So I am currently in the market for a 150cc scooter and am currently eyeing the Yamaha Nmax V2, mainly for the looks and ergonomics. But the thing about it is that it doesn't hav ABS, which is confusing, considering that the NVX V2 comes with ABS option. And the latter also comes with Y-Connect, which is also a plus.

So I would like to know what other options is available in the market for a 150cc scooters other than these 2 or the Honda PCX and the Honda 150 Adv? Pricing below rm14k (I'm in Borneo).

Preferably something that comes with ABS and has a large underseat storage that could fit a full size helmet. I'm gonna be mainly do city rides, with occasional long tours (twisty mountain roads with uneven pavement) so a plush seat + good suspension setup is a huge plus.

Thanks!

From your list, ADV150 tick most of the boxes...but not sure how it fares for long tours....maybe pcx owner can share their exp a bit (same engine)

Fastest out of Dealer?
NMAX

Safest?
ADV150
WMoto150

In Between? (Front ABS)
Vespa Primavera/Sprint S 150
NVX155

PCX does not have ABS only CBS (Combine Brake System)

I rarely see PCX otr, only reviews online from our brothers on the other side of the ocean. For ADV150, I reckoned it would be great for long tours, but I did see on fb that some owners said that the bike doesn't really do the adventure as well as it was marketed. And the price and availability is something that push me away a bit.

Oh right, WMoto. I've seen the bike a few times now but haven't really got the chance to check it out. How's the parts availability and customer support? And how's the performance?

The ADV is probably just for looks and riding on the hype of the ADV750 which is truly capable off road. The 150 whereas, is probably more of an urban commuter.

My vote goes for nvx. Adv is next but I heard got body shake case. Join their fb group. And top speed of adv is low also.

Slower acceleration than the NVX. My group has those 2 models and they did a comparison. Not super slow...just more relaxed

The Honda's will last forever. The ADV150 looks nice (if you can stomach the premium pricing dealers are charging for the ADV due to demand), but its not something I would go for, the "off-road" aesthetics are pretentious at most, its not like you would go anywhere far from the occasional gravel road with those small tyres. Its a sacrifice in weight and seat height that I think would be better served with the more "uncle" PCX. Btw, is the PCX160 here yet?

What i do want to see Honda do is actually bring in, is the SH150, a scoot with 17" wheels.


That said, But Im partial to the NVX ABS, mainly due to the more exciting power delivery. (i have one in Vietnam, where hondas are priced to something ridiculous). However if you have a longer commute or need more weather protection, you might want to look for a scoot with a more substantial fairing and windshield. Speeds hardly go more than 60 in vietnam, so a windshield is pointless.


Please do yourself a favour and get a bike with at least front ABS.

Wow, the SH150i 2022 edition looks really good! Would be good if it came in. Those 17" wheels would definitely make it a safer ride.

This post has been edited by lowpro: Mar 8 2022, 10:13 AM

Unfortunately the SH is priced at a different rung, meant to compete with the Vespa Primavera. But the 17 wheels are a godsend. Its a good scoot that has been in the vietnam market for a long time. Shares it chassis with the bigger SH300, , which is great because in 300 guise, its actually smaller and more compact than the maxi 250/300 class scoots we have here.

if honda brings in the SH150/300, I would get one to replace my Dominar 400 commuter.


and btw, the NVX and PCX uses a standard sized 14/14 wheel. The ADV uses a 14F/13R wheel, perhaps a challenge to find replacement tyres as a set

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Mar 8 2022, 10:29 AM

Ya...it's just reskin version of PCX....and agree with the price...but since it got ABS, maybe suite with your requirement.

for 150cc scoot, I would personally choose Nmax due to relaxed seating position, competitive price and better performance than ADV.

Resale Value ADV sure win liao...

WMoto.. with Robert from iMoto haha..

This seriously looks on the road...not sure how it pulls though as on paper, the power isn't much compared to the nmax

Orait. Tq 4 da info . The info I shared is from my friend. He also interested to buy scooter. So he told me what he knows . Adv seems good then. Not sure if the body shake is some lemon unit or what. Not interested to join the fb group just to confirm this

for 150cc scooter, u can't expect much.
for me to choose.
Brand : reliability, backup. ease of mind.
prices : dont be to far away from other brand.
Purpose: taman riding with ease of mind, u can start n ride whenever u want.

just check, honda ADV rrp is 11k++ but now 12k++.
wmoto adv rrp is almost 9k but now u can get it at rm 8k++ n a few used bike in the market.

u can't go wrong with honda n yamaha or suzuki (if there still in the market).

I'd prefer Vespa over any scoot.
Body made of besi, comes with ABS, Immobiliser.
New enhanced sliding suspension (ESS) improves handling and rider comfort

A very pleasurable and smooth scoot to ride daily to work for 3 yrs now. (My own experience)

Vespa Sprint - How it's made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPQXDJKZ8es

Nmax all motor shop say no stock, long Q waiting list, easily more than 3 month waiting

either ADV or NMAX.

NMAX is way comfier and bigger fuel capacity than NVX.
ADV is more on sport touring look. handling wise is gooding as well.

if get either ADV or NMAX. u can opt on the rear storage for your helmets.


im using NVX with ABS. but i disable the ABS as i switch to nissin samurai brakes and bigger rotor for better braking.
plus, if u pick NVX. first thing u need to do is, change the front fork spring.

I noticed a lot of people mention about mods required on Yamaha bikes to make it better even when fresh out from shop, but not Honda bikes.

Is Yamaha really that bad, new out of shop or it's just expectation of riders on Yamaha bikes?

It's not

People just like to rice the fuck out of Yamahas like Americans ricing Honda Civics

Get je adv 150cc, road tax remain RM 2, or get nvx change to all terrain tyre , can go off road.

I'm currently using ego gear, no issue go off road, but balik wash a bit la ya.....plan to change the tyre to all terrain like adv

For me...I'll go for adv150

Numbawan Motorcycle in the World is Honda.
Followed by Bajaj or Hero i cant remember.

Yamaha only Numbawan in MY.



No doubt Yamaha aesthetic dem gooding.
but long term performance and maintenance is Hondua...

adv.

no..both are equally horrible.

The wing brand got rattling issue at cover area, tensioner issue, coil issue, rear signal broke...etc.

Maybe numbawan for CBU unit.


else, it's suzuki. but the aesthetic not so good

this one is based on world sales ma.

but i seconded you, hands down to suzuki engines for motorcycle.
theyre dem goooding. heavy duty and easy to maintain/modify

as for hondua and yangmaha.
i think its because they want people to spend more to service/buy parts?

idk.

suzuki hardly got scooter on the market now le.....for new 1 la

mmg tarak bro.
suzuki close shop de in Malaysia.
unless u really wana use VS125, convert engine to 150 lor. hahaha


CBU tourer ony haf.

but for scooter segment.
KYMCO is numbawan

But Suzuki just recently returned to Malaysia and launched 3 new models already.

all with 150cc oil cooled engines

wmoto je bro. dual channel abs, safer. many parts shared (compatible) with Honda vario & pcx (u can Google the YouTube reviews).

like that buy modenas scooter ke

for modenas, i ony buy the Elegan. as its 100% rebadge KYMCO downtown. haha

Or BMW scooter

They are also Kymco underneath 😬

mahal bang, rather get aprilia sr gt200

And.... None of them are scooters.

The new Raider looks fun af though

I heard they are planning to launch address Fi...but it is just a rumour for the time being...

semestinya nvxxxxx

nmax tu ada problem ckit

bad road conditions and long journey.... ADV150 wins hands down since it has longer suspension travel..

I am riding Honda PCX150 year 2019 (now discontinued).

You should consider Modenas Elegan 250 ABS (RM15,xxx). It is a rebadged of a Kymco and Kymco makes scooters for BMW and Kawasaki (the J300).

Elegan can get so cheaply meh?
I asked around, no stock, harga pun yahudi

Puncak Alam Motorworld (seen on Modenas Elegan 250 owner group's Facebook)

RM15,200
I called just now, they have ready stock for Blue and Black colour

I've heard that the wmoto scooters es250i or quite possibly the soon to be launched xdv250i is kambing aka not rain friendly. A bit sad since looking forward for an affordable lean city scooter with ample displacement.

If thread owner's requires lots of underseat storage, WMOTO may not be the best options.

Touch wood, so far I left my motor under the rain for the past 1-2months nothing happen yet and hope nothing happen. I think there is no other option beside es250 for 250cc with compact size to use in heavy traffic.


Yes, the underseat storage can't even fit a normal helmet it only able to fit turtle type. Normally I keep complete set raincoat, lunch box bag, jacket is already 90% full ... So I need to carry my normal size helmet to my office desk every day...

But this thing is fast, compact & light weight so I just tolerate all those cons...

The new WMoto XDV 250i said to be able to store full-face helmet underseat due to smaller 13.5L fuel tank.

But not sure how this 168kg 'urban adventure' scooter fits city ride.

Expected to launch in October though.

Boss, after 6 months can you give a quick review on the bike? Including service and parts etc. Quite interested in it as an alternate bike.

people complain when using motor during rain, got water splash inside, water hit some components. Not just left under rain.

U may tag me after 6months, I did a service on 400km at mforce HQ
engine oil 1.3L (manufacturer recommended PJ1 scooter RM42/L)
Gear oil 250ml (PJ1 RM12/100ml)
Btw my monthly mileage is around 600km only, after 6months of usage I think only need to change engine oil & gear oil only



I did riding it during rain few times around <10km to work.

that one iinm is Jet X. issue with wiring. prolly not a good one was used...

ES so far people complaint about rough/vibration during idling..

any luck finding suitable basket/raga for this scooter?

150 scooter, none of then have underseat storage big enough to fit a proper full face. Even the ADV150 that boast large storage in it's class, the storage cannot fit my Shoei open face. End up having to install a tail box.

250 scooter like Forza and XMax can fit my Shoei with the seat just barely touching the top of the helmet when seat is shut. Full face Shoei will be super tight fit.

Shoei has larger shell than most other helmet.

Rode the ES250i with iBikers team while they did the test earlier.. not bad for NMAX size 250cc scooter.. and put Malossi kits inside that bike going to chase RXZ hahaha..

That's the character of Piaggio designed engine..

All Vespa has that.. also Recently just did test ride the SR GT Aprilia, also Vibrates while idling, maybe due to that Italians put stop start feature during idling.

Ahh..I see..make sense now to put start-stop feature.

if big storage is what TS is looking for then unfortunately, only the Maxi scooters will have it. The Forza has an absolutely HUGE storage. The 150 are usually very tight, especially those with the fuel tank is under the seat.

You could look at the PCX150 if you want bigger underseat storage. Regardless, scooter storage is vast compared to our big bikes....


Seriously, you can't go wrong with the PCX as long as that "uncle" look suits your style. You could very easily fit a big aftermarket windshield and good weather protection is a big plus for faster rides or bad weather. New updated PCX160 is coming soon, which will undoubtedly also come with the much important ABS this time around.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Sep 7 2022, 11:16 AM

Am considering this for my daily ride to work. To and fro would be around 120km.

Do you remember anything good or bad about this scooter?

Thanks

Good,

1. More powerful than average 150cc class scooter. Especially on acceleration.
2. Compact size.
3. Awesome brakes both front and rear.
4. Bright headlight and tail light.
5. Strong support from the Distributorship (Motoplex)
6. Pirelli dual purpose tires for scooter (good grip) as standard.

Bad,

1. Bad rear suspension, too soft even at the hardest level (don't try to pillion anyone with more than 50kg of weight at the back)
2. EXPENSIVE for a 170cc scooter
3. Vibration during idle, but they have stop start engine system.
4. You can get a faster, or bigger scooter with less money, it just minus the Continental branding.
5. Slight expensive on maintenance compare to the Asian counterparts.

My advice, if 120km I assume you need to go through some Highway? then with the 20k take a 250cc scooter, either XMAX, or those WMoto/Modenas models.

Thanks for the heads-up. Appreciate it very much.

I love that Aprilia has the steel braided brake hose, Nissin brakes and Showa absorbers as standard. The one that I tested has Michelin Anakee specially made for the SR GT.

First choice would be XMAX 300/250 SP Edition that comes with Ohlins as standard at the back. If only HLYM bring those beauties in.

They did come with Racing Boy parts, especially the rear absorber, make the SR GT firmer but harsher on the Malaysia road.

Thanks for the info.

Just received info that HLYM will be bringing in the XMAX SP Edition. The 250 version will be in Malaysia next year. Exact date/month however still not available.