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post Apr 14 2022, 10:12 AM, updated 4y ago

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I have always had plaster ceilings. But don't know whether it's due to the wind or humidity or whatsoever, i live in Condo, very very high floor. They will crack, so have to fix it. There's another room, the edges of the plaster ceiling (those edges with designs) actually fell off. Luckily no one was there when it fell off.

Are there any other alternatives to plaster ceilings that actually last long? And quite as pretty as plaster ceiling too? Or we actually need to replace it or they can just do a simple restorations? Restorations would be better, i assume that it's not as messy as replacing the ceiling cause need to move all the furniture as well!!!

Since i might be doing some simple renovation soon. Is it going to be extremely dusty fixing the ceilings? We are still going to be in the house.

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post Apr 14 2022, 10:22 AM

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Eager to know this too. Plaster ceiling is bad for health too. The powder is actually hazardous.

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post Apr 14 2022, 10:28 AM

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i have a glass black transparent table. If i leave the house for 1 week, I can see white things on that table. It is not dust because u can tell the difference between dust and tiny particles. It's from the plaster ceiling.
Normally we cant see it on the floor or on our things because so nobody notices it as it is so fine. Everyday i think we are breathing in those tiny particles.
Would like to know too if there are alternatives for future house.

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post Apr 14 2022, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Apr 14 2022, 10:22 AM)
Eager to know this too. Plaster ceiling is bad for health too. The powder is actually hazardous.
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Not all hazardous. Not sure regulation in Malaysia though. All toxic materials were removed from the plaster as far as I know.
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post Apr 14 2022, 10:58 AM

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The main reason I hate plaster type ceiling is that it is very fragile. If roof leak, the water drip will make a hole easily.

Some people just use plywood with no gap and then put plaster to make it like single piece like plaster ceiling which is more robust. The problem is weight, but compare to old asbestos ceiling it is not much different.

Nowadays there are PVC ceiling which can be installed faster and no need to paint. I gave you one example. You can Google

https://www.pvcceiling.com.my/
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post Apr 14 2022, 11:06 AM

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you can remove all. it will make your room look bigger. just need to rewire or install casing for wire if the wire is not concealed.

just go for a modern look.
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post Apr 14 2022, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Apr 14 2022, 10:12 AM)
I have always had plaster ceilings. But don't know whether it's due to the wind or humidity or whatsoever, i live in Condo, very very high floor. They will crack, so have to fix it. There's another room, the edges of the plaster ceiling (those edges with designs) actually fell off. Luckily no one was there when it fell off.

Are there any other alternatives to plaster ceilings that actually last long? And quite as pretty as plaster ceiling too? Or we actually need to replace it or they can just do a simple restorations? Restorations would be better, i assume that it's not as messy as replacing the ceiling cause need to move all the furniture as well!!!

Since i might be doing some simple renovation soon. Is it going to be extremely dusty fixing the ceilings? We are still going to be in the house.
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My developer did a skim coating on the ground floor concrete ceiling to look similar to plaster ceiling.
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post Apr 14 2022, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Apr 14 2022, 10:12 AM)
I have always had plaster ceilings. But don't know whether it's due to the wind or humidity or whatsoever, i live in Condo, very very high floor. They will crack, so have to fix it. There's another room, the edges of the plaster ceiling (those edges with designs) actually fell off. Luckily no one was there when it fell off.

Are there any other alternatives to plaster ceilings that actually last long? And quite as pretty as plaster ceiling too? Or we actually need to replace it or they can just do a simple restorations? Restorations would be better, i assume that it's not as messy as replacing the ceiling cause need to move all the furniture as well!!!

Since i might be doing some simple renovation soon. Is it going to be extremely dusty fixing the ceilings? We are still going to be in the house.
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Plywood ceiling.

You can use the same mounting brackets as plaster ceiling.

Some months back I visited a showhouse where the plaster ceiling was a wall paper. Definitely looked nice.

Personally prefer no plaster ceiling as I've found that it affects my sinus.
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post Apr 14 2022, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(R231_SL65_AMG @ Apr 14 2022, 05:32 PM)
Plywood ceiling.

You can use the same mounting brackets as plaster ceiling.

Some months back I visited a showhouse where the plaster ceiling was a wall paper. Definitely looked nice.

Personally prefer no plaster ceiling as I've found that it affects my sinus.
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is plywood heavy?
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post Apr 14 2022, 07:45 PM

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Would like to know as well. Is there any alternatives other than plaster ceilings if I would like to go for edge downlight designs like this?

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post Apr 14 2022, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Apr 14 2022, 06:56 PM)
is plywood heavy?
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Plywood is heavier than plaster board.

The reason why most plaster ceiling crack is because of insufficient support frame and or movement of the building structure.

Cornice drop off is because of uneven wall plastering.

Otherwise most plaster ceiling will last a long time.

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post Apr 14 2022, 09:51 PM

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Get better quality thicker plasterboard.. they come in a few thicknesses
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post Apr 14 2022, 11:07 PM

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Wood ceiling or aluminium ceiling
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post Apr 15 2022, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Apr 14 2022, 06:56 PM)
is plywood heavy?
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Plywood comes in several thickness.

3mm, 5mm and so on.

The 3mm is lighter than a medium thickness plasterboard.


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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 14 2022, 07:45 PM)
Would like to know as well. Is there any alternatives other than plaster ceilings if I would like to go for edge downlight designs like this?

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Can be done using timber or plywood.

Also can be done using aluminum composite boards.
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post Apr 15 2022, 04:54 PM

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I think all about costs. Plaster ceiling is still cheapest material if want a flush and flat ceiling. Plywood needs carpenter, more difficult to install and if laminate, will clearly see joint line.
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post Apr 15 2022, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(Minolta @ Apr 15 2022, 04:54 PM)
I think all about costs. Plaster ceiling is still cheapest material if want a flush and flat ceiling. Plywood needs carpenter, more difficult to install and if laminate, will clearly see joint line.
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Yes, you are right. It all boils down to cost by the end of the day. An option to the conventional fibrous plaster ceiling, plasterboard has been around for donkey years. Unlike fibrous plaster ceiling with exposed core (thus explaining the fine gypsum particles that is easily noticeable once landed on dark surfaces), Malaysia has an alternative for a very long time that is known as plasterboard, produced by reputable companies like Saint Gobain and USG Boral. There are also some local manufacturers who go head to head with these international conglomerates in producing plasterboard.

Majority of Malaysian would go for fibrous plaster ceiling and forgo health once they knew the price difference between the 2 options. Little does everyone knows that among these countries, Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand, only Malaysia is still using the hazardous fibrous plaster ceiling.
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post Apr 15 2022, 09:15 PM

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I dont bothet with plaster cieling in condo. Mg condo looks bigger due to higher depth so ya its good

Cheap clean and neat. I just use thick paint coat to flathen and smothen the surface
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post Apr 16 2022, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(Roadwarrior1337 @ Apr 15 2022, 09:15 PM)
I dont bothet with plaster cieling in condo. Mg condo looks bigger due to higher depth so ya its good

Cheap clean and neat. I just use thick paint coat to flathen and smothen the surface
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If you have a well skimmed soffit, happy with the power socket counts and not really into downlights, yes.
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post Apr 16 2022, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(paintmyhaus @ Apr 16 2022, 06:13 PM)
If you have a well skimmed soffit, happy with the power socket counts and not really into downlights, yes.
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I only one one phillip downlight. Got casing itu macam

The rest if lights in my living room and bed rooom use the bar with power strip and add on my downlight as many as i want macam cafe type la


Looks elegant. The sole primary reason why i never put plaster cieling in condo is to see if any cracks on the cieling or water leakage. If water leak then hailat … i wont be able to see the water leakage until it has shown on the plaster cieling which is too late and will definitely need to replace the plaster cieling due to the green moss may never die
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post Apr 17 2022, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(Roadwarrior1337 @ Apr 16 2022, 06:50 PM)
I only one one phillip downlight. Got casing itu macam

The rest if lights in my living room and bed rooom use the bar with power strip and add on my downlight as many as i want macam cafe type la
Looks elegant. The sole primary reason why i never put plaster cieling in condo is to see if any cracks on the cieling or water leakage. If water leak then hailat … i wont be able to see the water leakage until it has shown on the plaster cieling which is too late and will definitely need to replace the plaster cieling due to the green moss may never die
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do you mind sharing the picture how it looks like? i am considering not to have plaster ceiling as well
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post Apr 17 2022, 01:03 PM

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If money no problems, can try timber ceiling using floorboards. I used those b4 for some of my clients. Already more than 15 years and still going strong.

If water leakage, easy to spot as the floorboards will delaminated. So far touch wood, no leaks. Electricians will get pissed off though because it will take them a long time to cut open the holes for lights and reroute the wirings.
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post Apr 26 2022, 10:36 AM

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Actually crack like this, need to replace the whole ceiling or not? Or can just repair it? mini orchard ceo684

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post Apr 26 2022, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Apr 26 2022, 10:36 AM)
Actually crack like this, need to replace the whole ceiling or not? Or can just repair it? mini orchard ceo684

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This is small rectification work.

Strengthen the ceiling footing and replaster the crack. If just replastering, the crack will reappear. I did that for my kitchen. Engage a proper guy to do it.
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Apr 26 2022, 12:17 PM)
This is small rectification work.

Strengthen the ceiling footing and replaster the crack. If just replastering, the crack will reappear. I did that for my kitchen. Engage a proper guy to do it.
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got any good contact? wanna do other small repairs also.
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post Apr 26 2022, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Apr 26 2022, 01:27 PM)
got any good contact? wanna do other small repairs also.
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Sori, no contact. I did my repair few years back.
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Apr 26 2022, 10:36 AM)
Actually crack like this, need to replace the whole ceiling or not? Or can just repair it? mini orchard ceo684

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It can be repaired but I'd look into reinforcing with more brackets as well.

Else you repair here today and day after tomorrow a new crack will happen.

 

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