Deswai dashcam is important yooo

Dont care...the POINT is are at the corner, n u cant anticipate what in front of u. Ur visibility already affected. U know u cant see what in front, still mau speeding? 50 km/hr at corner is speedlah

Lain cerita if u are in straight road, where u can see everything in front of u

This scenario also applied in hilly road, where ur visitbility already affected n cant see whats will be in front of u

Do u know how many broken car that parked beside the road kena hit? All because no anticipation

Gotcha.  Did you read the judgement and the officers in verbatim clarification.  No right.  Too malas right.

Here do practice what you preach and do not be a muppet hypocrite ok.

“Stop making this personal and getting butthurt about something not related to you or within your control.

Fuckin get a life …”

Some of the reader still dont get my point

As a driver, we DONT WAIT until danger comes to us
But we must anticipate possible danger n do preventive measures

When u wait for danger to be identified, most of the time u have no time to do some preventive measures

Still presumptive.
I bet you yourself didn't plow through the transcript as thorough as the lady plowing through 30 kids and bikes, killing 8.
Tengok screen shot from the Twitter post only issit?
Yep. Thought so.

What for going through the details of the proceedings transcript when the summary is sufficient enough.
Yes I've read the judgement and clarifications.

But it doesn't matter now. The high court got it right this time around.

Btw. We are all in this casual corner of an asian tech forum on a Friday night, arguing over a done case.
While i admit i don't have much life, i hope you would atleast not be a hypocrite yourself and "fucking get a life".

Corner? Looks like straight road to me.

I think you misinterpreted what the judge meant by "keadaan jalan yang berselekoh dan berbukit sedikit".

Don't think the driver hit the victims at a corner lmao, plus the speed test wasn't calculated at the corner pun.

Still presumptive.
I bet you yourself didn't plow through the transcript as thorough as the lady plowing through 30 kids and bikes, killing 8.
Tengok screen shot from the Twitter post only issit?
Yep. Thought so.

What for going through the details of the proceedings transcript when the summary is sufficient enough.
Yes I've read the judgement and clarifications.

But it doesn't matter now. The high court got it right this time around.

Btw. We are all in this casual corner of an asian tech forum on a Friday night, arguing over a done case.
While i admit i don't have much life, i hope you would atleast not be a hypocrite yourself and "fucking get a life".

so why accident happened?

can anticipate kid throwing rock at your wind shield?

can you anticipate scaffolding collapsed and crash onto your car?

so why accident happened?

can anticipate kid throwing rock at your wind shield?

can you anticipate scaffolding collapsed and crash onto your car?

U pick up different context maa...

Ur context is about something outside from the road suddenly flying into the road. No one can anticipate like that lah 
This is about anticipitating what LIES ahead you on the road, esp at corner where u cant see or hilly area

Because the other road users didn't anticipate.
When you drive defensively, you did your part in reducing risk of accident.
The risk would have been further reduced to nill if both the lady had been more aware and drove better, and the kids actually have a brain.

Imagine the kids were a stranded trailer by the roadside but didn't put down cones or increase visibility around the corner in anticipation of any incoming vehicles.
It would have been a clerk dead for crashing into the back of a trailer instead and we would have a very different kind of discussion.

Regardless, tak kesah, but it does not matter now ,,,  how can you be so sure HC got it right when full judgement of HC not out yet. 

Gotcha again.

Ok just friendly reminder in your own words “Stop making this personal and getting butthurt about something not related to you or within your control.”

Ah so instead of actually discussing about the case, you just want to nitpick my choice of words.
Basically, you have nothing of value to bring into the discussion.

Oh well, until you have learn how to participate in a discussion like a well adjusted adult, I'm done with you.

Because the other road users didn't anticipate.
When you drive defensively, you did your part in reducing risk of accident.
The risk would have been further reduced to nill if both the lady had been more aware and drove better, and the kids actually have a brain.

Imagine the kids were a stranded trailer by the roadside but didn't put down cones or increase visibility around the corner in anticipation of any incoming vehicles.
It would have been a clerk dead for crashing into the back of a trailer instead and we would have a very different kind of discussion.

It just shows the court was so fixated to the speed of travel and the visibility (or non visibility) of/from the lady's car.
Forgetting the fact that 8 kids died from the supposed "low speed" impact.

And the high court got it right.

Here i try to understand the basis of reasoning from the judge on why the judge decided that unfortunate driver is guilty
Several key point i want to highlighted from the report i read

"... makhamah bicara terkhilaf apabila menerima pembelaan Responden yang tidak mengetahui adanya aktiviti basikal lajak pada malam kejadian sebagai alasan untuk memandu keretanya secara merbahaya sehingga mengorbankan mangsa yang dinyatakan dalam pertuduhan. Responden seharusnya  memandu kereta dengan lebih berhati - hati dan bukannya memandu dengan laju sehingga menyebabkan kemalangan tersebut."

"...Responden yang memandu keretanya secara merbahaya mengambil kira keadaan jalan yang berselekohj dan berbukit sedikit"

In my personal opinon, i think what the judge trying to highlight, as a good driver, we must anticipate any possible danger . So whenever we encounter a location that has potential danger like reduce our visibility, down the hill, crowded place, and so we must able to take necessary step to reduce the risk.
For example if we goes into school area, we must reduce our car speed, in anticipating possible danger that kid will run across the road from no where. We cant just say, eh aku tak nampak ada budak lari" 

A dangerous driving will be like, even u know u are in school area, u continue to speed and somehow hit a kid. This is what considered a dangerous driving. Because u fail to anticipate n do what necessary. Same thinglah if  u drive during raining too

In this case, obviously the driver not only she was approaching a dangerous location. She goes down hill and approaching the corner and its dark. A good driver usually able to anticipate the risk of danger n reduce the speed,. Unfortunately, in this case, there is no preventive measure taken during this risk location. For this the judge said " Responden seharusnya  memandu kereta dengan lebih berhati - hati dan bukannya memandu dengan laju sehingga menyebabkan kemalangan tersebut. " (esp in the hilly area, at the corner and dark location)
The presence of the boys on the road is also wrong. But does it change anything if we replace the boys with ordinarly motorcycle, ordinary pedestrian, or romobongan orang? or TNB replace bulp There is no law saying that these people cant be presence on the road or the corner of highway. So a responsible driver must always able to anticipate dangerous location n do what is necessary , whatever preventive measure to prevent accident. This is in my personal opinion, the basis of the judge reasoning on the case (or course tambah dengan statement inconsistentcies like tiba2 ada new version of another car hit the kid)

lol so basically high court concluded she drove dangerously simply because she failed to drive EVEN MORE carefully than careful, and should have anticipated risks behind the slope in the HIGHWAY. Bagus bagus, great judgement     

Some of the reader still dont get my point

As a driver, we DONT WAIT until danger comes to us
But we must anticipate possible danger n do preventive measures

When u wait for danger to be identified, most of the time u have no time to do some preventive measures