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imin
post Apr 11 2022, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(irenic @ Apr 10 2022, 11:41 AM)
RR said he has to adjust to the players we have. lol. that's why same shit. I hope the next manager will be more ruthless. stick to the style he think can win the game and dont give face to these primadonas.
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to do this, the next manager will need a board that will back the manager more than the players.. because currently it seems the board will happily back the players more than the manager..

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post Apr 11 2022, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 11 2022, 02:38 PM)
i feel under ole we wont be relegated, but will bcum long term mid table team... lol... as for the board will accept or not, hopefully our coming manager candidates can fight harder... we keep on keep all those prima donnas for their commercial value but no value in matches... full of high salary players throughout our first team... and none of them able to do shit... except maybe de gea...
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not sure... he got 1/11 right already... if he get 2 more maguire player.. can see relegation for real biggrin.gif
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post Apr 11 2022, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 11 2022, 03:09 PM)
not sure... he got 1/11 right already... if he get 2 more maguire player.. can see relegation for real  biggrin.gif
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lol i wish to see, is it coming manager also will put maguire as the captain and all time first 11 player... maybe he reli did something in training that we cant see... lol
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post Apr 11 2022, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 11 2022, 03:28 PM)
lol i wish to see, is it coming manager also will put maguire as the captain and all time first 11 player... maybe he reli did something in training that we cant see... lol
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means the board sets maguires as strating 11 base on his price tag. cant even play for everton. wait he did..

every game he plays he plays against the red shirt. still starts. only under rr he got removed sometimes but still manage to comeback.. amazing
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post Apr 11 2022, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 11 2022, 04:09 PM)
means the board sets maguires as strating 11 base on his price tag. cant even play for everton. wait he did..

every game he plays he plays against the red shirt. still starts. only under rr he got removed sometimes but still manage to comeback.. amazing
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Maybe the rumor about the starting lineup clause is true in the team.
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post Apr 11 2022, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(even_steven @ Apr 11 2022, 04:28 PM)
Maybe the rumor about the starting lineup clause is true in the team.
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yeah... cant say he did nothing.. cause he is almost the cause of the leaks... every single game sure got new meme videos (not one only)... and yet he starts every game for ole and under RR he on and then off and now on again.. if im the other teammates i also leave.. did you watch him in training with other england teammates?
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post Apr 11 2022, 09:04 PM

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AWB, Maguire, Shaw, Lingard & Pogba

Get rid of these players! I would like to add Rashford & Sancho to the list but they deserve another season under a new manager.

Basically all crap english players. Stop buying overrated english players!
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post Apr 11 2022, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Apr 11 2022, 09:04 PM)
AWB, Maguire, Shaw, Lingard & Pogba

Get rid of these players! I would like to add Rashford & Sancho to the list but they deserve another season under a new manager.

Basically all crap english players. Stop buying overrated english players!
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sancho yes, rashford no
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post Apr 12 2022, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 11 2022, 12:17 PM)
the problem is none of the players are actually listening to instructions... when shit comes down... they will revert to their old style... lol.... the problem is always our midfield lose control... u lose control of that, u basically lose more than half of the battle... which is always the case... ole time, players happy to come back in a losing game for him... for RR... u can see, even after we are losing, the urgency to score back is not there... which can see how much player reli 'trust' him... lol
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Ya. Recent months, once we kena scored, there's no power to come back and win d. All we see is moaning from bruno, miss placed passes and maguire mistakes
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 11 2022, 12:17 PM)
the problem is none of the players are actually listening to instructions... when shit comes down... they will revert to their old style... lol.... the problem is always our midfield lose control... u lose control of that, u basically lose more than half of the battle... which is always the case... ole time, players happy to come back in a losing game for him... for RR... u can see, even after we are losing, the urgency to score back is not there... which can see how much player reli 'trust' him... lol
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Thats why most of those players gotta get axed.
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post Apr 12 2022, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(imin @ Apr 11 2022, 02:43 PM)
to do this, the next manager will need a board that will back the manager more than the players..  because currently it seems the board will happily back the players more than the manager..
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That's true.

Rangnick tried the 4-2-2-2 gegenpress but the players couldn't or wouldn't adapt. There was again the lack of effort and when you don't do the basic running in a gegenpress, it falls apart. Klopp would probably go get new players.
Rangnick can't. Rangnick can't buy a CDM he wants because Board opted not to and can't sell a player he doesn't in Lingard which got overruled by the Board again.

Club knows Rangnick is a temp. Players know.
Club management got themselves into this situation.

Imagine if Spurs do finish fourth above Arsenal and United. It's basically a point for Conte over the Board which didn't hire him.

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post Apr 12 2022, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(john_white @ Apr 11 2022, 10:24 PM)
sancho yes, rashford no
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not sure why the hate on sancho.. his first season and half of it under ole.

agree with you that he definitely can stay as he looks good and getting better these days. but rashford since lvg time already. considered he reach his maximum already. after so many years.
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post Apr 12 2022, 02:54 PM

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Yeah, if anyone deserve a chance, it's sancho. First batch to go got to be Maguire, Pogba, McFred and Martial, though I can't see Maguire will leave anytime soon. Rashford should be loaned out if not selling.
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QUOTE(imin @ Apr 11 2022, 02:43 PM)
to do this, the next manager will need a board that will back the manager more than the players..  because currently it seems the board will happily back the players more than the manager..
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The latest decision of renewing Bruno's contract to 5 years without a manager is a prove that this fully back the manager thing aint gonna happen..

QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 12 2022, 12:00 PM)
not sure why the hate on sancho.. his first season and half of it under ole.

agree with you that he definitely can stay as he looks good and getting better these days. but rashford since lvg time already. considered he reach his maximum already. after so many years.
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Hero football complex.. United fans dont rate players that cant do solo runs and/or scoring goals easily like its FIFA98..
That is why some players that are constantly disrupting teamplay is preferred more than other players.. because of the output of that single player, not the entire team..
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Apr 12 2022, 02:54 PM)
Yeah, if anyone deserve a chance, it's sancho. First batch to go got to be Maguire, Pogba, McFred and Martial, though I can't see Maguire will leave anytime soon. Rashford should be loaned out if not selling.
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Players that most likely leaving:

1. Pogba
2. Cavani
3. Mata
4. Lingard
5. Matic

Players that should join them, but nope they wont:

1. Maguire
2. Rashford
3. Shaw
4. AWB
5. Bruno
6. McT
7. Fred

^ these players will get new contracts, one got em already..
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post Apr 12 2022, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 12 2022, 08:42 AM)
That's true.

Rangnick tried the 4-2-2-2 gegenpress but the players couldn't or wouldn't adapt. There was again the lack of effort and when you don't do the basic running in a gegenpress, it falls apart. Klopp would probably go get new players.
Rangnick can't. Rangnick can't buy a CDM he wants because Board opted not to and can't sell a player he doesn't in Lingard which got overruled by the Board again.

Club knows Rangnick is a temp. Players know.
Club management got themselves into this situation.

Imagine if Spurs do finish fourth above Arsenal and United. It's basically a point for Conte over the Board which didn't hire him.
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but players knew ole was temporary as well.. why they willing to play better football under him during this temporary tenure... thats the question here... but they dont do the same for RR... lol
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post Apr 12 2022, 03:42 PM

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There's a call for boycott on next match against Norwich at Old Trafford..
Only for first 17 minutes though.. should be the whole match, but still its good start..



hope it will continue to something like Milan fans did..

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post Apr 12 2022, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Apr 12 2022, 03:42 PM)
There's a call for boycott on next match against Norwich at Old Trafford..
Only for first 17 minutes though.. should be the whole match, but still its good start..



hope it will continue to something like Milan fans did..

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"Let's face it you won't miss much action anyway"

Ouch.
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post Apr 12 2022, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 12 2022, 03:38 PM)
but players knew ole was temporary as well.. why they willing to play better football under him during this temporary tenure... thats the question here... but they dont do the same for RR... lol
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i actually have a few theory..

1. the other teams during that period were that bad and they didnt expect a team like mu's budget to play counter every single game. (can see after 1 season it doesnt work anymore)

2. we didnt have maguire, awb, bruno that time. the players thought you just need to step up to get to starting 11. these days u just need to be british. also one of the seasons that pogba shows up more than shying away

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 12 2022, 03:38 PM)
but players knew ole was temporary as well.. why they willing to play better football under him during this temporary tenure... thats the question here... but they dont do the same for RR... lol
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Ole is tactical clueless but cant deny he able to inspire ppl. Rr banyak tactic but cannot inspire. There is a reason rr won almost nothing before join us. Meanwhile all his students winning here and there because they have both skillets



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