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bezza clutch pad, gear oil, labour
bezza clutch pad, gear oil, labour
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Apr 11 2022, 04:19 PM, updated 4y ago
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Perodua service in old klang road 700 plus
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Apr 11 2022, 04:20 PM
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Stop reading at bezza
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Apr 11 2022, 04:20 PM
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1st service?
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Apr 11 2022, 04:20 PM
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Clutch is difficult to replace So consider ok la ayanami_tard liked this post
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Apr 11 2022, 04:20 PM
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clutch pad? car mileage how much?
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Apr 11 2022, 04:21 PM
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Seems expensive
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Apr 11 2022, 04:21 PM
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went for 3rd party after 2 routine services with them
harga yahoodee some more wait like sohem |
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Apr 11 2022, 04:21 PM
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replace it at SC, guarantee more expensive
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Apr 11 2022, 04:23 PM
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Alza 4 absorber + all arm bushings how much to replace? |
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Apr 11 2022, 04:23 PM
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wats your mileage?
normally manual car clutch plate last very long. |
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Apr 11 2022, 04:24 PM
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Apr 11 2022, 04:30 PM
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PERODUA SC charge 3 kali lebih mahal
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Apr 11 2022, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(blek @ Apr 11 2022, 04:23 PM) lazada/shoppe can ada......anyway, my P1 buy one set asoba around RM600 for non kayabar brand. as long as not asking for magic, wont cost more than RM1k bushings etc. really depends on how much you change. individually, they are very cheap at around RM50 one set (L+R). however, really need to know how many you are changing |
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Apr 11 2022, 04:35 PM
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if u have to ask
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Apr 11 2022, 04:41 PM
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New clutch plate is max $270 oni.
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Apr 11 2022, 04:49 PM
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change clutch set + labour around 300-400 only
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Apr 11 2022, 04:50 PM
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if still got warranty, perodua lor
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Apr 11 2022, 04:53 PM
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go to spare part shop, buy all the needed parts.
Find a reliable mechanic. You will only pay for workmanship, Pros: Cheaper Cons: u dunno how 'original' the part is. and also if the mechanic is reliable. SC service - Guaranteed original parts Cons: Expensive. Take your pick |
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Apr 11 2022, 04:54 PM
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Apr 11 2022, 04:58 PM
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expensive but reasonable I guess for the amount of work. drain oil, drop trans, replace clutch, install everything back and check for leak and function. At least, SC guarantee original & torque spec correct. I rarely see any normal workshop will use torque wrench. This post has been edited by AssToast: Apr 11 2022, 04:59 PM ayanami_tard liked this post
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Apr 11 2022, 04:58 PM
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need to angkat engine or not?
if yes, probably its around that price. |
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Apr 11 2022, 05:03 PM
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your odo brp?why need to change the clutch pad?wtf is clutch pad?same as clutch plate?
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Apr 11 2022, 05:04 PM
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Not sure if bezza got space for mech to do job without dropping/taking out the gearbox or not. Assuming it doesn't have enough space,
exedy clutch kit + bearing + rear seal (dunno ori p2 or not)= <>250 labour to drop/pasang gearbox 250-300 see..... cost already rm500-550 and this is excluding the fluids and driveshaft seals. Maybe the SC figure is relatively cheap afterall. |
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Apr 11 2022, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(Bossku_Johor @ Apr 11 2022, 04:53 PM) go to spare part shop, buy all the needed parts. exedy clutch good enough.Find a reliable mechanic. You will only pay for workmanship, Pros: Cheaper Cons: u dunno how 'original' the part is. and also if the mechanic is reliable. SC service - Guaranteed original parts Cons: Expensive. Take your pick i dont know if people can get original one anymore from manufacturer. i know toyota support up to 10 years. |
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Apr 11 2022, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Apr 11 2022, 05:04 PM) Uh what? Replace clutch always have to drop gearbox since the clutch is housed inside the gearbox. Unless you mean drop/take out the whole engine, thatβs usually not necessary.This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Apr 11 2022, 05:07 PM |
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Apr 11 2022, 05:09 PM
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got do the engine rear main oil seal or not 6942nole liked this post
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Apr 11 2022, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 11 2022, 05:07 PM) Uh what? Replace clutch always have to drop gearbox since the clutch is housed inside the gearbox. Unless you mean drop/take out the whole engine, thatβs usually not necessary. not necessarilya few factor at play here 1. models of cars...not every cars need to drop the GB...some are easier to work with than others 2. mechanic's skill |
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Apr 11 2022, 06:02 PM
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clutch pad? how bad did you abuse the car? after reverse straight into second gear is it?
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Apr 11 2022, 06:10 PM
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Apr 11 2022, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(Bossku_Johor @ Apr 11 2022, 04:53 PM) go to spare part shop, buy all the needed parts. U forgot one important thing. Find a reliable mechanic. You will only pay for workmanship, Pros: Cheaper Cons: u dunno how 'original' the part is. and also if the mechanic is reliable. SC service - Guaranteed original parts Cons: Expensive. Take your pick After pasang if it is not satisfactory, mech blame the goods while the seller blame the mechanic fix wrong. Last last need double pay workmanship + buy 2 set of new parts. This post has been edited by Balanced: Apr 11 2022, 06:14 PM Bossku_Johor liked this post
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Apr 11 2022, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Apr 11 2022, 04:33 PM) lazada/shoppe can ada...... My foreman quote me around 2k for 4pc absorber with top mountings bushanyway, my P1 buy one set asoba around RM600 for non kayabar brand. as long as not asking for magic, wont cost more than RM1k bushings etc. really depends on how much you change. individually, they are very cheap at around RM50 one set (L+R). however, really need to know how many you are changing |
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Apr 11 2022, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(blek @ Apr 11 2022, 06:51 PM) 2k Tukar sekali arm Susah Just search for kayabar absorber and use those prices as guide. I also almost got conned by "family pren" foreman before, asking for rm800 for front absorber only....... I ended up going to another foreman rm800 trw front and back. Ownself buy, rm500 can get 4 wheels This post has been edited by EBBattlefield: Apr 11 2022, 07:01 PM |
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Apr 11 2022, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Apr 11 2022, 04:41 PM) But nobody just change the clutch plate. People will buy a clutch kit including the cover assembly, clutch disc and release bearing . Newer cars better do together with clutch master/slave cylinder or you can call this clutch pump set because the slave cylinder sit inside the transmission bell housing.This post has been edited by k!nex: Apr 11 2022, 07:09 PM |
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Apr 11 2022, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE(H3artBreakKid @ Apr 11 2022, 04:21 PM) I don't know price ok or not, but wait time still ok lar. Send there to check less than half hour, then order parts wait 2 week. Today morning repair and 4pm get car back. |
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Apr 11 2022, 07:30 PM
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Apr 11 2022, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(AssToast @ Apr 11 2022, 04:58 PM) expensive but reasonable I guess for the amount of work. drain oil, drop trans, replace clutch, install everything back and check for leak and function. Yeah, I guess ok for peace of mind.At least, SC guarantee original & torque spec correct. I rarely see any normal workshop will use torque wrench. |
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Apr 11 2022, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Apr 11 2022, 05:04 PM) Not sure if bezza got space for mech to do job without dropping/taking out the gearbox or not. Assuming it doesn't have enough space, True, better don't cheap out on service.exedy clutch kit + bearing + rear seal (dunno ori p2 or not)= <>250 labour to drop/pasang gearbox 250-300 see..... cost already rm500-550 and this is excluding the fluids and driveshaft seals. Maybe the SC figure is relatively cheap afterall. |
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Apr 11 2022, 07:35 PM
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Apr 11 2022, 07:38 PM
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Apr 11 2022, 07:41 PM
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Apr 11 2022, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Apr 11 2022, 06:10 PM) All arm bushings ah. Per arm got 3. 2 arms at front. Each biji rm70-90. Rear im not sure. Absorber link rm100-150 per batang. So kira kira around 2k kot. Dont quote me tho.. QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Apr 11 2022, 07:00 PM) 2k Tukar sekali arm Susah let say the parts absorber rm600 for front and rear, all bush rm160, how much would the labour charges for installation?Just search for kayabar absorber and use those prices as guide. I also almost got conned by "family pren" foreman before, asking for rm800 for front absorber only....... I ended up going to another foreman rm800 trw front and back. Ownself buy, rm500 can get 4 wheels i search online some parts, lower arm come with bush and link, so complicated |
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Apr 11 2022, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(blek @ Apr 11 2022, 10:33 PM) let say the parts absorber rm600 for front and rear, all bush rm160, how much would the labour charges for installation? If you bring own parts, installation higher a bit.i search online some parts, lower arm come with bush and link, so complicated Probably still around rm40-50 per bush, front back absorbers rm150 |
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Apr 11 2022, 10:48 PM
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Apr 11 2022, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 11 2022, 05:07 PM) Uh what? Replace clutch always have to drop gearbox since the clutch is housed inside the gearbox. Unless you mean drop/take out the whole engine, thatβs usually not necessary. Depend on the car but I'm not familiar with the bezza.Narrower cars often does not have enough clearance between the frame rails to slide the gearbox input shaft far enough to drop the gearbox. If that was the case the engine needs to be hoisted out or the entire K subframe and engine needs to be dropped. I've worked on many cars that you can't get the gearbox without dropping the engine, even automatic ones. If that was the case, 700 don't seem like a rip off price considering all original parts and fresh fluids. Also usually on high mileage cars (clutches usually last a long time in such a light and low powered car, unless the driver don't know how to drive a manual), the gearbox driveshaft seals and rear engine seal would be replaced at the same time, and the flywheel resurfaced..... diffyhelman2 liked this post
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Apr 11 2022, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Apr 11 2022, 11:03 PM) Depend on the car but I'm not familiar with the bezza. I have the workshop manual, bezza 1L can takeout the whole gearbox (auto and manual) without taking out the engine, usual process disconnect CV joint, ball joint, exhaust manifold, one engine mount and transmission mount Narrower cars often does not have enough clearance between the frame rails to slide the gearbox input shaft far enough to drop the gearbox. If that was the case the engine needs to be hoisted out or the entire K subframe and engine needs to be dropped. I've worked on many cars that you can't get the gearbox without dropping the engine, even automatic ones. If that was the case, 700 don't seem like a rip off price considering all original parts and fresh fluids. Also usually on high mileage cars (clutches usually last a long time in such a light and low powered car, unless the driver don't know how to drive a manual), the gearbox driveshaft seals and rear engine seal would be replaced at the same time, and the flywheel resurfaced..... and out it comes. those cars that cant take out the gearbox without the engine together, are they usually conti cars? This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Apr 11 2022, 11:26 PM |
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Apr 11 2022, 11:26 PM
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Apr 11 2022, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 11 2022, 11:19 PM) I have the workshop manual, bezza 1L can takeout the whole gearbox (auto and manual) without taking out the engine, usual process disconnect CV joint, ball joint, exhaust manifold, one engine mount and transmission mount Yes. Most conti fwd cars.and out it comes. those cars that cant take out the gearbox without the engine together, are they usually conti cars? The worst are the inline 6 on the Volvo S80T6. Typical asinine ford fwd design, where the ford gearbox is L shaped, wrapping to the back of the engine. Some manuals on ford inline 5s are also difficult to work on. Most other Germans have longitudinal engines so the gearboxes are not a problem. But even Japanese cars with V6 will need to drop the engine mounts and K frame so you can angle the engine downward enough to slide the gearbox out. Honda's typically the case. Need to drop the subframe. |
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Apr 11 2022, 06:13 PM) U forgot one important thing. yah...true also...always like that one....in the end we have to spend more to fix it.....After pasang if it is not satisfactory, mech blame the goods while the seller blame the mechanic fix wrong. Last last need double pay workmanship + buy 2 set of new parts. unless you can find a reliable seller and mechanic |
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