right away to solve this issue.
best case scenario is both car and parking owner meet up and settle this by them self.
hence management have no reason to announce and decide motor cannot park at a car parking.

but for TS case , the management did decide that motor cannot park in car parking.
even thou i not sure what is the reason, but i quite sure this happen not because due to some visitor motor park at another person's car parking lot.

definitely is something else, such as maybe some stupid die die park their motor at the space between two car.
hence management decide motor only can park at motor parking.

well its about the same logic, its visitor's parking. If an owner can park his bike in his car parking lot, then a visitor should be allowed to park a visitor's bike into visitor's car parking lot.

1st you compare indoor parking with your outdoor parking.
And compare landed parking with leveled parking such as condo.

Then now you compare visitor parking with parking that own by a resident.

All these comparison totally doesn't make sense at all, yet you call these same logic, holy cow.

How you can even think this even make any sense, and can be compare it in such a way, is beyond me.

This post has been edited by sammm33: May 20 2022, 04:23 AM

then use exact same comparison, only cars parked in car parking, you put bikes, like what you claimed, bikes and cars not comparable at all, doesnt make sense.

U buy pipit strata house..u follow strata rules.

Cando have 2 car park, side by side. I park smack right in the middle of one car park pun kena . Left side is my car park too and the other side is a big ass pillar.

Go to management opis ... they say bike parking -----> that way ... knb.
I say ur bike parking path is very narrow, gua mau masuk kluar susah, some bend have to 3 point turn ... they say its my problem ... haiz ... suan ba le ... vespa je la.

This post has been edited by ShadowR1: May 20 2022, 03:52 PM

No wonder weekend random bike riding, some malay dude was asking question like “eh bro bike ni you parking macam mana?”, it got me so stunned… i just say.. err park rumah? While my group also… err..

That’s also because im only riding with chinese group, who majority(all) have at least a semi-d or higher end landed house and luxury car and shit, it never crossed our mind…

Now that i read this topic, guess there are people who’s just staying in a condo, but go buy superbike. I will just say maybe their priorities are right, hah yea… right.

Anyway, even if i ride a bike, i will still say - if you have a bike, go park in motor parking, don’t mengada-ada thinking you’re a class above smaller bike. Even if i’m riding a 170k bike, I don’t go park it in car parking spot, hell i never would even thought about it.

you got a point.

I just want to know those so call "condo" got people park ex5 in the car parking lot or not ?

Got, a kapchai park at his own spot. Meet him at management opis when wanna buka clamp

Both let off with warning, nex time will fine ... they say.

My condo got few owners park their bike in their car parking lot. I don't see any issue at all as long as not causing inconvenience to others.

if like that really pity. Now 1 lot in those so call "condo" almost cost Rm30k at least. Some others expensive until RM50k++ each lot.

My condo also just recently issued the same directive. I wonder if managemnt all same.

I just showed them my bike cannot fit the usual sized motorcycle lot. So that was the end of it. A week later another notice came out allowing us to park at our own lots.

The problem is some people park improperly (usually tenants) and block other residents or have to squeeze out between cars). So kena complain. Knee jerk reaction lor.

But I'm owner so maybe more leeway.

I see your point but again, if in the event, no issue happen or cause any problem , what's the point?

Like seriously, I park motor,or even a bicycle at my own designated car parking lot, what harm or issue can it bring to others?

There's good reason why we don't see such rule in every resident indoor parking, at least not at my condo.

Maybe TS place have too many retards that park like axs, hence management have no choice but to setup such rule.

High chance there is related conflict happen over there due to parking. People nowadays can't even live peacefully jesus christ what the heck wrong with these people.

This part I understand. Kapchai riders are used to parking all over the place blocking exits and more importantly fire access... If bomba kacau sure kena.

But parking at own lot should be allowed. I'm not in anyone's way...

My bike literally won't fit in a standard 2x5 motorcycle lot. It's 900mm wide with side panniers on.

Same here. Mine with side box on.
The provided motor parking cannot fit my motorbike unless I squeeze in with other kapzai.

I can see why TS management decide to just stop everyone from parking motor at car slot.

From management stand point, that's the easiest way in the event some kind of conflict already happening due to motor park at car slot.

Some unit come with 1 car park ... some unit have 2. Duno how much for an extra parking but I think its in the range you mentioned.

As mentioned by a furumer, when I park at their designated spot, my bike is protruded out like a sore thumb

Management say cannot ... cannot lo ... not gonna waste breath argue with them, I have better things to do

its beyond discussion, its a car parking.

and you just being unreasonable.

the ability to be reasonable make us human, and i would really want to say that you are not.

but im not here to judge you.

i hope you don't have to end up in a situation, for whatever reason, begging other to be reasonable for you, so that you can get out of a shitty situation that is not favor yourself.

and by any chance, if that happen , i hope you will remember whatever we have discuss here.

This post has been edited by sammm33: May 21 2022, 12:39 AM

you are the 1 not reasonable, its a car parking, you can park your car, the management has the right to uphold their rules, and ya, rules are not human, rules are rules, car means car, bike means bike, its not comparable, if you dont want to park your car, then dont buy the spot, its for car. it doesnt mean you buy it then you can change the rule.

Maybe you need to find out the ratio of good vs bad biker.

perhaps for every 1 good bike that parks nicely in the middle, there could be 10 that park at the border line or cause dents/scratches to the next adjacent vehicle.

EXPAI Owner parking chun chun in the middle of 3 carpark slot.

what are you talking here ? buy a car parking spot ?
car parking spot is provided together when you purchase a residential unit, no additional cost involve.

AND NO , such stupid rule that mention by you is not being enforce here.
because here, we have less to non stupid/retard people that park like what you describe.
WE DONT DO THAT HERE. so stop thinking all park like retard,.

again, being REASONABLE is the only reason why all indoor parking is not doing what you mention , "parking for car only car and motor only motor." else why not all indoor parking enforce such rule ?

BECAUSE people being reasonable. whatever you highlight is not happening with a good reason.

read the contract b4 you buy, contract do not reason, if you want to reason, go buy land and make your own reason parking, dont go buy a car parking and reason.

You cant park bike there because its a car park lot not a bike lot friend. Car park is for car park.

Its stated in your bylaws anyway unless u add another 2 wheels

Did I say you can park a bike in car park spot?

well, Thats pretty much the gold standard before signing contract. Ready, AGREE TO ALL TERMS before committing.


This is why many people cry foul when being chased for unpaid debts from loans (CC,car or house loan) ,claiming the other party /banks UNREASONABLE . LMAO.



This post has been edited by alanyuppie: May 21 2022, 08:19 PM

Yup , "golden", just like most of your Lego creation, all looks and feel way too "try hard".

Whatever that you insist. Keep that going and power to you

The truth is here we don't have tards at your level , and motorcycle can be park at car parking no issue. Thankfully.

So take that together with whatever rules and contract you have or know , and shove it into your common sense.