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post May 17 2022, 10:55 PM

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the problem is monkey see, monkey do, they see a bike parked in a car spot, and nobody do anything to do, then they will think they can do the same, just park in other ppl's spot, or visitor's.

you are creating issues for everybody, even its your spot, you are creating a bad example, ppl dont know you owned it, and management isnt going to explain to everybody coming in.

own a bike parking spot instead. think as a part of the community, not just as yourself.

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post May 18 2022, 06:08 AM

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QUOTE(sammm33 @ May 18 2022, 03:45 AM)
what do you mean "own a bike parking spot" ?

FYI, assuming this is condo parking we talking bout, unlike car parking which is own by specific unit, motorcycle parking is free for all, and there is no such thing as "own a bike parking spot".

also for this case , TS park motor at his own car parking, how is that creating bad example or issue ?
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ppl will see a bike park in car parking spot and tot its just a random visitor parked, and management dont care, mean they can do the same.
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post May 18 2022, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(sammm33 @ May 18 2022, 02:06 PM)
Ok for my place , this will never happen because the resident parking is gated and only those with access card can enter.

Random cannot enter. So what you mention won't happen over here, since people are surely aware those car parking belongs to some one. Which I guess this is the reason why so far no notice mention motor cannot park at car parking by now ...

Here we have multiple motorcycle park their bike at their own car park slot. Note that most of them is super bike, which is larger than usual kapzai.

The only reason why I park at car parking slot is because the given motor parking is too small for my motorcycle, since my motor is full size motorbike (required b full license), not those kapzai.

So I assume what you talking about is open parking where random have access, so when they see other motor park at a car park, other follow and park their motor as well.

FYI, car did the same as well, when one car park at motor parking, the rest of the car follow, and each car take up 4 to 5 motor parking slot.
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I mean visitors. they enter the building and they will just see what others do then follow, seeing bike park at car spot, then they will just park their bike at car's spot.
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post May 19 2022, 06:12 AM

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QUOTE(sammm33 @ May 18 2022, 05:24 PM)
ok so you mention enter a building , now we are talking bout indoor parking.

but even if you assume the visitor bike came into the building , and see another bike is parking at a car parking, how frequent did you see a visitor motor park at a car park that own by another person ?

and despite i mention i saw car park at motor parking slot , these usually happen at outdoor parking.
the same for motor, at indoor parking , the chances for a motor to park at another person car parking slot , especially at residential indoor parking , is 0.
most likely that visitor bike will park together beside that motor at that car park slot , instead of on another separate car parking slot , this is possible i can think of. 

i hope these make sense. motor rider is not that stupid or retarded.

of course there is stupid and retarded rider , but that is the same to car drivers.
and personally , if you ask me , by any chance at my current place get the same treatment from management , i will go further to say that this happen because some one being sour and raise a complain to management , just because they themselves lack of car parking.

because of that , when they saw some one park a motor at a carpark, even thou that is the motor's own car park slot, they rage and complain was definitely raised out of jealousy.
There is no way parking a motor at their own car parking slot will cause any harm or block other vehicle in any possible matter, so this is the only reason i can came out with.

there is , however , another scenario i can think of : motor park at the space between two car parking, usually the space reserved for open car doors.
if in the event a motor park there , then yes, that deserve some notice.
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well you can argue all you want, management has their own thought, you might think chances of it happen is slim, however it might still happen, and if you are management, do you want to take this slim chance, and go get a guard patrol the area and see if there are other visitor bikes parked at visitor car spot ? or just tell a person not to set a bad example ?
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post May 19 2022, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(sammm33 @ May 19 2022, 03:53 PM)
Seriously, assume that management decisions is due to the reason you mention, that actually make sense to you?

My point is ,I don't think that is the case, that reason from you for the management to do this, is way too stupid and unbelievable.

Again, in not denying the possibility, but here must be something else that cause the management to decide to do this.
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Yes, to you it sounds stupid cause you never in that situation b4, like in my taman, ppl take things to block around the area to reverse their parking, at beginning, only 1 person doing it, and ppl think its ok, then later alot of ppl doing it, now ppl think its not ok since if visitor come, sure no parking.

once the bad example is set and no action take, then ppl will think its ok, and 2nd person doing it, then 3rd, its hard to convince ppl to stop doing it when half of the taman ppl doing the same thing, you convinced 1 to stop, then the other house see a spot, then instantly take it, then you need to convince that, its something that u cannot let it to start.
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post May 20 2022, 03:51 AM

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QUOTE(sammm33 @ May 20 2022, 01:58 AM)
i understand that outdoor parking does happen what you mention.
hence why i mention im not deny that. 
the fact is , just look at how car park shamelessly at motor parking nearby shoplots.
and how cars park at OKU car parking, despite that particular car no OKU sticker at all.
i sincerely believe these situation need more attention.

but how can you take your taman experience, which is outdoor parking, and compare it with indoor parking ?
situation is totally different, and what can happen here is totally different as well when compare to taman parking.

here indoor parking is a much more controlled area, and "visitor accidently park at someone's parking slot" literally cannot happen here.
if in the event , some one else did park at a slot that does not belongs to that unit, guard and security will come right away to solve this issue.
best case scenario is both car and parking owner meet up and settle this by them self.
hence management have no reason to announce and decide motor cannot park at a car parking.

but for TS case , the management did decide that motor cannot park in car parking.
even thou i not sure what is the reason, but i quite sure this happen not because due to some visitor motor park at another person's car parking lot.

definitely is something else, such as maybe some stupid die die park their motor at the space between two car.
hence management decide motor only can park at motor parking.
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well its about the same logic, its visitor's parking. If an owner can park his bike in his car parking lot, then a visitor should be allowed to park a visitor's bike into visitor's car parking lot.
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post May 20 2022, 05:48 AM

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QUOTE(sammm33 @ May 20 2022, 04:15 AM)
1st you compare indoor parking with your outdoor parking.
And compare landed parking with leveled parking such as condo.

Then now you compare visitor parking with parking that own by a resident.

All these comparison totally doesn't make sense at all, yet you call these same logic, holy cow.

How you can even think this even make any sense, and can be compare it in such a way, is beyond me.
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then use exact same comparison, only cars parked in car parking, you put bikes, like what you claimed, bikes and cars not comparable at all, doesnt make sense.
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post May 20 2022, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(sammm33 @ May 20 2022, 04:23 PM)
I see your point but again, if in the event, no issue happen or cause any problem , what's the point?

Like seriously, I park motor,or even a bicycle at my own designated car parking lot, what harm or issue can it bring to others?

There's good reason why we don't see such rule in every resident indoor parking, at least not at my condo.

Maybe TS place have too many retards that park like axs, hence management have no choice but to setup such rule.

High chance there is related conflict happen over there due to parking. People nowadays can't even live peacefully jesus christ what the heck wrong with these people.
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its beyond discussion, its a car parking.
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post May 21 2022, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(sammm33 @ May 21 2022, 12:31 AM)
and you just being unreasonable.

the ability to be reasonable make us human, and i would really want to say that you are not.

but im not here to judge you.

i hope you don't have to end up in a situation, for whatever reason, begging other to be reasonable for you, so that you can get out of a shitty situation that is not favor yourself.

and by any chance, if that happen , i hope you will remember whatever we have discuss here.
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you are the 1 not reasonable, its a car parking, you can park your car, the management has the right to uphold their rules, and ya, rules are not human, rules are rules, car means car, bike means bike, its not comparable, if you dont want to park your car, then dont buy the spot, its for car. it doesnt mean you buy it then you can change the rule.
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post May 21 2022, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(sammm33 @ May 21 2022, 02:34 PM)
what are you talking here ? buy a car parking spot ?
car parking spot is provided together when you purchase a residential unit, no additional cost involve.

AND NO , such stupid rule that mention by you is not being enforce here.
because here, we have less to non stupid/retard people that park like what you describe.
WE DONT DO THAT HERE. so stop thinking all park like retard,.

again, being REASONABLE is the only reason why all indoor parking is not doing what you mention , "parking for car only car and motor only motor." else why not all indoor parking enforce such rule ?

BECAUSE people being reasonable. whatever you highlight is not happening with a good reason.
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read the contract b4 you buy, contract do not reason, if you want to reason, go buy land and make your own reason parking, dont go buy a car parking and reason.

 

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