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SUShioniq
post Mar 25 2022, 09:16 AM, updated 4y ago

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I am thinking to request to increase from 11% to 16%, save for the future provided epf rate is very nice.

What do you guys think?

As a salaried employee, you have the choice of contributing more for better savings. You or your employer (or both), may voluntarily contribute at a rate exceeding the statutory rate as long as you meet the requirements.
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:17 AM

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B40 say thank you, next month boleh withdraw lagi
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QUOTE(hioniq @ Mar 25 2022, 09:16 AM)
I am thinking to request to increase from 11% to 16%, save for the future provided epf rate is very nice.

What do you guys think?

As a salaried employee, you have the choice of contributing more for better savings. You or your employer (or both), may voluntarily contribute at a rate exceeding the statutory rate as long as you meet the requirements.
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self employed contribution

per month up to 5k

just bank-in will do

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/contribution...lf-contribution

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Mar 25 2022, 09:18 AM
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:17 AM

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/k will say sendiri invest better

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post Mar 25 2022, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(hioniq @ Mar 25 2022, 09:16 AM)
I am thinking to request to increase from 11% to 16%, save for the future provided epf rate is very nice.

What do you guys think?

As a salaried employee, you have the choice of contributing more for better savings. You or your employer (or both), may voluntarily contribute at a rate exceeding the statutory rate as long as you meet the requirements.
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Can you contribute 100% of your post tax salary?
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:18 AM

 
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first question you should ask yourself...

does your lifestyle have a higher chance to live past 55/60 years old?

if no then just YOLO.

like smoke/drink/ketum/boba tea/KFC/Texas/Mcd everyday.

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poweredbydiscuz
post Mar 25 2022, 09:19 AM

 
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No need increase contribution from salary, just self contribute via online banking.
19 Degree South
post Mar 25 2022, 09:20 AM

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All in Dnex! Can make 30k. Lol.
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:20 AM

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Depends on you. If you wants to keep long term passive investment with safe and good returns, can put in more. If you want to have more cash for other investment, you probably want to have more liquiditybin your hands. But if you have nowhere else better to put, then it's a good option.

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post Mar 25 2022, 09:21 AM

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i did put in more last year, epf even email me to continue put more. kek
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:22 AM

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if your'e below 1mil and far from it.. go ahead...


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post Mar 25 2022, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(hioniq @ Mar 25 2022, 09:16 AM)
I am thinking to request to increase from 11% to 16%, save for the future provided epf rate is very nice.

What do you guys think?

As a salaried employee, you have the choice of contributing more for better savings. You or your employer (or both), may voluntarily contribute at a rate exceeding the statutory rate as long as you meet the requirements.
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You can do self contribution directly from most banks online to your EPF account. Zero hassle.

One year max rm60k. Can transfer one shot.
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:25 AM

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better use the money to offset housing loan.
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Mar 25 2022, 09:20 AM)
All in Dnex! Can make 30k. Lol.
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Mar 25 2022, 09:24 AM)
You can do self contribution directly from most banks online to your EPF account. Zero hassle.

One year max rm60k. Can transfer one shot.
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Nice, year end I pump. Go bursa roll the money first, after win pump back to EPF
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Mar 25 2022, 09:24 AM)
You can do self contribution directly from most banks online to your EPF account. Zero hassle.

One year max rm60k. Can transfer one shot.
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one-off contribution?

anytime also can?

or is it must be committed to be every month?
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Mar 25 2022, 09:30 AM)
one-off contribution?

anytime also can?

or is it must be committed to be every month?
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You can do voluntary contribution up to 60k per year
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 25 2022, 09:31 AM)
You can do voluntary contribution up to 60k per year
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how about the timing? You can just bank in anytime as you like?

like let's say bank in 2022 once, then after that didnt bank in anymore next year.
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Mar 25 2022, 09:30 AM)
one-off contribution?

anytime also can?

or is it must be committed to be every month?
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Any time. Any amount. Only have limit of 60k a year.
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:42 AM

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Depends on what stage in life you are. EPF is a very good choice.

The only drawback is, it is not easy to withdraw in case of emergencies.
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(hioniq @ Mar 25 2022, 09:16 AM)
I am thinking to request to increase from 11% to 16%, save for the future provided epf rate is very nice.

What do you guys think?

As a salaried employee, you have the choice of contributing more for better savings. You or your employer (or both), may voluntarily contribute at a rate exceeding the statutory rate as long as you meet the requirements.
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better than FD cool2.gif cool2.gif
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:44 AM

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i think that would be a good choice... i did that for 3 years...from date i start working. now change back to 11% as i need it to pay for house.
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Mar 25 2022, 09:34 AM)
how about the timing? You can just bank in anytime as you like?

like let's say bank in 2022 once, then after that didnt bank in anymore next year.
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Yes. Limit is Rm60k per calendar year. And they calculate dividend from the time you paid in.
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:44 AM

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no thanks. prefer to invest somewhere else. can get 5-6% rate as well. and can withdraw anytime
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:49 AM

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Can gov staff contribute to epf if they want?
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Mar 25 2022, 09:44 AM)
no thanks. prefer to invest somewhere else. can get 5-6% rate as well. and can withdraw anytime
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(cmk96 @ Mar 25 2022, 09:25 AM)
better use the money to offset housing loan.
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Disagreed. Housing loan interest rate less than 4%, EPF dividend is higher.
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QUOTE(hioniq @ Mar 25 2022, 09:16 AM)
I am thinking to request to increase from 11% to 16%, save for the future provided epf rate is very nice.

What do you guys think?

As a salaried employee, you have the choice of contributing more for better savings. You or your employer (or both), may voluntarily contribute at a rate exceeding the statutory rate as long as you meet the requirements.
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QUOTE(hioniq @ Mar 25 2022, 09:16 AM)
I am thinking to request to increase from 11% to 16%, save for the future provided epf rate is very nice.

What do you guys think?

As a salaried employee, you have the choice of contributing more for better savings. You or your employer (or both), may voluntarily contribute at a rate exceeding the statutory rate as long as you meet the requirements.
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I say go ahead. I have some of my epf in external unit trust for diversification and they seldom perform as consistently as epf. If you can spare the cash to commit and are lazy to look for alternatives it's a safe, fuss free bet. I've been contributing extra for years.
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post Mar 25 2022, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(westley0214 @ Mar 25 2022, 09:53 AM)
Disagreed. Housing loan interest rate less than 4%, EPF dividend is higher.
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you should study what is monthly rest and daily rest interest. wink.gif

try ask around... those took 30 yrs loan... after 15 years.... principle debt reduced 50% or not..... its not.
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post Mar 25 2022, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(cmk96 @ Mar 25 2022, 10:12 AM)
you should study what is monthly rest and daily rest interest.  wink.gif

try ask around... those took 30 yrs loan... after 15 years.... principle debt reduced 50% or not..... its not.
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Oh ya you're correct. I totally forgot that EPF dividend is paid annually, while housing loan interest accrued monthly.

My bad doh.gif
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post Mar 25 2022, 10:17 AM

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You can just bank in any amount more you like yourself no need to forced 16%.

I'm quite fond of epf but, with contribute 24% from employee and employer monthly, is good enough.

The Extra bit u intend to put in epf can try on other investments, where u can withdraw before age 50.

Though u must treat these few investment just as epf, don't withdraw unless is absolutely necessary. A long term index fund would be a good idea.
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QUOTE(westley0214 @ Mar 25 2022, 10:13 AM)
Oh ya you're correct. I totally forgot that EPF dividend is paid annually, while housing loan interest accrued monthly.

My bad  doh.gif
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EPF dividends is calculated based on daily rest.
Housing loan is also daily rest.


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post Mar 25 2022, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Mar 25 2022, 10:57 AM)
EPF dividends is calculated based on daily rest.
Housing loan is also daily rest.
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Eh? How?

Meaning really more worth it to put more info EPF than pay for housing loan?
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post Mar 25 2022, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Mar 25 2022, 10:57 AM)
EPF dividends is calculated based on daily rest.
Housing loan is also daily rest.
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are you sure EPF on daily rest?
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QUOTE(cmk96 @ Mar 25 2022, 11:02 AM)
are you sure EPF on daily rest?
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QUOTE(westley0214 @ Mar 25 2022, 10:59 AM)
Eh? How?

Meaning really more worth it to put more info EPF than pay for housing loan?
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"Your dividend is divided into two types of calculations – annual compounded dividend and pro-rated monthly dividend. Both of these calculations are on daily rest – which means your dividend will be calculated based on the previous day’s outstanding balance."

https://www.imoney.my/articles/what-does-th...to-your-savings

daily rest but not compounded daily though... laugh.gif
sorry i failed maths so for further explanation go read imoney's website blush.gif
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post Mar 25 2022, 11:31 AM

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If do self contribute via online , it will go to acc1 or 2?
If go to acc2 thn good la , can park money and withdraw to buy hse later

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QUOTE(prdkancil @ Mar 25 2022, 11:31 AM)
If do self contribute via online , it will go to acc1 or 2?
If go to acc2 thn good la , can park money and withdraw to buy hse later
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Same like salary, 70% to Acc1 and 30% to Acc2.
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Mar 25 2022, 11:37 AM)
Same like salary, 70% to Acc1 and 30% to Acc2.
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May i knw the max self contribution RM60k is include the auto contribution from working salary?
Mean if my annual salary dy auto contribute around RM20k thn i only can do self contribution max RM40k ?
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QUOTE(prdkancil @ Mar 25 2022, 11:43 AM)
May i knw the max self contribution RM60k is include the auto contribution from working salary?
Mean if my annual salary dy auto contribute around RM20k thn i only can do self contribution max RM40k ?
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No. Separate.
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post Mar 25 2022, 11:46 AM

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to me its better now, later increase percentage worker said cost of living high but salary still low.
better save in bank or invest.
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post Mar 25 2022, 11:46 AM

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Continue to put till 2 million balance so that you can retire with high dividends
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post Mar 25 2022, 11:46 AM

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Got many other option other than epf ma

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post Mar 25 2022, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(prdkancil @ Mar 25 2022, 11:43 AM)
May i knw the max self contribution RM60k is include the auto contribution from working salary?
Mean if my annual salary dy auto contribute around RM20k thn i only can do self contribution max RM40k ?
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No. The 60k is known as Voluntary contribution. Meaning it is on top of your contribution from your salary.
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Mar 25 2022, 11:45 AM)
No. Separate.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 25 2022, 11:47 AM)
No. The 60k is known as Voluntary contribution. Meaning it is on top of your contribution from your salary.
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If i pump into my parents kwsp acc (total RM120k) annually since thy both already pass retirement ages can withdraw anytime , does it sound good plan?
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QUOTE(prdkancil @ Mar 25 2022, 11:50 AM)
If i pump into my parents kwsp acc (total RM120k) annually since thy both already pass retirement ages can withdraw anytime , does it sound good plan?
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Bro pump into your own, after 1mil freely withdraw. Better than all those trust fund
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QUOTE(prdkancil @ Mar 25 2022, 11:50 AM)
If i pump into my parents kwsp acc (total RM120k) annually since thy both already pass retirement ages can withdraw anytime , does it sound good plan?
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Absolutely. Be mindful that deposit after 55 years old can only withdraw after 60 years old.

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post Mar 25 2022, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(mavistan89 @ Mar 25 2022, 11:52 AM)
Bro pump into your own, after 1mil freely withdraw. Better than all those trust fund
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Bro the base 1m cant withdraw need wait till 55/60 yo lor , susah mcm ni haha .
If pump into parents account can withdraw full amount anytime ma .
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QUOTE(prdkancil @ Mar 25 2022, 11:59 AM)
Bro the base 1m cant withdraw need wait till 55/60 yo lor  , susah mcm ni haha .
If pump into parents account can withdraw full amount anytime ma .
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Yes bro. But if you have 1m, you won't care about the 1m anymore. You will be very excited when they are going to announce dividend every year and you won't want to take it out

 

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