Go tell the Indonesians that they speak Malay. Go on...I'll wait
First you need to get your self out of your ethno-political stereotype and see the language as language.
I've recently been active in twitter space/clubhoues. Some spaces were conducted in with participants from Malaysia and Indonesia. Really there are no problems. By the end of the week every everyone can understand each other perfectly. In fact the way things are going i foresee that the primary driver for bahasa developments, be it the Malaysian or the Indonesian version will come from Indonesia. Their version were largely uncorrupted by English and and the way it was used, the are few languages that can be as beautiful as this one yet so, so practical.
Lol, even in Malaysia everyday got new Malay word , convert from English word.
The other day i read English word team become tim. Dont believe try search. What's wrong with pasukan?
So if speak English speaking 80prcnt Malay alrdy.
Most of the new additions originated from the Indonesia. We adopt them probably to keep the written texts standardized. IINM there's a cross border body that decided on this. But at the end of the day these new words are just alternatives, if preferred the traditional one like pasukan etc are still avalilable.
The more you ktards debate this, the sillier Penyu's proposal sound. He is basically culturally appropriating B. Indon to be same as B. Melayu. That's where he get the 300 million figure from.
You propose this to ASEAN, what would Indonesia response be? Care to guess?
It is the same language although there were localization differences. Maybe if anyone prefers it can be referred to a general, non confrontational alt term such as 'bahasa'. But it doesnt take away the fact that it is still the same language family. Look at it this way. If you call a language Australian or American or Canadian just because you hated the Brits for eg. that actually just silly.
Also what cultural appropriation when most Malays and technical Malays like Zahid Hamidi for eg. memang can trace their root to Indonesia pun.
most indon malay come here in 1800 then in 1970-80s usually johor..selangor..n9 and melaka where this malay reside they were no people in southern peninsular in 1500s except for orang asli
I have found referring to BM as just 'bahasa' quite retarded. Languages usually named after the race/culture or country. Here we just say 'language', in a different language.
"Kenapa you tak boleh cakap bahasa?" translate to "Why you can't speak language?"
It is similar but not the same. Australian or American is a slang but still English as standard. There are no standard for bahasa. In order it to be an official language, you need to choose one.
Which ties back to my original question, what would Indon say when you with only 32mil speaker want to use your bm as standard instead of b. Indon which have 280 million speaker? Indons are very patriotic too.
It's just silliness and would go no where while offending our neighbours.
There are.
The resentment if any are more towards socio-politic than the language.
Mar 24 2022, 01:24 PM
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I mean it's fascinating that you can understand bahasa Indonesia. 
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