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 Notice many msian parent send kids to, international school: good kah ?

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TSmezanny
post Mar 10 2023, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Mar 10 2023, 11:12 AM)
It's an Asian thing

asian parents loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tution
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I don't.

its where teachers charge you exhorbitantly

if they delivered their classes well in school we won't need tution.
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post Mar 10 2023, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(mezanny @ Mar 10 2023, 11:15 AM)
beggars can't be choosers.

What to do?

yeah its a problem with chinese ed students, some big 4 refuse to hire them inspite their brilliance 4A in STPM and local grad top scorer, but when comes to interview, krik krik krik, too quiet.
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It is not only Chinese ed students. SK students are even worse.

I think it is one of the reasons why some parents are going to private or international school. Some who can't afford it will still try to send to those shoplot learning centers.

That is the failure of our education system when even those shoplot learning centers are better choice than government funded schools including SRJKC.
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post Mar 10 2023, 11:24 AM

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its up to parent mindset and pocket.

at international school u will see international people too. mindset local people and international people are not same.
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post Mar 10 2023, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Mar 10 2023, 11:12 AM)
It's an Asian thing

asian parents loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tution
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Due to crazy competition to be the very best!

QUOTE(mezanny @ Mar 10 2023, 11:17 AM)
I don't.

its where teachers charge you exhorbitantly

if they delivered their classes well in school we won't need tution.
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Even my time my teachers admitted they put close to 0 effort at school so can save energy for their tuition classes since they can make so much more money there. Excuse is the students hopeless and won't listen.

Quite disgusting imo but our system created this issue and keeps encouraging it.
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post Mar 10 2023, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Mar 10 2023, 11:19 AM)
It is not only Chinese ed students. SK students are even worse.

I think it is one of the reasons why some parents are going to private or international school. Some who can't afford it will still try to send to those shoplot learning centers.

That is the failure of our education system when even those shoplot learning centers are better choice than government funded schools including SRJKC.
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its very high risk.

I heard one couple was doing very well, sending both kids to international

then MCO came, one of the parent lost his job, then they are now struggling to put their kids through school
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QUOTE(knumskul @ Mar 10 2023, 04:13 PM)
Due to crazy competition to be the very best!
Even my time my teachers admitted they put close to 0 effort at school so can save energy for their tuition classes since they can make so much more money there. Excuse is the students hopeless and won't listen.

Quite disgusting imo but our system created this issue and keeps encouraging it.
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I heard of cases some teachers were doing so well in their tution biz, that they can send their kids overseas to the best universities.

also their houses are BIG
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post Mar 10 2023, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(mezanny @ Mar 10 2023, 05:25 PM)
I heard of cases some teachers were doing so well in their tution biz, that they can send their kids overseas to the best universities.

also their houses are BIG
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Not surprising. Especially those open chain of tuition centers while still being a school teacher.
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QUOTE(mezanny @ Mar 10 2023, 05:24 PM)
its very high risk.

I heard one couple was doing very well, sending both kids to international

then MCO came, one of the parent lost his job, then they are now struggling to put their kids through school
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That is the risk of taking them out. That is why most will still stay in SRJKC for primary school
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post Mar 10 2023, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(mezanny @ Mar 10 2023, 11:16 AM)
you mentioned your daughter who is from chinese school is helping your son who is from international school ?

hmm.gif seems like international school should be the one to foster easy learning.

may i ask what are the symptoms of ADHD ? what causes it?
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She was helping him when he was still in SRK.

Symptoms. Lack of concentration. Difficulty forming concepts, slow language uptake, irritability. These are just symptoms, not necessarily clinical ADHD...but they can also develop into more serious symptoms.

It's just that some people are just "wired" differently. Children sometimes will face these issues while they grow...very often they will grow out of it if early childhood educators recognize the problem and is able to use a different teaching method.
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post Mar 10 2023, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(mezanny @ Mar 10 2023, 09:14 AM)
Not for Australia.

They look down on local education of other countries.

This is why Parents die die send their children for AIMST or IGSCE.
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huh really?

like even if that person graduates from a reputable uni , they still dig his history of sec school?

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post Mar 11 2023, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ Mar 10 2023, 04:13 PM)
Due to crazy competition to be the very best!
Even my time my teachers admitted they put close to 0 effort at school so can save energy for their tuition classes since they can make so much more money there. Excuse is the students hopeless and won't listen.

Quite disgusting imo but our system created this issue and keeps encouraging it.
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Oh god this literally reminded me of my childhood.

I've had teachers back in SMK who literally refused to teach. REFUSED. He would literally come in and say "sakit kepala" la "sakit perut" and bullshit and say today "buat kerja sendiri" or "rilek".

The teacher would then promote his/her own tuition classes and say if want to "truly" learn, come to the tuition.

People really have no idea how messed up our SK/SMK is. Malays who insistently want Chinese to attend SK/SMK turn a blind eye to the absolutely shit schools we have. The Chinese reject SK/SMK because the schools are FULL OF SHIT.

I'm sorry but non-folks here, please never make the mistake of sending your kids to SK/SMK because chances are they're shit. Malays themselves especially the good ones get handpicked to attend MARA, while the richer ones send their kids to international schools. These should tell you a lot.

This post has been edited by trojandude: Mar 11 2023, 01:09 AM
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post Mar 11 2023, 01:23 AM

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now i see their permainan alrdy asking to make single stream school, but ownself got mala to go... ....

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post Mar 11 2023, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(df569 @ Mar 9 2023, 06:21 PM)
Yes still offered.

You are right, I wasn't her student but am from the class next door. She specialises in chinese literature. Very well respected amongst teachers and students as the top chinese teacher in Catholic High. She is also the unit head.
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Is Chinese Literature offered to all students in the school, or only to selected students/classes/streams?

I see Mdm. Chua turns 55 this year - my son will enter CHS in a week's time, and I hope he may be blessed to be part of her final cohort of Chinese Language and Chinese Literature students before she retires in 5-6 years' time. Looks like she also coaches the CHS Chinese Language Debating Team (who have been winning quite a number of the National Chinese Debating competitions, even beating the Chinese Independent High Schools!).

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post Mar 11 2023, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(MiniCooperS1275 @ Mar 11 2023, 03:38 PM)
Is Chinese Literature offered to all students in the school, or only to selected students/classes/streams?

I see Mdm. Chua turns 55 this year - my son will enter CHS in a week's time, and I hope he may be blessed to be part of her final cohort of Chinese Language and Chinese Literature students before she retires in 5-6 years' time. Looks like she also coaches the CHS Chinese Language Debating Team (who have been winning quite a number of the National Chinese Debating competitions, even beating the Chinese Independent High Schools!).
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Chinese literature is offered to all students across 14 classes starting from Form 4, both arts or science stream. Something unique about CHS is that all science students must take all 3 sciences and add maths, there are no "sub-science" class.

Yes indeed, our debate team frequently travels overseas for international competitions. Your son may join the debate club if he is keen on giving it a go.

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions, I'm happy to help.
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post Mar 11 2023, 06:20 PM

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Back in around 2000s, I used to know a few kids who were sent to private schools. Their parents were so proud to say "my child doesn't speak Chinese, he only understands English". And I was like "you are proud of him for being monolingual?".
And whaddya know, these people have started learning Chinese now.
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post Mar 13 2023, 06:57 AM

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When comes to kids, all parents wants the best and follow the trend to be competitive.
International school are one of those trends.

Personally, International school are meant for Foreigners who travels/migrates.
Not sure how these schools became a Trend

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post Mar 13 2023, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(trojandude @ Mar 11 2023, 01:05 AM)
Oh god this literally reminded me of my childhood.

I've had teachers back in SMK who literally refused to teach. REFUSED. He would literally come in and say "sakit kepala" la "sakit perut" and bullshit and say today "buat kerja sendiri" or "rilek".

The teacher would then promote his/her own tuition classes and say if want to "truly" learn, come to the tuition.

People really have no idea how messed up our SK/SMK is. Malays who insistently want Chinese to attend SK/SMK turn a blind eye to the absolutely shit schools we have. The Chinese reject SK/SMK because the schools are FULL OF SHIT.

I'm sorry but non-folks here, please never make the mistake of sending your kids to SK/SMK because chances are they're shit. Malays themselves especially the good ones get handpicked to attend MARA, while the richer ones send their kids to international schools. These should tell you a lot.
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Good write up, this is also main reasons I send my kids to private school. SK is dominated also by malay and no longer multi racial. My son earlier was in SK and he is 1 of 2 Chinese student in the class. Also didn’t like how during assembly and etc got prayers before starting.

At least in private school is more open, teachers are better qualified and they really do teach, multi racial mixed students and much better facilities too
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post Mar 13 2023, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(mezanny @ May 17 2022, 02:23 PM)
a lot of my kolik now send their kids to international school, 7yo already started.

dunno why not even want to send to SRJK.

some even use a lot of their salary to pay for their kids school fees.

why they do this ? to prepare them to migrate ?

but international education help in their application for PR ?
If let say fail to get PR, then stuck here, BM not so good, mandarin also dunno, become banana. Spend so much but ROI so low because RM low.
so they have to target places like australia, uk, usa, canada.
Spore also can, but i notice many people migrate to Spore not want to get married and even not want to have kids.

do you do the same ? send ur kids to international school ?
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Correction: KL/Selangor parents. The demographic is too low to statistically label them under "malaysian parent"

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post Mar 13 2023, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ Mar 10 2023, 04:13 PM)
Due to crazy competition to be the very best!
Even my time my teachers admitted they put close to 0 effort at school so can save energy for their tuition classes since they can make so much more money there. Excuse is the students hopeless and won't listen.

Quite disgusting imo but our system created this issue and keeps encouraging it.
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Even in International Schools or shoplot ones some of the teachers don’t really put effort on classroom teaching, more on tuition. The teachers don’t really want to spend their time with the students, just teach and go.
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post Mar 13 2023, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Mar 10 2023, 10:19 PM)
huh really?

like even if that person graduates from a reputable uni , they still dig his history of sec school?
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tendency to do so.

Not unless if you're from SMK, then suddenly you are an engineer degree holder from Oxford.

It helps a lot if your secondary education is australian based

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