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post Mar 24 2022, 11:48 AM, updated 4y ago

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KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia will discuss with regional leaders to make Bahasa Melayu or Malay as the second language of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), said Prime Minister Ismail Sabri Yaakob on Wednesday (Mar 23).

He was responding to questions in the Upper House on the efforts to elevate Malaysia’s national language at the international level.

Mr Ismail Sabri said apart from Malaysia, the Malay language is already used in several ASEAN countries such as Indonesia, Brunei, Singapore, Southern Thailand, Southern Philippines and parts of Cambodia.

He said during his visit to Cambodia recently, he was informed there were 800,000 Malay-Chams who used Malay and in Vietnam, there were some 160,000 Malay speakers among those of Malay-Cham ancestry.

There is also a small population of Malay speakers in Laos, he added.

“Hence in the whole of ASEAN there are people who can speak Malay. Therefore there is no reason why we cannot make Malay as one of the official languages of ASEAN," Mr Ismail Sabri said.

The prime minister added that he would discuss the matter with his ASEAN counterparts.

"I will discuss with the other leaders of ASEAN countries, especially those in countries that already use Malay. I will discuss with them on making Malay as the second language in ASEAN. After that, we will discuss with other leaders of ASEAN countries that have populations who speak Malay,” said Mr Ismail Sabri.

The prime minister was responding to a member of the Senate, Isa Ab Hamid who wanted to know about the government’s efforts to empower Malay language in Malaysia’s diplomatic and foreign relations.

“At this time, only four out of 10 ASEAN countries use English in official events at the international level. Whereas six other countries use their mother tongues for official matters which require translation,” he told the Senate.

Mr Ismail Sabri said that he always asked the foreign ministry to prepare for him speaking notes and related documents in Malay for his reference when conducting overseas official trips.

We do not have to feel ashamed or awkward to use Malay at the international level. The effort to empower Malay is also in line with one of the priority areas of Malaysia’s Foreign Policy Framework launched on Dec 7 last year,” he said.

The foreign ministry was also asked to provide Malay language classes for ministry staff who had been posted overseas along with their children.

Mr Ismail Sabri said that some of the children of the diplomatic officers have weak command of the Malay language because they study in international schools.

COMPULSORY FOR FOREIGN STUDENTS TO LEARN MALAY
Mr Ismail Sabri’s statement to the Upper House followed his earlier statement he made at the United Malays National Organisation (UMNO) General Assembly last Saturday, where he announced that the learning of Malay would be made compulsory for foreign students enrolling in Malaysian universities.

Mr Ismail Sabri who is one of UMNO’s three vice presidents said that Higher Education Minister Dr Noraini Ahmad had agreed to implement the proposal.

The time has come for us to be proud of the Malay language, as such there is no reason for us to feel awkward about speaking Malay even at the international stage, as language is the soul of the nation,” he told party delegates.

He also said that the ‘Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka’ Act which established the setting up of the body to coordinate the use of Malay language in the country, would also be amended.

This is to provide the body with the enforcement powers to take action against those who misuse the language, including those who put up sign boards containing language errors.

“Over 300 million of ASEAN’s population use Malay in daily speech. Malay has the seventh largest number of speakers in the world,” said Mr Ismail Sabri, expressing his hope that Malay would be ASEAN’s second language.

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Instead of improving the cost of lving and the economy for all Malaysians, this fella sesat championing language.
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can shiok sendiri propose malaysia as head of asean with asean using myr also. in the end see the other members vote to accept or not
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Old generation of Indonesian used to speak their Malay language exactly like those old P.Ramlee movie, but since the 1970s, they begin to include a lot of Javanese thing into their Bahasa, by number of speakers,not a problem to become ASEAN 2nd language.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Mar 24 2022, 11:49 AM)
Instead of improving the cost of lving and the economy for all Malaysians, this fella sesat championing language.
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Nothing new , AI tried the same thing back in 80/90 with BM Baku in hope to have a common BM within Malaysia and Indonesia.It make sense but this isn't the time to discuss about having a common language within ASEAN , there are more pressing matters..
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Lol, even in Malaysia everyday got new Malay word , convert from English word.

The other day i read English word team become tim. Dont believe try search. What's wrong with pasukan?

So if speak English speaking 80prcnt Malay alrdy.

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We should learn indon actually.
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270 million vs 32 million speakers. You're right.
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this guy tak habis2 with his malay agenda. worse than mudin
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The rest of the ASEAN countries are like: You want become taikor? Go settle SCS issue la.
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Speak English, Indo and Mandarin better.
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the more he force it,.. the more people hate it,..
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Indonesia the other most populous country also never said anything about their language. This dumbo trying to be hero in Asia. Fucking up the country is his legacy and history. Same as the other 2 before him. Not seeing any sunshine for more than 15 years already.
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instead of making Malay as a widely used language through country advancement, he go propose propose

not even Indonesia is this delusional shakehead.gif
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i almost forgot our PM existed. rupanya working hard on this proposal. while rakyat suffering.
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bahasa malay ke arah kuasa besar
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South Africa also got some meleis speaker, tell them it should be included as one of their already 11 official languages. Lawan jgn x lawan.
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The 1st language is of course English. The 2nd language to learn in Asean, is Thai.

Thailand has lots of migrant workers from its neighbouring countries, Myanmar, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam.

When travelling there, able to speak Thai is more handy than speaking English.

Actually Thailand is located centrally in ASEAN. We should also switch our clocks back 1 hour to be in same time zone as theirs.


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How they count 300mil Malay speaker?

All Indonesians that speak Indons automatically become Malay speaker?
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If just Bahasa. Then okay. Because Bahasa Melayu borrows heavily from Bahasa Indonesia. So Indonesia will oppose this.
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BM and BIndon is not the same, cannot count together. Learn Thai better. Thailand is now 2nd ASEAN power behind Singapore.
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I propose Singlish as official language of ASEAN. They are most successful country, must be taiko.
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Isu Malaysian language bkn No2 lagi penting dari isu economic negara...

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Bapa Bahasa strikes again laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Malay language is garbage la. Used by racist ppl who has comited genocidrle only.
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btw which other nation speak melei? and what benefit we can get from them?
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This is ridiculous. No wonder so many supporting bossku. He is much more of a statesman than any of these guys.
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Mar 24 2022, 11:52 AM)
We should learn indon actually.
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Inb4 indo doneclaim
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It is going to be interesting when other ASEAN member countries tells him to STFU.
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QUOTE(kdr93 @ Mar 24 2022, 12:09 PM)
Lol, even in Malaysia everyday got new Malay word , convert from English word.

The other day i read English word team become tim. Dont believe try search. What's wrong with pasukan?

So if speak English speaking 80prcnt Malay alrdy.
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Had always highly suspect Malays originated from Cambodia....
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Learn Thai/Vietnam also better. FDI no longer interested in RACIST Malaysia. U see engineet salary rm2k also no fdi want.
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QUOTE(kdr93 @ Mar 24 2022, 12:09 PM)
Lol, even in Malaysia everyday got new Malay word , convert from English word.

The other day i read English word team become tim. Dont believe try search. What's wrong with pasukan?

So if speak English speaking 80prcnt Malay alrdy.
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few other words come to mind - parkir, komputer, bank, kamera...
and I....
oh wait...

kek

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Mar 24 2022, 12:09 PM)
270 million vs 32 million speakers. You're right.
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Does this in any way gonna improve the economy and livehood of malaysians??
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few other words come to mind - parkir, komputer, bank, kamera...
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Go tell the Indonesians that they speak Malay. Go on...I'll wait wink.gif
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meanwhile nobody address SAPURA failures, rising cost of living n fuel subsidy
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QUOTE(Budgie Smuggler @ Mar 24 2022, 12:56 PM)
Go tell the Indonesians that they speak Malay. Go on...I'll wait wink.gif
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While they are it tell them to ask the indons what they think of malay the language. whistling.gif
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Imagine if thaimois learn melayuu. "abang mau pancut?? 5555"
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Does this in any way gonna improve the economy and livehood of malaysians??
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focus on unimportant stuff, cause it's easier
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First sentence they use

ASEAN : Sumpah tak kesah
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moment became momen


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QUOTE(kdr93 @ Mar 24 2022, 12:09 PM)
Lol, even in Malaysia everyday got new Malay word , convert from English word.

The other day i read English word team become tim. Dont believe try search. What's wrong with pasukan?

So if speak English speaking 80prcnt Malay alrdy.
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i saw " momen " on one khadijah billboard on federal haiway

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Only ppl with inferiority complex would propose something like this instead of focusing on what’s important.
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another national embarrassment after najib

want to make Malaysia same like this Mara Digital Mall?
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pandai penyu ni tryina lay a path for the incompetent minister yg tak tahu berbahasa english. like him.


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Go tell the Indonesians that they speak Malay. Go on...I'll wait wink.gif
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First you need to get your self out of your ethno-political stereotype and see the language as language.

I've recently been active in twitter space/clubhoues. Some spaces were conducted in with participants from Malaysia and Indonesia. Really there are no problems. By the end of the week every everyone can understand each other perfectly. In fact the way things are going i foresee that the primary driver for bahasa developments, be it the Malaysian or the Indonesian version will come from Indonesia. Their version were largely uncorrupted by English and and the way it was used, the are few languages that can be as beautiful as this one yet so, so practical.

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actually it's already kind of

see the amount of burmese, laos, viet, thai peope working in malaysia.
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Which language other countries want to use is non of your business lah.

Sekarang u takde kerja lain meh?
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Philippines + Thailand + Vietnam + Burma + Laos + Cambodia with combined population of more than 350M will be like "Ada aku kesah?"

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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Mar 24 2022, 12:05 PM)
Malaysia should have only 1nation.
Lookimg at comment can see the shadow nation
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Like how??
Gegosok bebird in the shadow??

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Thai and Viet doesn't speak Malay wat
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Why the hell would he propose something like this...recent happenings has dropped our face kao²

Pls la dun make us embarrassing man...
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QUOTE(kdr93 @ Mar 24 2022, 12:09 PM)
Lol, even in Malaysia everyday got new Malay word , convert from English word.

The other day i read English word team become tim. Dont believe try search. What's wrong with pasukan?

So if speak English speaking 80prcnt Malay alrdy.
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Most of the new additions originated from the Indonesia. We adopt them probably to keep the written texts standardized. IINM there's a cross border body that decided on this. But at the end of the day these new words are just alternatives, if preferred the traditional one like pasukan etc are still avalilable.
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QUOTE(FappyBird @ Mar 24 2022, 01:37 PM)
Why the hell would he propose something like this...recent happenings has dropped our face kao²

Pls la dun make us embarrassing man...
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bumi ini milik siape whistling.gif
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Mar 24 2022, 11:49 AM)
Instead of improving the cost of lving and the economy for all Malaysians, this fella sesat championing language.
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Mar 24 2022, 11:51 AM)
this guy tak habis2 with his malay agenda. worse than mudin
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bumi ini milik siape whistling.gif
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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Mar 24 2022, 12:05 PM)
Malaysia should have only 1nation.
Lookimg at comment can see the shadow nation
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They are not malaysian la.
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KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia will discuss with regional leaders to make Bahasa Melayu or Malay as the second language of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), said Prime Minister Ismail Sabri Yaakob on Wednesday (Mar 23).

He was responding to questions in the Upper House  on the efforts to elevate Malaysia’s national language at the international level.

Mr Ismail Sabri said apart from Malaysia, the Malay language is already used in several ASEAN countries such as Indonesia, Brunei, Singapore, Southern Thailand, Southern Philippines and parts of Cambodia.

He said during his visit to Cambodia recently, he was informed there were 800,000 Malay-Chams who used Malay and in Vietnam, there were some 160,000 Malay speakers among those of Malay-Cham ancestry.

There is also a small population of Malay speakers in Laos, he added. 

“Hence in the whole of ASEAN there are people who can speak Malay. Therefore there is no reason why we cannot make Malay as one of the official languages of ASEAN," Mr Ismail Sabri said.

The prime minister added that he would discuss the matter with his ASEAN counterparts.

"I will discuss with the other leaders of ASEAN countries, especially those in countries that already use Malay. I will discuss with them on making Malay as the second language in ASEAN. After that, we will discuss with other leaders of ASEAN countries that have populations who speak Malay,” said Mr Ismail Sabri.

The prime minister was responding to a member of the Senate, Isa Ab Hamid who wanted to know about the government’s efforts to empower Malay language in Malaysia’s diplomatic and foreign relations.

“At this time, only four out of 10 ASEAN countries use English in official events at the international level. Whereas six other countries use their mother tongues for official matters which require translation,” he told the Senate.

Mr Ismail Sabri said that he always asked the foreign ministry to prepare for him speaking notes and related documents in Malay for his reference when conducting overseas official trips.

We do not have to feel ashamed or awkward to use Malay at the international level. The effort to empower Malay is also in line with one of the priority areas of Malaysia’s Foreign Policy Framework launched on Dec 7 last year,” he said.

The foreign ministry was also asked to provide Malay language classes for ministry staff who had been posted overseas along with their children.

Mr Ismail Sabri said that some of the children of the diplomatic officers have weak command of the Malay language because they study in international schools.

COMPULSORY FOR FOREIGN STUDENTS TO LEARN MALAY
Mr Ismail Sabri’s statement to the Upper House followed his earlier statement he made at the United Malays National Organisation (UMNO) General Assembly last Saturday, where he announced that the learning of Malay would be made compulsory for foreign students enrolling in Malaysian universities. 

Mr Ismail Sabri who is one of UMNO’s three vice presidents said that Higher Education Minister Dr Noraini Ahmad had agreed to implement the proposal.

The time has come for us to be proud of the Malay language, as such there is no reason for us to feel awkward about speaking Malay even at the international stage, as language is the soul of the nation,” he told party delegates.

He also said that the ‘Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka’  Act which established the setting up of the body to coordinate the use of Malay language in the country, would also be amended.

This is to provide the body with the enforcement powers to take action against those who misuse the language, including those who put up sign boards containing language errors.

“Over 300 million of ASEAN’s population use Malay in daily speech. Malay has the seventh largest number of speakers in the world,”  said Mr Ismail Sabri, expressing his hope that Malay  would be ASEAN’s second language.
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QUOTE(theberry @ Mar 24 2022, 11:48 AM)
JOKES OF THE DECADE

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KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia will discuss with regional leaders to make Bahasa Melayu or Malay as the second language of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), said Prime Minister Ismail Sabri Yaakob on Wednesday (Mar 23).

He was responding to questions in the Upper House  on the efforts to elevate Malaysia’s national language at the international level.
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Mar 24 2022, 01:48 PM)
Indonesian veli different from BM leh ohmy.gif

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Bukan Indonesia different, but other parts of ASEAN also different!
Look at East & West Malaysia BM speaking also different!
Close to Peninsula Malaysia, Kelantan vs Johor also different!
And now socmed Bahasa Rempit! rclxub.gif
Srly ini TKSS shj.
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Malay language is getting more and more like Indonesian language nowadays.
Too many bahasa pinjaman when Malay language itself has the word.
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He can't speak Manglish, that's it enough say lol
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kesian...internationally ppl recognised SG and Indon more if were to expand BM

before u can walk...already want to fly LOLOL....sabri ohh sabriii boneka badut

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currently outside ppl see msia like Zimbabwe but talking about dominating the world
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QUOTE(FappyBird @ Mar 24 2022, 01:37 PM)
Why the hell would he propose something like this...recent happenings has dropped our face kao²

Pls la dun make us embarrassing man...
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everything propose is for the equal good of oren kita.... laugh.gif

Soon he going to propose all ASEAN must pay zakat laugh.gif
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If i were to go for an international event, is it a must for me to answer journalist/reporter in BM?
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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Mar 24 2022, 12:05 PM)
Malaysia should have only 1nation.
Lookimg at comment can see the shadow nation
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reap what you sow brother.
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QUOTE(pandah @ Mar 24 2022, 01:26 PM)
Which language other countries want to use is non of your business lah.

Sekarang u takde kerja lain meh?
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you thinking fucking up nation doesn't come with consequences?

reap what you sow brother.
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First of all... How those policy involved u? I'm talking about the news
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First of all... How those policy involved u? I'm talking about the news
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With the current state the country is in (declining and playing catch up), our country is not in the standing to push anything grandiose. Be clear of where you stand. You want to do this, fine, if you're one of the more prosperous country, maybe. but clearly we have fucked it up with decades of R&R politics.

what everyone want are policies that actually move the country forward. Not something hollow like championing a language.

Make your culture worthwhile, others will follow.

also decades of sidelining the minorities and is surprised everyone is not being very supportive?

Why are you surprised?

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QUOTE(phantomash @ Mar 24 2022, 02:54 PM)
With the current state the country is in (declining and playing catch up), our country is not in the standing to push anything grandiose. Be clear of where you stand. You want to do this, fine, if you're one of the more prosperous country, maybe.  but clearly we have fucked it up with decades of R&R politics.

what everyone want are policies that actually move the country forward. Not something that is hollow like championing a language.

Make your culture worthwhile, others will follow.

also decades of sidelining the minorities and is surprised everyone is not being very supportive?

Why are you surprised?
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I ask u again, how's that policies affect u again?
Apa r&r? Obviously u are too stupid to distinguish between r&r issue n nation issue

Buat sosma pun, ramai MP ponteng how? Sosma tu penting juga
Why Malaysian ndver do bersih perhimpunan asking AG to be elected n freed from political interference... Itu pun penting juga
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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Mar 24 2022, 03:06 PM)
I ask u again, how's that policies affect u again?
Apa r&r? Obviously u are too stupid to distinguish between r&r issue n nation issue

Buat sosma pun, ramai MP ponteng how? Sosma tu penting juga
Why Malaysian ndver do bersih perhimpunan asking AG to be elected n freed from political interference... Itu pun penting juga
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firstly, he's the PM of Malaysia right? or PM of Malay?

furthermore, he's focusing on a not so important issue with an ineffective solution for the issue.

which shows how hollow it is. but his small brain probably can't comprehend la. look at mara digital mall to see his level.

I'm all for championing the language, but do it effectively. not using big mouth talking.

the country is mostly revolve around R&R politics for decades, and is brought down by R&R politics.

which affects ME, cos the I live in this country and pay taxes. fuck you if you think otherwise.

did I say this language championing is an R&R policy?

finally, don't marah marah stupid la. cannot debate properly is it?

you're bani you know.

quite popular one.

I could have called you sohai also but I don't cos I respect you.

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Possible if you can get indon speak BM. They are proud on their B Indo
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Mar 24 2022, 12:45 PM)
It is going to be interesting when other ASEAN member countries tells him to STFU.
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QUOTE(roarus @ Mar 24 2022, 11:51 AM)
can shiok sendiri propose malaysia as head of asean with asean using myr also. in the end see the other members vote to accept or not
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If Malaysia is the tiger of Asean, ok lah. Ringgit also not accepted in some countries.
Now even Vietnam is catching up, why not everyone talk Vietnamese.
Just admit your English tak boleh pakai.
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QUOTE(phantomash @ Mar 24 2022, 03:59 PM)
firstly, he's the PM of Malaysia right? or PM of Malay?

furthermore, he's focusing on a not so important issue with an ineffective solution for the issue.

which shows how hollow it is. but his small brain probably can't comprehend la. look at mara digital mall to see his level.

I'm all for championing the language, but do it effectively. not using big mouth talking.

the country is mostly revolve around R&R politics for decades, and is brought down by R&R politics.

which affects ME, cos the I live in this country and pay taxes. fuck you if you think otherwise.

did I say this language championing is an R&R policy?

finally, don't marah marah stupid la. cannot debate properly is it?

you're bani you know.

quite popular one.

I could have called you sohai also but I don't cos I respect you.
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Again u don't understand what race n what nation
BM is our national language for malay, Chinese n Indian, n the rest
Just like Hong Kong and China, both are Chinese, but they different nation.
N Korean n s Korean, both are same races, but nation is different

Similarly Indonesian and malaysia

Nation is not same with race
Bangsa tak sama dengan kaum

When u fail to understand the difference, even when it's not racial issue u call it racial issue.

Race is simply about different culture n different race
But nation (bangsa) refers to collective group of people that same one common characteristic that shared all ttlogether.
Usually this common uniting factor is language

But it depends
Look at India n Pakistan. They all have share similar race n history, but they are distinguish because of religion
Similarly with n Korean n s Korean, similar race but they nation exist differently because of political system

I already share how language can be matter when comes to language. Give more reason for hired teacher, hired translator, hire software translation, increase market coverage

Anyway don't marah2lah... Just that I follow kttard culture of trolling

There's no best timing lah. Best timing when, u tell me. Until 1usd to 1myr?
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QUOTE(Danielle Lav @ Mar 24 2022, 11:51 AM)
bapak bahasa

anyways, pls abolish bahasa wicet dulu
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QUOTE(Kelangketerusa @ Mar 24 2022, 11:57 AM)
Malay is not even the second language spoken in Malaysia.

1. English
2. bhs wicet, x phm ke?
3. CCP
4. BM
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QUOTE(Omni-Man @ Mar 24 2022, 12:34 PM)
Malay language is garbage la. Used by racist ppl who has comited genocidrle only.
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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Mar 24 2022, 06:31 PM)
Again u don't understand what race n what nation
BM is our national language for malay, Chinese n Indian, n the rest
Just like Hong Kong and China, both are Chinese, but they different nation.
N Korean n s Korean, both are same races, but nation is different

Similarly Indonesian and malaysia

Nation is not same with race
Bangsa tak sama dengan kaum

When u fail to understand the difference, even when it's not racial issue u call it racial issue.

Race  is simply about different culture n different race
But nation (bangsa) refers to collective group of people that same one common characteristic that shared all ttlogether.
Usually this common uniting factor is language

But it depends
Look at India n Pakistan. They all have share similar race n history, but they are distinguish because of religion
Similarly with n Korean n s Korean, similar race but they nation exist differently because of political system

I already share how language can be matter when comes to language. Give more reason for hired teacher, hired translator, hire software translation, increase market coverage

Anyway don't marah2lah... Just that I follow kttard culture of trolling

There's no best timing lah. Best timing when, u tell me. Until 1usd to 1myr?
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"Bangsa tak sama dengan kaum"

But in gov forms bangsa: Melayu, Cina, India, DLL

No Malaysian also
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QUOTE(RS42 @ Mar 24 2022, 07:11 PM)
"Bangsa tak sama dengan kaum"

But in gov forms bangsa: Melayu, Cina, India, DLL

No Malaysian also
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Should be kaum lah
Like i say... People are mixing up kaum and bangsa as same. When it's fact its not same if we look from political sciencr
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Bodoh make your country strong before asking other follow but base on majority Malaysian , Malaysia menmang tak boleh. Yang boleh hanya baju pundek panjang, tudung ada tidak
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Isn't this the same dude that propose mara digital to "champion" malay rights? Hmm i wonder how the malay business owners are doing now.. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Mar 24 2022, 06:31 PM)
Again u don't understand what race n what nation
BM is our national language for malay, Chinese n Indian, n the rest
Just like Hong Kong and China, both are Chinese, but they different nation.
N Korean n s Korean, both are same races, but nation is different

Similarly Indonesian and malaysia

Nation is not same with race
Bangsa tak sama dengan kaum

When u fail to understand the difference, even when it's not racial issue u call it racial issue.

Race  is simply about different culture n different race
But nation (bangsa) refers to collective group of people that same one common characteristic that shared all ttlogether.
Usually this common uniting factor is language

But it depends
Look at India n Pakistan. They all have share similar race n history, but they are distinguish because of religion
Similarly with n Korean n s Korean, similar race but they nation exist differently because of political system

I already share how language can be matter when comes to language. Give more reason for hired teacher, hired translator, hire software translation, increase market coverage

Anyway don't marah2lah... Just that I follow kttard culture of trolling

There's no best timing lah. Best timing when, u tell me. Until 1usd to 1myr?
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Type so long. Just go gosok to your banggalah porn lah.
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Among thousands of topics that can be discussed.he choose this.
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diam7 liao. con9lan7firm tu bahasa wechat bukan?
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No, con9lan7firm is cainis.

wicet level is higher, straight don't need vowels d.
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The raykats are dragged down to fulfill his never ending ego for his language.
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QUOTE(Kelangketerusa @ Mar 24 2022, 07:48 PM)
No, con9lan7firm is cainis.

wicet level is higher, straight don't need vowels d.
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Type so long. Just go gosok to your banggalah porn lah.
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U mean seijiseimura? If I recall properly my master pernah complain how he lend his hp to 2feidei than this shit happem
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BM has benefited from the existence and popularity of Bahasa Indon. This is because the number of Bahasa Indon speakers is the entire population of Indonesia, which is almost 300 million. If the population of Indon speakers is not large, I'm not sure Sabri would dare to put forward this proposal. That's fact.....like or dislike

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the suggestion and reasonings are kinda funny. so since it is based on the reasoning that many already speak a language and hence that language should be made a second language, later SG ask for Mandarin how? somemore china is becoming more and more important as a trading partner to the region....

like that die lor... I am Mandarin illiterate leh...
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The more you ktards debate this, the sillier Penyu's proposal sound. He is basically culturally appropriating B. Indon to be same as B. Melayu. That's where he get the 300 million figure from.

You propose this to ASEAN, what would Indonesia response be? Care to guess?

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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Mar 24 2022, 07:35 PM)
Isn't this the same dude that propose mara digital to "champion" malay rights? Hmm i wonder how the malay business owners are doing now.. hmm.gif

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How does the whole Asean speaking Malay help to develop Malaysia?

Or how does speaking Malay solve the flood problem in Klang Valley?
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QUOTE(Danielle Lav @ Mar 24 2022, 11:51 AM)
bapak bahasa

anyways, pls abolish bahasa wicet dulu
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Not only many people butcher their language in rempit/wicet ways, even many words also converted and polluted from English rampantly.

In summary, if they can't even respect their own language, how are they going to convince foreigners to learn their language?

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He wants to make Malay Language as the Lingua Franca in SEA again just like in the 14th century if I'm not mistaken. I remembered studying this in Sejarah.
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Then Ade bola ke tidak jike mrk xnk belajar BM, xnak ckp BM???
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Malaysia said that 20 years ago maybe people care. Now we are a joke in asean with all the kleptocrat cases and backdoor government.

Basically we just same or lower ranking than cambodia and asean leader just let our pm syok sendiri without taking him serious

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Mar 24 2022, 09:52 PM)
The more you ktards debate this, the sillier Penyu's proposal sound. He is basically culturally appropriating B. Indon to be same as B. Melayu. That's where he get the 300 million figure from.

You propose this to ASEAN, what would Indonesia response be? Care to guess?
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It is the same language although there were localization differences. Maybe if anyone prefers it can be referred to a general, non confrontational alt term such as 'bahasa'. But it doesnt take away the fact that it is still the same language family. Look at it this way. If you call a language Australian or American or Canadian just because you hated the Brits for eg. that actually just silly.

Also what cultural appropriation when most Malays and technical Malays like Zahid Hamidi for eg. memang can trace their root to Indonesia pun.
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First of all, they should have a good alignment with the bahasa accent we have. Sometimes i read the way ppl write malay online, can get cancer!
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aiya let them syok sendiri and enjoy their vacation overseas to "bincang" la. this shit will die down by year end or when he gets replaced.
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QUOTE(ukapaka @ Mar 24 2022, 10:52 PM)
It is the same language although there were localization differences. Maybe if anyone prefers it can be referred to a general, non confrontational alt term such as 'bahasa'. But it doesnt take away the fact that it is still the same language family. Look at it this way. If you call a language Australian or American or Canadian just because you hated the Brits for eg. that actually just silly.

Also what cultural appropriation when most Malays and technical Malays like Zahid Hamidi for eg. memang can trace their root to Indonesia pun.
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most indon malay come here in 1800
then in 1970-80s
usually johor..selangor..n9 and melaka where this malay reside
they were no people in southern peninsular in 1500s except for orang asli
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QUOTE(callmecool @ Mar 24 2022, 10:31 PM)
He wants to make Malay Language as the Lingua Franca in SEA again just like in the 14th century if I'm not mistaken. I remembered studying this in Sejarah.
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Yeah, that's what the sejarah book claim. lol.
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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Mar 24 2022, 06:31 PM)
Again u don't understand what race n what nation
BM is our national language for malay, Chinese n Indian, n the rest
Just like Hong Kong and China, both are Chinese, but they different nation.
N Korean n s Korean, both are same races, but nation is different

Similarly Indonesian and malaysia

Nation is not same with race
Bangsa tak sama dengan kaum

When u fail to understand the difference, even when it's not racial issue u call it racial issue.

Race  is simply about different culture n different race
But nation (bangsa) refers to collective group of people that same one common characteristic that shared all ttlogether.
Usually this common uniting factor is language

But it depends
Look at India n Pakistan. They all have share similar race n history, but they are distinguish because of religion
Similarly with n Korean n s Korean, similar race but they nation exist differently because of political system

I already share how language can be matter when comes to language. Give more reason for hired teacher, hired translator, hire software translation, increase market coverage

Anyway don't marah2lah... Just that I follow kttard culture of trolling

There's no best timing lah. Best timing when, u tell me. Until 1usd to 1myr?
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Um, hongkong is in China, administered by China, part of China. It is silly to say otherwise. I think you meant Taiwan
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most indon malay come here in 1800
then in 1970-80s
usually johor..selangor..n9 and melaka where this malay reside
they were no people in southern peninsular in 1500s except for orang asli
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Um, hongkong is in China, administered by China, part of China. It is silly to say otherwise. I think you meant Taiwan
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Sort of....u are right saying Taiwan n China as a good comparison

Even with Hong Kong, u see they are not yet still absolved the idea into China fully. There is still political conflict n still struggling to adapt into 2 difference system
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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Mar 25 2022, 12:09 AM)
Sort of....u are right saying Taiwan n China as a good comparison

Even with Hong Kong, u see they are  not yet still absolved the idea into China fully. There is still political conflict n still struggling to adapt into 2 difference system
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that's true. There wont be HK without Britain, and there wont be modern China without HK. China should respect the political system in HK that made them rich.
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Why not Vietnamese, Burmese, Thai, Khmer, Tagalog also official language of ASEAN?
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QUOTE(ukapaka @ Mar 24 2022, 10:52 PM)
It is the same language although there were localization differences. Maybe if anyone prefers it can be referred to a general, non confrontational alt term such as 'bahasa'. But it doesnt take away the fact that it is still the same language family. Look at it this way. If you call a language Australian or American or Canadian just because you hated the Brits for eg. that actually just silly.

Also what cultural appropriation when most Malays and technical Malays like Zahid Hamidi for eg. memang can trace their root to Indonesia pun.
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I have found referring to BM as just 'bahasa' quite retarded.
Languages usually named after the race/culture or country. Here we just say 'language', in a different language.

"Kenapa you tak boleh cakap bahasa?" translate to
"Why you can't speak language?" confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif
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A government championing the language instead of the welfare of the people, well done!
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We all know we are doomed when such things are the main focus.
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i don't mind if malaysia is 1st nation country and propose that statement

our economic performance also lose to thai sumore want to introduce malay as official language in ASEAN

i dunno where he put his brain


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I have found referring to BM as just 'bahasa' quite retarded.
Languages usually named after the race/culture or country. Here we just say 'language', in a different language.

"Kenapa you tak boleh cakap bahasa?" translate to
"Why you can't speak language?"  confused.gif  confused.gif  confused.gif  confused.gif
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ikr. but it's an acceptable compromise lah imo.
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want to get your country to international level please lah use English

sohai pundek kimak backward mentality for 60+ years not enough?
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ikr. but it's an acceptable compromise lah imo.
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I feel not really. Language shouldn't be butchered. Simplified, yes. Depending on circumstance.

This is like lowering quality, then wanna promote to world rclxub.gif
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Good quality politicans and topics I don't see, that's why I don't even bother to get my finger inked..
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QUOTE(ukapaka @ Mar 24 2022, 10:52 PM)
It is the same language although there were localization differences. Maybe if anyone prefers it can be referred to a general, non confrontational alt term such as 'bahasa'. But it doesnt take away the fact that it is still the same language family. Look at it this way. If you call a language Australian or American or Canadian just because you hated the Brits for eg. that actually just silly.

Also what cultural appropriation when most Malays and technical Malays like Zahid Hamidi for eg. memang can trace their root to Indonesia pun.
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It is similar but not the same. Australian or American is a slang but still English as standard. There are no standard for bahasa. In order it to be an official language, you need to choose one.

Which ties back to my original question, what would Indon say when you with only 32mil speaker want to use your bm as standard instead of b. Indon which have 280 million speaker? Indons are very patriotic too.

It's just silliness and would go no where while offending our neighbours.


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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Mar 25 2022, 09:17 AM)
It is similar but not the same. Australian or American is a slang but still English as standard. There are no standard for bahasa. In order it to be an official language, you need to choose one.

Which ties back to my original question, what would Indon say when you with only 32mil speaker want to use your bm as standard instead of b. Indon which have 280 million speaker? Indons are very patriotic too.

It's just silliness and would go no where while offending our neighbours.
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I bet Indon not wanting to use together one language is because back then our grandparents associate the malay race name as the country and language name. Instead of identity for all Austronesian including Indon, it tied only for Malaysia.
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bodoh is a form of human rights. So, kasi chan to Peeyam
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QUOTE(knumskul @ Mar 25 2022, 03:52 AM)
I feel not really. Language shouldn't be butchered. Simplified, yes. Depending on circumstance.

This is like lowering quality, then wanna promote to world  rclxub.gif
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The written version is intact and standardized across the family. Dialects are normal.
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Mar 25 2022, 09:17 AM)
It is similar but not the same. Australian or American is a slang but still English as standard. There are no standard for bahasa. In order it to be an official language, you need to choose one.

Which ties back to my original question, what would Indon say when you with only 32mil speaker want to use your bm as standard instead of b. Indon which have 280 million speaker? Indons are very patriotic too.

It's just silliness and would go no where while offending our neighbours.
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There are.

The resentment if any are more towards socio-politic than the language.

They are family.
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This is why we laugh at our leaders. ASEAN meeting, supposedly to be regarded as 'important', and your agenda is the use of language? This is the priority?
He has a huge opportunity to discuss about irrigation, the future of living with covid, or other current issue. Haihh...
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Mar 25 2022, 09:17 AM)
It is similar but not the same. Australian or American is a slang but still English as standard. There are no standard for bahasa. In order it to be an official language, you need to choose one.

Which ties back to my original question, what would Indon say when you with only 32mil speaker want to use your bm as standard instead of b. Indon which have 280 million speaker? Indons are very patriotic too.

It's just silliness and would go no where while offending our neighbours.
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It’s not slang!
It’s accent!
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Bahasa Indonesia is different from BM.
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Why BM as second language of ASEaN? Why not thai or Vietnamese or tagalog all of which have more speakers?

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QUOTE(dickybird @ Mar 25 2022, 02:19 PM)
It’s not slang!
It’s accent!
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Got minor difference. Like spelling and some words commonly used like boot/trunk and bonnet/hood or pants/trousers lift/ elevator

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foreign student must learn BM


No more foreign student come study here

rip private uni
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Got minor difference. Like spelling and some words commonly used like boot/trunk and bonnet/hood or pants/trousers lift/ elevator
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Slang means colloquial words not a different in speech emphasis.
Lazy ass Malaysians who have decided to 14th floor their English proficiency because of their orenkite bodoh sombongness will conflate the 2. It’s embarrassing.
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Xde agenda lain ke

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if there are not many Indonesian speakers (of which Indonesian speakers account for nearly 300 million people), I'm not sure Mail would dare to put forward the idea...like or dislike BM rides on the popularity of Bhasa Indon.
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Apr 3 2022, 10:36 PM)

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Can see even average indonesian scoff at the idea in the comment. Kesian to those that desperate to defend sabri agenda.
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This. hmm.gif  I mean it's fascinating that you can understand bahasa Indonesia.  biggrin.gif

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Msia bahasa oso not accurate one ..why wan to follow msia not indo ? Msia use bahasa wichet alot
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The whole world flockng to Indonesia to make billions from the relocation of Capital to Nusantara

our pm buat apa? Insulting Indonesians with BM on their home turf!! Why BM, they asked?
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