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TSNeohJing
post Mar 14 2022, 02:39 AM, updated 4y ago

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Wanna ask if Working in Singapore got EPF or not?
Need to pay tax also?
Now minimum wages for working in Singapore for fresh graduates degree is how much.
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post Mar 14 2022, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(NeohJing @ Mar 14 2022, 02:39 AM)
Wanna ask if Working in Singapore got EPF or not?
Need to pay tax also?
Now minimum wages for working in Singapore for fresh graduates degree is how much.
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income tax (to sg gov) 100% for sure need to pay liao.
epf equivalent is called cpf there. only if u becum pr got cpf, if u no sg pr then u got 100% salary & no cpf deduction at all.
minimum wage I'm not sure. last time I use spm can get 3k while my kolik using degree only get 2.6k. it's also depend on ur work pass type (whether work permit / employment pass / etc) & based on ur skillet too.
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post Mar 14 2022, 08:36 AM

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I assume for your level, should be able to get an employment pass. CPF only available to citizens & PRs. Might be starting from 2.5k.
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post Mar 14 2022, 08:44 AM

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Malaysia Pr and citizen only have CFP.
Fresh grad salary starting 3k SGD
You need to pay tax if you stayed in Singapore for more than 183 days (not sure the correct figure)
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post Mar 14 2022, 08:48 AM

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Stay in Sg earn their money but don't wan pay tax , dream laa
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post Mar 14 2022, 09:36 AM

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TS, what's the reason for this thread? If it's for post count, ok.

If it's to find info before you decide to work there, I suggest you reconsider your decision. A person who likes to be spoonfed (Google search will yield those answers to your questions) will not survive there.
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post Mar 14 2022, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(NeohJing @ Mar 14 2022, 02:39 AM)
Wanna ask if Working in Singapore got EPF or not?
Need to pay tax also?
Now minimum wages for working in Singapore for fresh graduates degree is how much.
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1 yes
2 yes
3 this is singapore .. so malaysian would be half. rclxm9.gif
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post Mar 14 2022, 09:58 AM

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Minimum salary for employment pass is SGD4500. Next year will be raised to SGD5000.

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post Mar 14 2022, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(xswatch @ Mar 14 2022, 02:49 AM)
income tax (to sg gov) 100% for sure need to pay liao.
epf equivalent is called cpf there. only if u becum pr got cpf, if u no sg pr then u got 100% salary & no cpf deduction at all.
minimum wage I'm not sure. last time I use spm can get 3k while my kolik using degree only get 2.6k. it's also depend on ur work pass type (whether work permit / employment pass / etc) & based on ur skillet too.
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Our EPF better, even with working visa also can contribute to EPF
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post Mar 16 2022, 10:41 AM

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Rental of a room there could easily reach SGD1,000 nowadays
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post Mar 16 2022, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(eternities @ Mar 16 2022, 10:41 AM)
Rental of a room there could easily reach SGD1,000 nowadays
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Pho real
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post Mar 16 2022, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Xsence @ Mar 16 2022, 11:42 AM)
Pho real
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Real. You may google rentinsingapore for a general idea of how's the rental market there.

Wanna work in Singapore, best to find friends to share room rental together, else hard to save money.
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post Mar 16 2022, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(eternities @ Mar 16 2022, 03:15 PM)
Real. You may google rentinsingapore for a general idea of how's the rental market there.

Wanna work in Singapore, best to find friends to share room rental together, else hard to save money.
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LOL if want find room , i help u , not even cost $1000 per month doh.gif doh.gif a single middle-size private room only cost around $600-700
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post Mar 17 2022, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(TianJian @ Mar 16 2022, 03:18 PM)
LOL if want find room  , i help u , not even cost $1000 per month  doh.gif  doh.gif a single middle-size private room only cost around $600-700
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What's private room?
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post Mar 17 2022, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 17 2022, 10:10 AM)
What's private room?
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private room mean u stay alone la for the whole room doh.gif doh.gif

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post Mar 17 2022, 10:12 AM

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Better skip cpf and put into epf. Percentage return so low and i think withdrawal at agr 65
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QUOTE(TianJian @ Mar 17 2022, 10:10 AM)
private room mean u stay alone la for the whole room doh.gif  doh.gif
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Diu....I thought you were referring to a room in a private property (condo, landed) laugh.gif

Never heard of this term. At most people say "rent whole room" mah.


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QUOTE(Roadwarrior1337 @ Mar 17 2022, 10:12 AM)
Better skip cpf and put into epf. Percentage return so low and i think withdrawal at agr 65
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1. If you qualify for CPF, you cannot opt out unless you reject being a PR. If you intend to stay long, it's silly to reject being a PR.

2. With CPF, you'll have employer contribution which is quite a big sum.

3. CPF contribution is tax deductible.
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post Mar 17 2022, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(eternities @ Mar 16 2022, 10:41 AM)
Rental of a room there could easily reach SGD1,000 nowadays
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Woahhh. confused.gif
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post Mar 17 2022, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 17 2022, 10:18 AM)
1. If you qualify for CPF, you cannot opt out unless you reject being a PR. If you intend to stay long, it's silly to reject being a PR.

2. With CPF, you'll have employer contribution which is quite a big sum.

3. CPF contribution is tax deductible.
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u need let him know benefit of CPF also
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post Mar 17 2022, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(TianJian @ Mar 17 2022, 10:32 AM)
u need let him know benefit of CPF also
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No.2, 3 are the benefits mah.
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post Mar 17 2022, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 17 2022, 10:35 AM)
No.2, 3 are the benefits mah.
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interest... can use for other things also , salary also increase one if u got pr

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post Mar 17 2022, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(NeohJing @ Mar 14 2022, 02:39 AM)
Wanna ask if Working in Singapore got EPF or not?
Need to pay tax also?
Now minimum wages for working in Singapore for fresh graduates degree is how much.
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local fresh graduate or expat from malaysia / bangla fresh graduate?
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post Mar 17 2022, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(megadisc @ Mar 14 2022, 09:44 AM)
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1 yes
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3 this is singapore .. so malaysian would be half. rclxm9.gif
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so this tariff for local right, not malaysian
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post Mar 17 2022, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(teslaman @ Mar 17 2022, 10:42 AM)
so this tariff for local right, not malaysian
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if got pr , salary also increase, which a lot
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post Mar 17 2022, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(TianJian @ Mar 17 2022, 10:38 AM)
inetrest... can use for other things also
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The combined interest (even if you max out your SA balance) cannot fight EPF interest, something like 4.xx% nia.

If you're referring to buying shares or property, then yes those are other benefits of CPF.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 17 2022, 10:43 AM)
The combined interest (even if you max out your SA balance) cannot fight EPF interest, something like 4.xx% nia.

If you're referring to buying shares or property, then yes those are other benefits of CPF.
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but month housing loan can deduct from cpf , epf cannot
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post Mar 17 2022, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(TianJian @ Mar 17 2022, 10:45 AM)
but month housing loan can deduct from cpf , epf cannot
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Indeed, this is also why home ownership is high there. But many will be asset rich cash poor because cpf is kosong.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 17 2022, 10:47 AM)
Indeed, this is also why home ownership is high there. But many will be asset rich cash poor because cpf is kosong.
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most of them spend like water when age 55 , that's why kosong , go ak those old folks than u know laugh.gif
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post Mar 17 2022, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(TianJian @ Mar 17 2022, 10:43 AM)
if got pr , salary also increase, which a lot
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make sense, priorty to locals, not expats
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QUOTE(Roadwarrior1337 @ Mar 17 2022, 10:12 AM)
Better skip cpf and put into epf. Percentage return so low and i think withdrawal at agr 65
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if u come from a poor state or ulu place, what's the point of putting epf?

going to Sgp in order to have a better life yet still holding back?

retire back to ulu place so that your next gen need to go thru that poor life again? laugh.gif

Sgp is the easiest way out of msia, ego wont put food on your table.



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QUOTE(teslaman @ Mar 17 2022, 11:26 AM)
make sense, priorty to locals, not expats
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pr also consider local ald , just that u consider second citizen, although not much increase compare EP , but its a huge salary increase if u r S-Pass

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post Mar 17 2022, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ Mar 17 2022, 11:37 AM)
if u come from a poor state or ulu place, what's the point of putting epf?

going to Sgp in order to have a better life yet still holding back?

retire back to ulu place so that your next gen need to go thru that poor life again?  laugh.gif

Sgp is the easiest way out of msia, ego wont put food on your table.
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I know of quite a few Malaysians (PR) who still harbour the thought of returning to Malaysia even though they are past 50 years old and their kids are born and bred there. They tell me, "nvm, I retire in Msia while the kids have their own lives in Singapore". As if things were so simple.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 17 2022, 10:10 AM)
What's private room?
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Basically u stay in the spare room of a family who own a HDB

Got ppl to chat with after working hours, can be useful and help them too


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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 17 2022, 12:08 PM)
I know of quite a few Malaysians (PR) who still harbour the thought of returning to Malaysia even though they are past 50 years old and their kids are born and bred there. They tell me, "nvm, I retire in Msia while the kids have their own lives in Singapore". As if things were so simple.
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Why, what makes it difficult?

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QUOTE(eternities @ Mar 16 2022, 10:41 AM)
Rental of a room there could easily reach SGD1,000 nowadays
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In KL for a room at an okok condo also need RM 700-800. So it's almost the same lah, rental in KL and SG.

If in KL don't need pay rent then dif lah.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 17 2022, 12:08 PM)
I know of quite a few Malaysians (PR) who still harbour the thought of returning to Malaysia even though they are past 50 years old and their kids are born and bred there. They tell me, "nvm, I retire in Msia while the kids have their own lives in Singapore". As if things were so simple.
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Retires back to msia 2yrs then conlan7firmed back to sg after that lol

Sg is crowded, cant deny that but it gives u access to everything that u need.

Once back to msia, safety already become an issue lol
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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ Mar 17 2022, 02:28 PM)
Retires back to msia 2yrs then conlan7firmed back to sg after that lol

Sg is crowded, cant deny that but it gives u access to everything that u need.

Once back to msia, safety already become an issue lol
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I have a few friends that sembang kencang until today still in Sg tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ Mar 17 2022, 02:28 PM)
Retires back to msia 2yrs then conlan7firmed back to sg after that lol

Sg is crowded, cant deny that but it gives u access to everything that u need.

Once back to msia, safety already become an issue lol
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I too know at least 2 person who did this. Bought house and cars upon returning, then last2 decided to pack up and go again. I don't think they will ever try to return again.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 17 2022, 12:08 PM)
I know of quite a few Malaysians (PR) who still harbour the thought of returning to Malaysia even though they are past 50 years old and their kids are born and bred there. They tell me, "nvm, I retire in Msia while the kids have their own lives in Singapore". As if things were so simple.
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Yup. About half of MY PRs that I know, in their 40s and 50s have converted to SG citizenship while the other half still have their MY citizenship.

I came to SG in 1986 and still have MY citizenship (although likely converting soon)...

Anyway, I am landlord in SG. so let me share on rentals.

if HDB woodlands:
common room is 650-700 for single occupancy and 900 for double occupancy.

MBR with attached toilet will be 1.2k for double occupancy

if HDB AMK:
common room is 750 for single occupancy and 1100 for double occupancy

MBR with attached toilet will be 1.3/1.4k for double occupancy
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post Mar 17 2022, 02:53 PM

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Need to pay tax, no need cpf if not pr, minimum salary usually 2.5 to 3k.similar to what is in malaysia, because we are brothers.

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QUOTE(kelvinfixx @ Mar 17 2022, 02:53 PM)
Need to pay tax, no need cpf if not pr, minimum salary usually 2.5 to 3k.similar to what is in malaysia, because we are brothers.
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not really true.
MY fresh uni grads are paid at the SG diploma rates ie 2.5k or so.
SG fresh uni grads are 3.5k - 5k
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post Mar 17 2022, 04:16 PM

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you can always self contribute your epf la .
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QUOTE(iaminwoodlands @ Mar 17 2022, 04:01 PM)
not really true.
MY fresh uni grads are paid at the SG diploma rates ie 2.5k or so.
SG fresh uni grads are 3.5k - 5k
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Depends on company and industry, not all fresh uni grads are 3.5k to 5k.
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post Apr 9 2022, 02:11 AM

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Their salary so high, if bring back here x 3.
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QUOTE(NeohJing @ Apr 9 2022, 02:11 AM)
Their salary so high, if bring back here x 3.
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post Apr 20 2022, 03:06 AM

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Heard that working in SG, the CPF self contribution is 20%, and government give 17%.
Is that true?
Just want to know the CPF can take out or not?


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post Apr 20 2022, 03:09 AM

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QUOTE(teslaman @ Mar 17 2022, 10:42 AM)
so this tariff for local right, not malaysian
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Would like to know the tax rate if Malaysia working in SG. How much salary per month only need to pay tax?

Then, if bring back the money to Malaysia, need to pay lhdn tax lagi ah?
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QUOTE(eternities @ Mar 16 2022, 10:41 AM)
Rental of a room there could easily reach SGD1,000 nowadays
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single room in sg now can cost around 600 to 2k depending on ur affordability

of cuz 600 is HDB, 1k above usually condo
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QUOTE(NeohJing @ Apr 20 2022, 03:09 AM)
Would like to know the tax rate if Malaysia working in SG. How much salary per month only need to pay tax?

Then, if bring back the money to Malaysia, need to pay lhdn tax lagi ah?
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where you domicile?
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post Apr 20 2022, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(NeohJing @ Apr 20 2022, 03:06 AM)
Heard that working in SG, the CPF self contribution is 20%, and government give 17%.
Is that true?
Just want to know the CPF can take out or not?
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That's contributed by the employer, not gomen.
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QUOTE(NeohJing @ Apr 20 2022, 03:09 AM)
Would like to know the tax rate if Malaysia working in SG. How much salary per month only need to pay tax?

Then, if bring back the money to Malaysia, need to pay lhdn tax lagi ah?
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CPF only for PR status , if u working under Work Permit , S-Pass or Employment Pass , no need contribute CPF
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QUOTE(eternities @ Mar 16 2022, 10:41 AM)
Rental of a room there could easily reach SGD1,000 nowadays
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And the worst thing here is only a room not whole unit

 

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