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TSplumberly
post May 15 2022, 09:46 AM, updated 4y ago

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AMD CPU comes in with a box and without a box (in plastic casing).

Only the one in box is original?

How to tell if it is original?

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post May 15 2022, 09:57 AM

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there is no fake CPU


only AMD able to produce AMD cpu...


how to tell?
can boot?
can run windows?

it is original ......
TSplumberly
post May 15 2022, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 15 2022, 09:57 AM)
there is no fake CPU
only AMD able to produce AMD cpu...
how to tell?
can boot?
can run windows?

it is original ......
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Thanks.

Just read that the ones in plastic casings are tray processors, i.e., used for Dell, Acer etc for them to install into their PCs, laptops.

Maybe someone managed to get some of these for retail. Tray ones are about RM50 cheaper.
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post May 15 2022, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ May 15 2022, 09:46 AM)
AMD CPU comes in with a box and without a box (in plastic casing).

Only the one in box is original?

How to tell if it is original?
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Those are bulk packages (also called tray). No official warranty. The seller or supplier have to bear with the warranty.
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post May 15 2022, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ May 15 2022, 10:07 AM)
Thanks.

Just read that the ones in plastic casings are tray processors, i.e., used for Dell, Acer etc for them to install into their PCs, laptops.

Maybe someone managed to get some of these for retail. Tray ones are about RM50 cheaper.
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RM50 cheaper without official warranty. I feel not worth it.
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post May 16 2022, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 15 2022, 09:57 AM)
there is no fake CPU
only AMD able to produce AMD cpu...
how to tell?
can boot?
can run windows?

it is original ......
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Note that fake Ryzen CPUs do exist, usually with a swapped integrated heatspreader icon_idea.gif
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post May 16 2022, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 15 2022, 11:00 AM)
Those are bulk packages (also called tray). No official warranty. The seller or supplier have to bear with the warranty.
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No bundled cooler too icon_idea.gif
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post May 16 2022, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ May 15 2022, 10:07 AM)
Thanks.

Just read that the ones in plastic casings are tray processors, i.e., used for Dell, Acer etc for them to install into their PCs, laptops.

Maybe someone managed to get some of these for retail. Tray ones are about RM50 cheaper.
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Those are meant for system integrators and OEMs, but they are pretty much identical to retail chips (similar performance and reliability), only without the packaging and the bundled cooler icon_idea.gif

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post May 19 2022, 08:27 AM

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There is no AMD or Intel fake processor. Different market the heatsink and fan even different. The same model of processor from the same factory come out, they pack a bit different for the different market they going to ship to. You can go China and get one Intel or AMD processor and then you compare it with our Malaysia's Intel or AMD processor. The heatsink and fan is totally different from us.

Another example, original iPhone for global and China market they got even different spec for same model.

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post May 19 2022, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ May 15 2022, 09:46 AM)
AMD CPU comes in with a box and without a box (in plastic casing).

Only the one in box is original?

How to tell if it is original?
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Like others said, there is no fake CPU.

Those CPUs in gift box package are meant for end customer direct purchase. System builders like Dell, HP, Lenovo or any small ones purchase CPU in bulk. It is cheaper for them. Those CPU are still under warranty but it through the system builder. You cannot go direct to Intel or AMD.

So, you should ask if anything wrong with the CPU, can you get warranty from the seller or not. This is to avoid black market CPUs.

Ooo... found statement. Here it is
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/warranty-information/oem


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post May 19 2022, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(JonathanHanYT @ May 19 2022, 08:27 AM)
There is no AMD or Intel fake processor. Different market the heatsink and fan even different. The same model of processor from the same factory come out, they pack a bit different for the different market they going to ship to. You can go China and get one Intel or AMD processor and then you compare it with our Malaysia's Intel or AMD processor. The heatsink and fan is totally different from us.

Another example, original iPhone for global and China market they got even different spec for same model.

***  To make it even more confusing, even the same brand model, the international vs china version, can be quite different. Initially, I thought only the user interface side, in Chinese vs English. One floor vacuum robot has a higher vacuum pressure for the China version than the international version.

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post May 19 2022, 02:06 PM

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If the processor only pack in transparent plastic sealed box, usually it is for OEM. Transparent plastic sealed box with hard cardboard type of cover wrap around it, that one is retail packing.
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post Jun 26 2022, 11:36 AM

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Most probably OEM or used then.
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post Jun 28 2022, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ May 15 2022, 10:07 AM)
Thanks.

Just read that the ones in plastic casings are tray processors, i.e., used for Dell, Acer etc for them to install into their PCs, laptops.

Maybe someone managed to get some of these for retail. Tray ones are about RM50 cheaper.
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Not neccessary. I found in Lowyat 2 shops selling at roughly same price, one no stock cooler and box, while the other came with stock cooler and box. The seller with no stock cooler made some BS story.
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QUOTE(c128 @ Jun 28 2022, 04:09 PM)
Not neccessary. I found in Lowyat 2 shops selling at roughly same price, one no stock cooler and box, while the other came with stock cooler and box. The seller with no stock cooler made some BS story.
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I think whether it has a stock cooler will depend on the CPU model. Some got and some dont. Read that the higher end CPU dont come with stock cooler as this cooler will not be enough and user will buy their own more powerful cooler.

I bought AMD 5900K without a box. It is running AOK, in fact much better than my many Intel CPUs. For Intel die-hard fans, please dont come back and scream at me till the sun dies. Ha.

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jun 28 2022, 05:05 PM)
I think whether it has a stock cooler will depend on the CPU model. Some got and some dont. Read that the higher end CPU dont come with stock cooler as this cooler will not be enough and user will buy their own more powerful cooler.

I bought AMD 5900K without a box. It is running AOK, in fact much better than my many Intel CPUs. For Intel die-hard fans, please dont come back and scream at me till the sun dies. Ha.
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Nope same AMD 5600X. One give kelentong story same like yours. Stock cooler is fine if no OC. I bought the one with the cooler.
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post Jul 13 2022, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ May 15 2022, 09:46 AM)
AMD CPU comes in with a box and without a box (in plastic casing).

Only the one in box is original?

How to tell if it is original?
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where you buy ? cpu no fake de, only got used or new XD
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post Jul 14 2022, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(fiishy @ Jul 13 2022, 03:55 PM)
where you buy ? cpu no fake de, only got used or new XD
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post Jul 14 2022, 09:55 AM

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There ARE so called "fake" CPU in the markets

the scammer will usually delid the CPUs, swap the IHS of the old one with a new one, for example a CPU IHS there stated it's a 5950X, but it might be just a 1200 underneath, you wouldn't know until you've booted it up

But fake delided CPU for AMD is pretty rare compared to Intel as AMD soldered their IHS, making it extremely difficult to delid
Another method the scammers used for AMD CPU is sanding off the labels on the IHS, and print a fake label as higher spec CPU


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post Jul 15 2022, 09:03 AM

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wow so there is really a fake cpu... crazy now days !

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