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> michealelsie's BULK refund thread, 100% complete =)

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post Sep 23 2007, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(b00n @ Sep 23 2007, 01:24 AM)
A solution suggestion:
Tell your parents about those bad deals and refund the money first.
When you received the stocks from the supplier you could still sell it for a profit. Also, when the supplier refunds you, you still got the money back!
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So you're thinking in your own shoes and not everyone's shoes.

The refund amount is due RM10k+

Wouldn't you mind if you just ask your parents - "Ma, 10k please" or "Ba, 10k please"??

Second thing just to remind. If seller had capital, he wouldn't mind to start a business at here while he can go open his own computer shop. The thing is there's a lot of bulker comes here just to earn side income with their already known supplier(well, some are not maybe??)

Edit :
As cstkl1 suggested, better find out the supplier and get all the details whether those claims are true or not. sweat.gif I know some supplier making a fake bulk and gather those money for his debt and then later on pay back.

This post has been edited by temptation1314: Sep 23 2007, 02:17 AM
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post Sep 23 2007, 02:20 AM

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Hey whichever works for me man... I just wanna rush this situation. Why? Because I know michael sure cannot settle it properly after 5 days. You know why? Because MMU having final exam. That means, so do I.

I dont intend this to affect either one of us, so for both michael and myself, lets settle this ASAP.


*edit*

How you guys planning to track down the supplier? You guys got contacts ka? unsure.gif

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post Sep 23 2007, 02:29 AM

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Well i believe michael <--- sure got contacts with supplier ma.

J-Slade, it's ok to rush, but don't make it bad for both of you. smile.gif I'm sure that michael doesn't want to graduate with a criminal record isn't it?
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Just for u guys wan info:

If i'm not mistaken, michealelsie's "supplier" was hoping for Intel's big sale or promotion coming up soon. This is for those Intel Premier Partners, where, they get special discounted price for certain items. THerefore, during such promo, the E6750 can get USD20-30 discounts per unit for these partners. So, currently as the promo has not materialized, the "Supplier" will not be able to give it at that price.

In my opinion, both "supplier" and michealelsie has got fault. But, a proper solution will be needed soon as it involves a large sum of money.
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Sep 23 2007, 02:29 AM)
Well i believe michael <--- sure got contacts with supplier ma.

J-Slade, it's ok to rush, but don't make it bad for both of you. smile.gif I'm sure that michael doesn't want to graduate with a criminal record isn't it?
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Ya i think even get rush, also need to be good for both side.smile.gif * peace*

Maybe ask seller to contact supplier again and tell the supplier about this situation?~!~ sweat.gif
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post Sep 23 2007, 02:38 AM

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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Sep 23 2007, 02:20 AM)
Hey whichever works for me man... I just wanna rush this situation. Why? Because I know michael sure cannot settle it properly after 5 days. You know why? Because MMU having final exam. That means, so do I.

I dont intend this to affect either one of us, so for both michael and myself, lets settle this ASAP.
*edit*

How you guys planning to track down the supplier? You guys got contacts ka?  unsure.gif
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yes~ i will be having my final exam soon but i wil keep my promise to settle wif my supplier.There is no point by using "having final exam"as my excuse.. i will keep my promise on wat i shud do for buyers..
if you are the only one who need to be refunded, rm 550, i will try to borrow from parents,frens and refund you tomorrow.
but now, the amount is 10k, if i wan to refund to everyone, rm10k i really need time to collect it.
i am really sorry that i do not have much capital to start my business here since i am jus a student who earning my monthly expanses here.
To be fair, i choose to refund to everyone in once after the supplier refund the payment to me.
i really hope that you can understand my situation, give me some time to settle with my supplier and get bak the refund.
i m really sorry that if i were not ur responsible seller.
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Sep 23 2007, 02:29 AM)
Well i believe michael <--- sure got contacts with supplier ma.

J-Slade, it's ok to rush, but don't make it bad for both of you. smile.gif I'm sure that michael doesn't want to graduate with a criminal record isn't it?
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Chill dude.. I got ntg against michael... I just wanna sort this thing out asap icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(michealelsie @ Sep 23 2007, 02:38 AM)
yes~ i will be having my final exam soon but i wil  keep my promise to settle wif my supplier.There is no point by using "having final exam"as my excuse.. i will keep my promise on wat i shud do for buyers..
if you are the only one who need to be refunded, rm 550, i will try to borrow from parents,frens and refund you tomorrow.
but now, the amount is 10k, if i wan to refund to everyone, rm10k i really need time to collect it.
i am really sorry that i do not have much capital to start my business here since i am jus a student who earning my monthly expanses here.
To be fair, i choose to refund to everyone in once after the supplier refund the payment to me.
i really hope that you can understand my situation, give me some time to settle with my supplier and get bak the refund.
i m really sorry that if i were not ur responsible seller.
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Dude I have a question, what happens if your supplier in the end of the day can't refund to you? Are you going to just come back here and put the blame on him? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Sep 23 2007, 02:42 AM)
Chill dude.. I got ntg against michael... I just wanna sort this thing out asap  icon_rolleyes.gif
Dude I have a question, what happens if your supplier in the end of the day can't refund to you? Are you going to just come back here and put the blame on him?  hmm.gif
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yes~ there is no point to blame on him anymore if i cant get the refund from him..
i wil take action on my supplier to get bak the refund for you guys.
no matter how, i will do everything to get bak the refund.
i nvr think to take all you guys money and run away..
i have left my personal details in this thread.. u can record it down..
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Sep 23 2007, 02:15 AM)
So you're thinking in your own shoes and not everyone's shoes.

The refund amount is due RM10k+

Wouldn't you mind if you just ask your parents - "Ma, 10k please" or "Ba, 10k please"??

Second thing just to remind. If seller had capital, he wouldn't mind to start a business at here while he can go open his own computer shop. The thing is there's a lot of bulker comes here just to earn side income with their already known supplier(well, some are not maybe??)

Edit :
As cstkl1 suggested, better find out the supplier and get all the details whether those claims are true or not. sweat.gif I know some supplier making a fake bulk and gather those money for his debt and then later on pay back.
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Mind you, it's for the benefit of everyone and the responsibility of a seller.
What if the supplier ran away?....than what is the next course of actions?
or for instance, if one is to know that the supplier is cheating...than what?
Report police and wait for the supplier to refund?
The seller is the one dealing with the buyer and not the buyer dealing with the supplier.

You're thinking from the seller's POV and disregard the buyers out there.

My point is still valid because eventually it's still the seller's fault. It's a mistake to admit so when buyer requested for refunds they are entitled it. So seller has to own it and no choice he has to turn to other sources for lending of money.
Even in real business situation you can't brush off by implying that you are doing your best in asking "on-behalf" of the buyer. You still have to pay back first than think of another way to cover your losses.
This is business ethics that should be cultivated since young.

Like I said previously, he did good by following up closely and always update; but that's not enough. Ppl's money are still at stake.
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post Sep 23 2007, 03:48 AM

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Please reveal the name of the supplier. It is really un-ethical to do such things by a supplier. Everybody knows that PC prices fluctuate easily. 2 months time, price can drop dramatically.

No such supplier will do such a thing as it could jeopardize their business. You should have done something already after being delayed for 1 week. 10k is a small amount if this is a genuine supplier of processors.

Give the supplier a deadline before you go report police. Because if you don't, you will be in trouble from your buyers. They could report you to authority as well.

If you do not do so, it only shows you have something to hide. I personally do not believe you because I have dealt with suppliers before. They will not take your money for nothing. It is strictly COD business with suppliers. Except you are probably dealing with stolen procs or blackmarket products.

Whatever it is, you must stop all your business and be given a dispute tag to avoid people to continue trading with you.
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QUOTE(abubin @ Sep 23 2007, 03:48 AM)
Whatever it is, you must stop all your business and be given a dispute tag to avoid people to continue trading with you.
Nahh, for this moment, that's not the main important thing to be done, since he did come here explain and answers all questions afterall.
What's important now is for him to complete the transaction in the given 3 days period. [Or is it 5 days?]

However, i do agree with your point on revealing the supplier's name.
Micheal, this is the best thing you could do for your own sake in this short moment. smile.gif
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michealelsie

since you are girl enuff to push your supplier for a refund, how about you post all your supplier details here so others may be man enuff to push the supplier for you.. while i understand that some items may take longer time to arrive, it makes no sense if money refund takes 5 working days from your supplier..

dont be shy girl.. at least we know that your supplier is the worst supplier ever existed.. shakehead.gif
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yeap , u should reveal the supplier name and contact number as well .. to be fair to all buyer .. no more dragging
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(sigh... the malice in the thread is really high..)

I agree with revealing the supplier's details. From a certain conversation of you and the supplier, I can really see that the supplier is, sorry to day, a real a**hole. I have a real fear of him running away with all the money right now, and I would suggest that you reveal his details here first, in case this happens.

This is not the time to be mudslinging around, most important now is that we are able to get back our hard-earned money.
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QUOTE(kurogane @ Sep 23 2007, 01:39 PM)
(sigh... the malice in the thread is really high..)

I agree with revealing the supplier's details. From a certain conversation of you and the supplier, I can really see that the supplier is, sorry to day, a real a**hole. I have a real fear of him running away with all the money right now, and I would suggest that you reveal his details here first, in case this happens.

This is not the time to be mudslinging around, most important now is that we are able to get back our hard-earned money.
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QUOTE(baok @ Sep 23 2007, 12:36 PM)
michealelsie

since you are girl enuff to push your supplier for a refund, how about you post all your supplier details here so others may be man enuff to push the supplier for you.. while i understand that some items may take longer time to arrive, it makes no sense if money refund takes 5 working days from your supplier..

dont be shy girl.. at least we know that your supplier is the worst supplier ever existed.. shakehead.gif
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why are u refering to michealelsie as a girl??? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ Sep 23 2007, 05:16 PM)
why are u refering to michealelsie as a girl??? tongue.gif
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He's obviously being sarcastically rude there.
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QUOTE(kurogane @ Sep 23 2007, 05:18 PM)
He's obviously being sarcastically rude there.
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This kinda thing also need to explain sweat.gif
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it really keeps the buyer worried... 10k is not 10 ringgit..just reveal the supplier's identity... however, what i fear is that the supplier maybe the type where when everyone bugs him, he will make it even slower...just so to pay back for exposing his identity in the forum...
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i am wondering how ur supplier going to refund u?
by cash? if by cash, i think u wont choose it right?
most probably is by cheque or online banking,

so, the best solution to force the supplier to refund on time,
u have to go down along to KL,
take a cheque worth RM10k++ from ur supplier with stated date 5 days later,
then after 5 days, u push the cheque into ur account,

if it cannot transact, push it another time to make it "pop" cheque,
like that ur supplier account will be black listed...
i think tis is the only way to force them to refund unless u just getting empty promiss...


This post has been edited by cschun86: Sep 23 2007, 10:45 PM

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